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MoSe
18-08-2008, 15:30:36
I'd like to get an architect's opinion.

Earnest.

Oerdin
18-08-2008, 23:33:01
Nonarchitect's opinion: It's ugly.

MOBIUS
19-08-2008, 01:45:14
Possibly the best pun ever (by MoSe)!:lol:

mr_B
19-08-2008, 04:48:54
:drekkus:

Scabrous Birdseed
19-08-2008, 07:32:07
Yeah but Oerdin, you think any building built after 1930 that's not a pastiche of earlier styles is ugly.

In my non-Architect opinion, it's not a particularly good building. The bird's nest hull thing is a bit gimmicky and very flashy, and it masks what otherwise is a completely conventional stadium. The swim cube is definitely more exciting.

Funko
19-08-2008, 08:13:32
I think it's awesome. Nothing wrong with gimmicky and flashy for this, it's meant to be a showpiece building for a showpiece event. I like the swimming cube more though.

A Dutch architect who recently stayed with me but doesn't post here said it was awesome and the Chinese managed to do some stuff architecturally that was previously thought to be impossible. (by including the bodies of dead slave builders in the construction like they did with the great wall? Who knows)

King_Ghidra
19-08-2008, 08:27:35
Nice oscar wilde pun on the thread title. bizarrely i was watching the film version last night.

mr_B
19-08-2008, 08:30:11
Originally posted by Funko
I think it's awesome. Nothing wrong with gimmicky and flashy for this, it's meant to be a showpiece building for a showpiece event. I like the swimming cube more though.

A Dutch architect who recently stayed with me but doesn't post here said it was awesome and the Chinese managed to do some stuff architecturally that was previously thought to be impossible. (by including the bodies of dead slave builders in the construction like they did with the great wall? Who knows) was he drunk?

mr_B
19-08-2008, 08:30:34
Originally posted by Oerdin
Nonarchitect's opinion: It's ugly. hello prince Charles

King_Ghidra
19-08-2008, 08:30:37
normally

Funko
19-08-2008, 08:58:47
^ He is right.

mr_B
19-08-2008, 09:09:07
why? he aint got an avatar

Funko
19-08-2008, 09:11:02
dhy

Oerdin
19-08-2008, 09:36:02
Originally posted by Scabrous Birdseed
Yeah but Oerdin, you think any building built after 1930 that's not a pastiche of earlier styles is ugly.

There are lots of good modern buildings especially high rises. There are also lots of hideous modern buildings.

LoD
19-08-2008, 09:45:46
Originally posted by King_Ghidra
Nice oscar wilde pun on the thread title. bizarrely i was watching the film version last night.

Damnit, I'm getting slow, I only got it after I read your post.

Funko
19-08-2008, 09:48:26
I thought it was a bit contrived. Great work. :beer:

King_Ghidra
19-08-2008, 11:03:42
Originally posted by mr_B
why? he aint got an avatar

i built one like 90% complete three times and the fucking page timed out on me and i had to start again and i got bored of doing that so i stopped

what a story what a story

Venom
19-08-2008, 11:50:02
It would be more impressive if it didn't have to have all those pipes showing beneath the roof. But then again, I guess most stadiums have things like that. I think they call it structural support. I'm not an architect though. I'm a doctor.

mr_B
19-08-2008, 12:03:58
Originally posted by King_Ghidra
i built one like 90% complete three times and the fucking page timed out on me and i had to start again and i got bored of doing that so i stopped

what a story what a story what a story inderdeed

MOBIUS
19-08-2008, 20:14:28
I'm loving both the Bird's Nest and The Cube (I also prefer The Cube).

No longer Trippin
22-08-2008, 06:06:40
There is a dirty secret in the architecture community about this stadium. Seems some Swiss architects lost the plans they drew up over months of work while out drinking the night before they were to submit their plans to the Chinese. They didn't panic however. That is not what Swiss architects do as the Swiss are a hardy people. If your fellow countrymen will set themselves on fire to kill caterpillars, giving up after losing six months work would be worth committing suicide over. All the blond haired blue eyed girls would laugh at them and make jokes about their manhood. So what did they do?

