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Funko
06-04-2009, 10:24:59
I think we can straighten him out with some laser surgery.

MoSe
06-04-2009, 10:30:13
I was thinking: "I hope someone starts a mosque copycat with my name. Maybe funko"

Here!

PROOF OF TELEPATHY! - FACT

MDA
06-04-2009, 10:49:43
did the earthquakes shake him out of alignment?

looked like it did a fair amount of damage, they said 20 dead and plenty missing this morning :(

MoSe
06-04-2009, 11:10:14
I read 27 victims, but I hadn't heard about it till I got at work and browsed the web this morning

No relatives nor acquaintances for me in the region

UPDATE:
the count increased to 50

this is the english version of the major italian newspaper
http://www.corriere.it/english/
but the recent articles are all still in italian (earthquake=terremoto)

Spooky:
a quake expert claims you can have acceptable predictions by monitoring Radon levels
He had announced a big one was near, a week ago.
Everybody's nerve were already bare since a long season of small tremors in the area.
The "italian FEMA" (= Protezione Civile) director had him sued for "false alarm" ("you CAN'T predict quakes" they scolded him).
That new made headlines 3 days later, on April Fool's day...

Now the scientist could get in jail all the same, despite his prediciton turned out to be true.

http://www.corriere.it/cronache/09_aprile_06/previsioni_terremoto_giuliani_aac2c71e-2273-11de-9ce1-00144f02aabc.shtml

MoSe
06-04-2009, 11:21:01
a few international updates

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7985441.stm
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hAMIlfFlM82fcHJISNO82CgxMgbw
http://www.kyivpost.com/world/39010
http://uk.reuters.com/article/oilRpt/idUKL659854420090406
http://www.worldbulletin.net/news_detail.php?id=39566

MoSe
06-04-2009, 11:23:00
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/06/italy-earthquake-abruzzo

MoSe
06-04-2009, 11:33:49
hey, didn't want to kill this finest copycat
:D

protein
06-04-2009, 11:53:54
shit, that looks like a bad one.

is it sad for me to worry about the ancient buildings and churches?

MoSe
06-04-2009, 11:57:56
not at all

people are easier to replace
:callous:

MoSe
06-04-2009, 11:58:55
maybe, using laser alignment, they could have indeed detected the plates moving...

Sir Penguin
07-04-2009, 00:04:49
Neutral-evil.

SP

Greg W
07-04-2009, 01:12:39
Beaten to the punch. :(Originally posted by MDA
did the earthquakes shake him out of alignment?Was about to say: so he's no longer Chaotic Good?

MoSe
07-04-2009, 06:41:02
lol

Funko
07-04-2009, 08:18:22
Looking worse this morning than it did yesterday.

King_Ghidra
07-04-2009, 08:49:11
like one of mr g's one-night stands

MoSe
07-04-2009, 09:05:56
according to the most recent disaggregate data available online:

http://www.iss.it/site/mortalita/Scripts/SelCause.asp

in Italy in 2002 there had been 550k deaths, almost 1% of the population

235k thereof had cardiocirculatory causes
160k tumors
35k respiratory
26k ACCIDENTS (including traumas, burns, toxic poisoning...)
25k digestive system
17.5k diabetes
...
889 AIDS
383 overdose

I guess that "natural causes" due to age fall anyway under the actual contingent failure that ended life, they must be mostly cardiocirculatory or respiratory

we agree that not all illnesses can be blamed upon your life misbehavior, nor all accidents are conversely immune from the stupidity of the victim.

Anyway, I figure that the number of people meeting a premature death as innocent and unpredictable victims rank in the thousands every year, and we usually don't give nary a thought to them.

A natural catastrophe brings attention, moves emotions and grief,
but every year tenfold if not hundredfold persons die in a similar tragic way, for external causes the could not foresee or avoid, only not all together at the same time.
(IIRC recently in a wave of bad weather and storms, a tree fell on a car killing the driver)

I'm not sure what I wanted my point to be, maybe only to put the disgrace in a wider perspective and bigger picture.

:(

PS:
possibly, in part it was to address KG's perplexity (and I presume criticism) about my other thread
http://www.counterglow.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=981654#post981654

Funko
07-04-2009, 09:31:56
Earthquakes look good on TV. 25K digestive tract deaths probably don't. (except for some special interest groups :brwncard: )

King_Ghidra
07-04-2009, 10:43:28
Either way, that's a strange kind of relativism.

Should the war in afghanistan come off the front pages because more people die of cancer?

there are c. 100000 homeless in the earthquake area. it's a national emergency. even regardless of the death toll i find it a little strange you don't see the significance of the event and have a 'normal' moderately upset reaction to it (never mind going to lengths to prove it's not a big deal)

MOBIUS
07-04-2009, 10:46:47
Too far away etc? Wrong type of Italians? How would we feel if Manchester got hit by a similar earthquake?

