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Oerdin
12-05-2009, 03:50:04
It sounds fucking retarded. I remember making fun of my mother and grandfather for putting a "r" sound where is doesn't belong; for example "wash" would be pronounced "warsh" but there are also worrying number of British people who also insert "r"s where they do not belong calling "Obama" "Obarma" WTF?

See this video from the BBC for more details.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8044735.stm

mr_B
12-05-2009, 04:47:10
the rrrrrrrr pirates aaaaaarrrrhh

fp
12-05-2009, 06:29:45
yah i heard that in different parts of the world there are people who talk differently to me some of them even use totally weird words that don't mean shit to me i mean what the fuck is up with that rolfmao.

Funko
12-05-2009, 08:08:44
what the fuck is up with the french saying we when they mean yes?!

Oerdin
12-05-2009, 09:00:33
Originally posted by fp
yah i heard that in different parts of the world there are people who talk differently to me some of them even use totally weird words that don't mean shit to me i mean what the fuck is up with that rolfmao.

There is talking with a different accent and then there is completely mispronouncing the word. Did you hear the BBC spokesman say "Obarma"? You'd figure he could at least get the President's name right.

Funko
12-05-2009, 09:04:08
According to BBC pronunciation unit that is correct and you are wrong Oerdin.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/magazinemonitor/2007/01/how_to_say_barack_obama.shtml

This week's pronunciation is Barack Obama, who seems certain to run for the U.S. Presidency in 2008. His name should be pronounced buh-RAAK oh-BAA-muh. When he first came to prominence, there was some disagreement about his first name, which was also sometimes pronounced buh-RACK or even BARR-uhk, but our recommendation is based on the pronunciation he uses himself - he can be heard saying his own first name here.

Oerdin
12-05-2009, 09:05:21
He clearly says "O-Bar-ma" instead of "O-bomb-a".

Funko
12-05-2009, 09:08:05
Yes, that's what the pronunciation guidelines say he should have said. So the answer to "why does he say it like that?" is "because that's the BBC pronunciation guideline".

The follow up "Why is that the pronunciation guideline?" is "because that's how Oh-baa-ma himself says it".

but that's all in my previous post.

Funko
12-05-2009, 09:10:36
eg here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q89grM9cPE

That video you linked to is now some American guy talking.

Funko
12-05-2009, 09:11:46
o-bomb-a is totally wrong, unless you're Fox news trying to imply he's Hussein A-bomb-a or something.

Oerdin
12-05-2009, 09:15:59
Well, it sure as hell isn't Obarma.

Funko
12-05-2009, 09:16:58
I didn't see the video but that's very close to how he says it himself in his inauguration, that's what I'm going with and it's much closer to Obarma than O-bomb-a

Funko
12-05-2009, 09:17:34
Mind you, unless you say bomb like baamb, which being American is possible!

alsieboo
12-05-2009, 09:49:35
Thrilling.

Funko
12-05-2009, 09:54:53
do you mean was was?

alsieboo
12-05-2009, 10:17:05
I think I do, but I'm not sure if I want to succumb just yet..

Tizzy
12-05-2009, 10:23:41
It's inevitable really

MDA
12-05-2009, 11:10:44
My grandparents have lived just south of Pittsburgh for most of their lives - they've got words like warsh, boosch, chimley (chimney).

I know, was was.

MoSe
12-05-2009, 11:13:07
Originally posted by Oerdin
Did you hear the BBC spokesman say "Obarma"?

Oh, Barman!

MoSe
12-05-2009, 11:14:46
Originally posted by Oerdin
putting a "r" sound where is doesn't belong; for example


HARDMAN

AnswerBot
12-05-2009, 11:35:43
It's quite simple really. :) I will let Wikipedier explain:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linking_and_intrusive_R

And more:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhotic_and_non-rhotic_accents

MoSe
12-05-2009, 11:48:59
AnsaBot?

alsieboo
12-05-2009, 12:02:42
Originally posted by Tizzy
It's inevitable really

:nervous:

MDA
12-05-2009, 12:16:00
Originally posted by Funko
Mind you, unless you say bomb like baamb, which being American is possible!

I used to go out of state for summer camp and the girl at the snack shop sold "bomb pops" (red white and blue popsicles). She used to laugh at the way we said "bomb" and make us repeat it.