What they did do was to scribble their drunken ideas on cocktail napkins and then slept it off. When they woke up to have their breakfast of champions they saw they had what could be a baby's drawing on their hands. A few more pints of Tsingtao gave them the wonderful idea to call it Bird's Nest Stadium. But why you ask? Well, you see, in China bird's nest are wonderful things because the population is hungry enough to make a collection of sticks a delicacy. So they made their collection of drunkenly drawn loops a premier item. It worked and now someone needs to tell the Chinese they've been had.

mr_B
22-08-2008, 06:20:05
no way ................really?

protein
22-08-2008, 07:25:20
bird's nest soup isn't sticks and chinese people can't afford bird's nest soup but the drunken swiss thing sounds plausable. some of the best ideas are last minute ones.

Aredhran
22-08-2008, 08:38:43
And that does NOT include setting fire to caterpillars :shoot:

Funko
26-08-2008, 09:51:57
:lol:

Oerdin
26-08-2008, 18:13:28
Originally posted by Scabrous Birdseed
Yeah but Oerdin, you think any building built after 1930 that's not a pastiche of earlier styles is ugly.


Bayern stadium is newish and it is much nicer. I like how the whole thing changes colors and can even operate as a giant round television for people in the parking lot.

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/1423/allianzarena1oo3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Lazarus and the Gimp
26-08-2008, 18:34:08
That's vile. I liked the Beijing stadium, though.

MoSe
27-08-2008, 07:35:30
Originally posted by Oerdin
can even operate as a giant round television for people in the parking lot. [/URL]

who'll have to run all around the stadium to follow a developing action???

:lol:

Oerdin
27-08-2008, 07:43:16
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/1430/allianzarenacombokr6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/1560/rdamballianzarenav03a4ki7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/3608/munichll4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/8240/allianzarenaod5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Oerdin
27-08-2008, 07:50:04
I was looking for one which had the Bavarian flag but I couldn't find it.

Funko
27-08-2008, 08:19:12
Is that celebrating the era of the zeppelin?

Oerdin
27-08-2008, 08:42:17
At least they name their stadiums after local firms and not middle eastern absolute monarchies.

Bob
27-08-2008, 08:49:53
The change of colour takes a few mins to avoid car crashes on the nearby autobahn. A colour mix is no longer used for the same reason

Funko
27-08-2008, 08:55:50
It's sponsored by the airline which is a massive (top 10) airline that flies a lot out of London.

I guess like Allianz they were the highest bidder. That's capitalism. If you don't like it, move to Cuba.

Bob
27-08-2008, 08:58:51
It's a bit strange an insurance company sponsors a stadium leading to car crashes ...

Oerdin
27-08-2008, 09:16:53
That's capitalism.

Funko
27-08-2008, 09:30:13
I think it's irony.

MoSe
27-08-2008, 11:03:12
Originally posted by Bob
The change of colour takes a few mins to avoid car crashes on the nearby autobahn. A colour mix is no longer used for the same reason

I advise a fast swirling striped pattern, like the one giant squids use to mesmerise their prey

BTW, did the crash victims sue the company?

Bob
27-08-2008, 11:10:25
What do you think?

MoSe
27-08-2008, 11:21:04
mmmmm, currywurst!

VetLegion_
04-09-2008, 20:27:14
I like the Bird's Nest. I'm not an architect but I know quite a few of them and so far I heard no complaints about it.

VetLegion_
04-09-2008, 20:28:58
And the Chinese people simply adore it. They were lining the roads a few kilometers from the stadium just to take a picture of the thing from the distance (they wouldn't let them closer).

Shining1
05-09-2008, 08:48:02
I came for the thread title, but stayed for the insights. =)

Was more of a fan of the watercube, but the birdsnest is incredibly evocative of that kind of dystopian ruined megacity hell on earth that makes most sci-fi movies work so well.

It's just been a really awesome Olympics and while it cost $50 billion dollars, at least it was really awesome.

RedFred
07-09-2008, 22:44:37
I scrolled through quickly and thought that the Allianz Arena looked a lot like a giant caterpillar being set on fire.

VetLegion_
08-09-2008, 21:06:53
Add me to the camp of those who don't like the Allianz Arena. It's lifeless, dead, lacking of any imagination. It reminds me of a huge neon ad reminding visitors that they are just consumers.