Funko
07-04-2009, 10:51:53
Very surprised.

MOBIUS
07-04-2009, 10:54:56
Well, apart from the fact that it would be virtually impossible in that part of the world...

Funko
07-04-2009, 11:05:51
I think it'd be no great shakes.

MoSe
07-04-2009, 11:08:30
Originally posted by King_Ghidra
there are c. 100000 homeless in the earthquake area. it's a national emergency. even regardless of the death toll i find it a little strange you don't see the significance of the event and have a 'normal' moderately upset reaction to it (never mind going to lengths to prove it's not a big deal) [/B]

I totally agree, the real disgrace is the destruction, especially considering how in Italy the reconstruction will take ages, and will be hugely speculated upon by corruption.
And the distress of the survivors.

I *am* moderately upset by the fatalities count, be it 50, 100, 150 or 200.
That's part of life and nature, it happens.
Sad for them, but I don't feel I ought to be particularly sober and composed than any other day, and refrain from making jokes as usual.
Don't wanna prove anything, that's just how I feel, can't help it.


PS: please don't crucifix me, but the same way I was *much more* mindstruck by the destruction of the Twin Towers themselves, the meaning of the act, the missing of a symbol of modern culture. More than the count of the victims being 5000 rather than 3000.
I understand how the nation suffered and mourned for their victims, but it didn't touch me personally the same way

Does that make you think that I'm sick and there must be something wrong with me?
I won't object to that.

MoSe
07-04-2009, 11:10:05
Originally posted by Funko
I think it'd be no great shakes.

the only great shakes you had it's pears

Funko
07-04-2009, 11:13:42
But the Twin Towers attack was one of the most spectacular and significant news events of the last 20 years and sparked 2 wars.

Earthquakes are relatively common, of course this isn't as big a mindfuck as that.

MDA
07-04-2009, 11:13:58
I wonder if SciFi would be interested in a script about an earthquake in Manchester caused by irresponsible research. Maybe testing one of those mechanical resonance thingamabobs like Tesla made resonates and tears the Earth's crust, threatening not only Manchester, but all of Great Britain.

They could reuse some cheap CGI effects from all their other movies with the same plot and save even more money. All we need is a Baldwin to act in it.

MoSe
07-04-2009, 11:28:14
Originally posted by Funko
But the Twin Towers attack was one of the most spectacular and significant news events of the last 20 years and sparked 2 wars.

Earthquakes are relatively common, of course this isn't as big a mindfuck as that.

Just in case I falied to make my point more clearly, I was not comparing 9/11 with the quake.

I was comparing my reaction to 9/11 general significance, with my mild worry for 9/11 victims.

Similarly, I am saddened and worried by the destruction and the state of emergency caused by the quake in our nation in this moment of international economic crisis (and by the "carte blanche" attitude the right-wing government earned because of it from all the oppositions), although from recent quake experiences in other parts of Italy I know for sure the tangible impact on my life will be practically zero.
But I'm only barely upset by the quake victims count.

protein
07-04-2009, 11:45:45
Originally posted by MoSe
PS: please don't crucifix me

http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/images/the-exorcist.jpg

The Mad Monk
08-04-2009, 15:13:18
No Mose, I think you have it about right.

Funko
08-04-2009, 15:31:48
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/08/italy-earthquake-berlusconi

Berlusconi: Italy earthquake victims should view experience as camping weekend

Classy.

Lurker
08-04-2009, 15:36:55
:lol: He couldn't possibly have said that.

Funko
08-04-2009, 15:44:42
Berlusconi told the reporter for the N-TV channel that the homeless quake victims "lacked nothing".

"They have medicaments. They have hot food. They have shelter for the night," he said.

"Of course, their current lodgings are a bit temporary. But they should see it like a weekend of camping."

Has GWB been giving him tips?

Greg W
08-04-2009, 15:48:49
Medicaments? :clueless:

The Mad Monk
08-04-2009, 17:31:55
Originally posted by Funko
Has GWB been giving him tips?

No, he just repeated what he said to Obama.

Funko
09-04-2009, 08:04:16
Bush described the Whitehouse as like a weekend of camping. :confused:

MDA
09-04-2009, 11:54:06
or a weekend of hunting with his VP?

MoSe
16-04-2009, 06:55:40
"Of course, their current lodgings are a bit temporary. But they should see it like a weekend of camping."


- will the government provide temporary shelters for those who lost their houses?

- yes, that's the intent

Turd
16-04-2009, 23:18:02
Originally posted by Sir Penguin
Neutral-evil.

SP

DnD jokes are shit.