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Scabrous Birdseed
26-08-2008, 13:02:20
Explain this one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cockchafer

Lazarus and the Gimp
26-08-2008, 13:10:09
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Tit

Lazarus and the Gimp
26-08-2008, 13:11:18
I think the explanation of the cockchafer must be "Well it would, wouldn't it?"

Funko
26-08-2008, 13:12:01
That is a great name. The first one I mean.

MoSe
26-08-2008, 13:28:55
In the Middle Ages, pest control was rare, and people had no effective means to protect their harvest.

In 1320 cockchafers were brought to court in Avignon and sentenced to withdraw within three days onto a specially designated area, otherwise they would be outlawed.
Subsequently since they failed to comply, they were collected and killed.

the famous Avignon Cockchafing Neighborhood!
:lol:

how did they "kill" them?
A 19th century recipe from France for cockchafer soup reads: "roast 1 lb of cockchafers without wings and legs in sizzling butter, then cook them in a chicken soup, add some veal liver and serve with chives on a toast".

- how do you earn your living?
- oh, I pluck cockchafers...

Dyl Ulenspiegel
26-08-2008, 13:35:06
So much better than Maikäfer or Ollonborre!

Scabrous Birdseed
26-08-2008, 13:38:31
Ollonborre ("glans driller") is actually even more unpleasant, come to think of it.

Immortal Wombat
26-08-2008, 17:32:37
any idea how it got that name in Swedish?

"Chafer" (O.E. ceafor) has been used in English to mean (some types of) "beetle" for ages, probably from the same root as the German käfer - gnawer. Possibly (http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=chafer).

Nobody seems to know where the cock sprung from. This Victorian discussion (http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=rZkRAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA446&lpg=PA446&dq=Cockchafer+etymology&source=web&ots=bXcNjiO6Zn&sig=TFw0hC2yHFKjnt7aByYwvH0QoWk&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=10&ct=result#PPA446,M1) is the most detailed I can find, but I don't believe it. And if the Swedish/Danish name is not just a straight translation of the English, then it suggests that the cock really is a cock, and it's been part of the word for a long time.

Venom
26-08-2008, 17:34:57
"The large cockchafer, Melolontha pectoralis, which is very rare and occurs only in south-western Germany. "

Well, it would, wouldn't it?

Oerdin
26-08-2008, 18:14:45
Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Tit

I see lots of those at poly.

Scabrous Birdseed
26-08-2008, 20:34:41
Originally posted by Immortal Wombat
any idea how it got that name in Swedish?

"Ollon" also means acorn. I'm assuming it chafes/gnaws/drills into them.

MoSe
27-08-2008, 07:37:53
sooo... pigs feed on "ollons", eh?