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MOBIUS
27-11-2008, 13:49:49
High-flying GCSE students set for an A or A* pass scored zero points in a mock science exam which included old O-level questions. (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/0-what-this-years-top-science-pupils-would-have-got-in-1965-1036889.html)

I knew it was bad, but this is appalling...:eek:

MoSe
27-11-2008, 14:12:10
Oreo-levels?
Oriole-levels?

Tizzy
27-11-2008, 14:51:30
Oerdin-levels

Dyl Ulenspiegel
27-11-2008, 15:04:11
Failing Oerdin-levels means you're right too often?

Oerdin
27-11-2008, 15:21:46
Oerdin levels are great. :)

MOBIUS
27-11-2008, 15:37:32
Sounds like some kind of radiation level measurement...

*End Is Forever*
27-11-2008, 17:18:28
If you ask pupils to answer questions about things they haven't been taught about, you're going to get some pretty low scores. I daresay if you asked an O-Level pupil in 1965 to complete a GCSE exam you'd get some fluctuating results too.

Funko
27-11-2008, 17:20:30
they have asked parents to do modern GCSE papers (which is similar) and they did get crap scores.

mr_B
27-11-2008, 20:16:53
Originally posted by Oerdin
Oerdin levels are great. :) nono the head is

MOBIUS
27-11-2008, 21:09:11
Originally posted by Funko
they have asked parents to do modern GCSE papers (which is similar) and they did get crap scores.

But then those parents have had at least a decade + to forget everything they were taught...

When I did my degree, I still remembered from WELL over a decade ago more useful stuff from my Chemistry and Maths O-levels compared to people who'd just finished doing their A-levels...:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Funko
28-11-2008, 09:04:48
I find this 4 yorkshiremen stuff a bit distasteful whenever it comes out.
Like some MP this morning saying we should go back to 50s family values.

Kids doing o-levels in 1965 would have started in 1950 where they'd have been forced to learn stuff by heart so they don't forget it. (and probably would have been beaten if they didn't). These days information is available to everyone almost instantly. Memorising facts is much less important than learning how to research, understand and interpret data quickly. Different skills for a different time.

I don't think that "I was taught this so kids now should learn it" is the right way to think about it.

Especially in science subjects where we've moved on so far in the last 40 years.

The Shaker
29-11-2008, 12:22:57
so more beatings needed in school then.

MOBIUS
29-11-2008, 17:50:13
Corporal punishment never hurt me... :p

Funko
02-12-2008, 09:04:53
Originally posted by The Shaker
so more beatings needed in school then.

Er.. more specifically a return to the days when it was the teachers doing the beatings, not the pupils. ;)