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Oerdin
23-03-2009, 07:08:24
I like Cider but haven't tried to many English cider brands in the past. I have had Strong Bow which I liked but most of the ciders I've had have been American or (surprisingly) South African. Today I noticed a bottle of Babycham Cider for sale cheap and thought I'd give it a try. I'm not sure how it pulls off being both sweet and dry but it seemed odd while at 5.9% it seemed to have a low alcohol content (several American ciders are 8%-12% abv)

All in all it seems kind of girlie and too sweet. Please tell me most English ciders aren't like this.

Scabrous Birdseed
23-03-2009, 09:18:31
Most English ciders aren't like this.

Funko
23-03-2009, 09:43:22
:lol:

Babycham is very much a girls drink. And it's perry not cider (made of pears not apples). I guess you never had the TV ads we used to have which made it very clear it was aimed at women.

Launched nationally in the United Kingdom in 1953, the drink was marketed with pioneering television advertisements to appeal specifically to women. It was the first alcoholic product to be advertised on UK television, the campaign being launched in 1957, and was originally marketed as "Genuine champagne perry".[1]

Greg W
23-03-2009, 11:00:38
:lol:

Oerdin
23-03-2009, 11:07:10
I knew it was girlie.

MDA
23-03-2009, 11:08:42
The sippy straw taped to the box didn't give it away? :)

protein
23-03-2009, 11:08:45
babycham, strongbow, bulmers, white lightning etc are mass produced crap.

cornwall and devon and the west country make good "scrumpy" - sometimes it tastes like vinegar mixed with vomit, sometimes it tastes like fine wine. its very strong, sometimes cloudy, often lurid coloured cider and gives you a strange almost druggy alcohol buzz. i don't know if that effect is because of the phenols or psychosomatic.

it comes in big plastic containers which makes it look like you are handling a dangerous and highly explosive material. the people selling it to you will ritually warn you about how strong it is

Funko
23-03-2009, 11:14:22
Oerdin made some of his own scrumpy which was very evil looking. Including meat (on the ceiling)

MOBIUS
23-03-2009, 12:04:20
:lol::lol::lol:

Didn't the name 'Babycham' give it a away...?

MOBIUS
23-03-2009, 12:12:37
There's lots of small cider producers in Wales: http://www.welshcider.co.uk/

Gwynt y Ddraig (Dragon's Breath) seems to be the most popular at the moment. Hmm, just noticed that they have a free open day next month - might actually go to that as it's not that far away...:beer:

Oerdin
23-03-2009, 12:14:49
I was hoping that was some sort of colloquial reference. ;)

MOBIUS
23-03-2009, 12:18:56
http://www.gwyntcider.com/

About 10 miles away, up on the edge of the Valleys.

MoSe
23-03-2009, 12:21:55
Originally posted by MOBIUS
Gwynt y Ddraig (Dragon's Breath)

Ach so!

so what does the name Gwyneth (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000569/) actually mean?

I admit I thought it was the Welsh version of Gina....

:cute:
:lol:

MOBIUS
23-03-2009, 12:34:52
Well, the North Welsh county of Gwynedd ('dd' is pronounced 'th') is the heartland and stronghold of 'Welshness' and that basically means 'White' or 'Pure' land, so...

Funko
23-03-2009, 12:39:08
Welsh White Supremacists?

Godwin FAIL.

MOBIUS
23-03-2009, 12:44:52
You don't know the half of it - those Gogs can get real uppity...:nervous:

Provost Harrison
23-03-2009, 13:04:13
What I'd give for a photo of Oerdin at a bar drinking a bottle of Babycham :lol:

MOBIUS
23-03-2009, 13:08:00
Similarly, in central Scotland, Babycham has in recent years been used as a mixer for the fortified wine Buckfast. This potent blend is known as "Buckcham", "Babyfast" or "Fuckfast".

:lol:

That Buckfast is lethal stuff - quite why the chavs of Glasgow thought it would be a great idea to drink a fortified wine made by monks from Devon is quite beyond me...:D

Oerdin
23-03-2009, 13:33:00
Originally posted by Provost Harrison
What I'd give for a photo of Oerdin at a bar drinking a bottle of Babycham :lol:

Thankfully there are no photographs. ;)

Provost Harrison
23-03-2009, 13:42:34
Originally posted by MOBIUS
Similarly, in central Scotland, Babycham has in recent years been used as a mixer for the fortified wine Buckfast. This potent blend is known as "Buckcham", "Babyfast" or "Fuckfast".

:lol:

That Buckfast is lethal stuff - quite why the chavs of Glasgow thought it would be a great idea to drink a fortified wine made by monks from Devon is quite beyond me...:D

I wouldn't want to be in the wrong place if I mixed up the pronunciation of "Babyfast" and "Fuckfast"...

Funko
23-03-2009, 13:59:55
Scottish Chavs = Neds

MDA
23-03-2009, 14:23:53
Don't we have a poster named Ned?

MDA
23-03-2009, 14:24:15
go ahead and own goal that

mr_B
23-03-2009, 18:16:05
Originally posted by Funko
Scottish Chavs = Neds Neds?

koel

Kitsuki
24-03-2009, 17:48:52
Neds = never do wells.

Another Scottish word for it is schemes or schemies (as in housing schemes.)

The Mad Monk
24-03-2009, 18:04:00
Originally posted by Oerdin
Thankfully there are no photographs. ;)

Somebody post a photo of Oerdin drinking something, and I'll see what I can do.

King_Ghidra
31-03-2009, 13:07:52
Found one

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_sbz7q1XWyZg/RiQdmb2uy-I/AAAAAAAAAdE/tI94taUgQiU/s320/cocktail_time%5B1%5D.JPG

Funko
31-03-2009, 15:20:04
:lol:

Turd
31-03-2009, 15:50:14
I like the hat.