Funko
12-05-2009, 12:24:41
I bet she went and started threads on multiple forums asking why you said it wrong!

alsieboo
12-05-2009, 12:29:40
I think I remember seeing one actually

MDA
12-05-2009, 12:45:33
Originally posted by Funko
I bet she went and started threads on multiple forums asking why you said it wrong!

Not in the early eighties, she didn't. :lol:

Funko
12-05-2009, 12:55:34
I've got another good example for Oerdin.

We pronounce his name

Oe-ARSEHOLE.

alsieboo
12-05-2009, 13:02:52
:lol:

Lurker
12-05-2009, 13:10:12
Originally posted by Funko
I bet she went and started threads on multiple forums asking why you said it wrong!

I didn't believe this so I looked. Sorry I doubted you Funko.

wat wat

Greg W
12-05-2009, 13:25:44
Personally, other than possibly a slightly elongated "a" in the first case, I don't see the difference in pronunciation between:
Oh-baa-ma (the proper way apparently)
and
Obarma

:confused:

Oh, and shouldn't it be Oh-:funko:-ma?

MDA
12-05-2009, 13:41:56
Ala-:funko:-ma?

Japher
12-05-2009, 13:42:06
You get "warsh" a lot when they mean "wash"... It's lazy speech, that what it is. And that really ticks me off. What really gets me is when people end a sentence with "at", i.e "where did you get that at?" WTF!@ If you aren't going to be grammatically correct because you are lazy then why add words?! The sentence would be correct if you would just stop talking sooner!

There other ones that bug me are the teenagers who always seem to have to add the word "like" like every other word. Like, can you just, like, stop it!

Or people who add an S to the name of a store when not using it in a possessive form. "Where did you get that at?" them; "Walmarts. Do you shop at Walmarts." Me; "You no it's called Walmart... at."

MDA
12-05-2009, 13:44:48
Small town I lived in for a couple of years:

People there had a habit of adding an entire useless phrase at the end of any sentence describing what someone else did, so they did.

Greg W
12-05-2009, 13:46:13
Originally posted by MDA
Ala-:funko:-ma? Don't over-:brwncard:-lyse things. :p

Greg W
12-05-2009, 13:47:47
Oh, and what's with this whole "like" thing? It's like so like annoying to like hear like added like everywhere in like kids like speech. Like.

Funko
12-05-2009, 13:49:03
It's just like something old people get like annoyed at.

MDA
12-05-2009, 13:52:37
I think it was, um, the 80's replacement for, um, "um".

mr_B
12-05-2009, 14:27:16
Originally posted by Funko
I've got another good example for Oerdin.

We pronounce his name

Oe-ARSEHOLE. in dutch we call him Oerdom

MoSe
12-05-2009, 14:42:23
he got in a row with his O-ars

Dyl Ulenspiegel
12-05-2009, 15:14:58
Öd-DIN in german.

The industrial norm for "Ödheit" (excruciating boredom)

Dyl Ulenspiegel
12-05-2009, 15:15:44
Of course, some retard put in an "r".

MoSe
12-05-2009, 15:32:32
do you have an Ödometer?

Dyl Ulenspiegel
12-05-2009, 15:34:16
Like ördön von horvath?

Lazarus and the Gimp
12-05-2009, 16:56:43
Originally posted by Greg W
Oh, and what's with this whole "like" thing? It's like so like annoying to like hear like added like everywhere in like kids like speech. Like.


To be understood in Ireland, simply replace every "like" with "fucking".

Greg W
13-05-2009, 01:37:11
That's alright, their accent is so cool they could get away with it. :beer:

Oerdin
13-05-2009, 07:21:10
Originally posted by Funko
I've got another good example for Oerdin.

We pronounce his name

Oe-ARSEHOLE.

I always knew you people were bad at pronunciation.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
13-05-2009, 07:33:53
Pronunciamento!

Funko
13-05-2009, 07:48:19
Harry Potter?

Dyl Ulenspiegel
13-05-2009, 10:30:20
Potty Harrer!

King_Ghidra
13-05-2009, 12:15:49
Parry Hotter

MoSe
13-05-2009, 12:22:24
OK, but why parry?

alsieboo
13-05-2009, 12:23:14
Tarry no longer

MoSe
13-05-2009, 12:40:16
Tarry Hopper?