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Lurker the Second
08-08-2008, 03:30:33
Fucking lying ho's.

link (http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/07/rumor-control-why-i-cant-put-tibet-in-my-hotmail-address/index.html)

Asher
08-08-2008, 03:34:38
Not sure why this is newsworty or why you think "TIB*" being blocked on a service I thought no one signed up for anymore is a big deal -- please advise.

Lurker the Second
08-08-2008, 03:39:39
Originally posted by Lurker the Second
Fucking lying ho's.


Sums it up. Or am I wrong?

Asher
08-08-2008, 03:44:22
Where are they lying?

Can you create a hotmail account called "tibtibtib3489" because I can't.

Lurker the Second
08-08-2008, 04:02:09
Don't know if I can or can't, but let's assume I can't. Now you tell me why I can't and then tell me if you believe the reason MS says I can't.

Asher
08-08-2008, 04:23:45
Because as part of the anti-phishing policies, as clearly indicated in your cited article, account names with financial institution names are banned. This is to prevent idiots from giving financial information to bankofamerica@hotmail.com, for instance.

Funko
08-08-2008, 07:41:10
It's just a totally a stupid way to attempt to solve the problem.

mr_B
08-08-2008, 07:45:28
I'm a good problem solver
and a very very good helper

Funko
08-08-2008, 07:57:20
jj

MoSe
08-08-2008, 08:05:35
Originally posted by Asher
a service I thought no one signed up for anymore

how would we register our AE logins, otherswise?

Lurker the Second
08-08-2008, 12:42:14
So Asher believes their excuse and I don't. Problem solved.

Funko
08-08-2008, 12:44:20
I believe it, it's typical Microsoft blunt hammer approach to a problem.

Lurker the Second
08-08-2008, 12:46:49
But look at the inconsistency -- all the things that aren't blocked that would be if they were actually doing what they say they are doing.

MoSe
08-08-2008, 12:52:16
tibidabo
tiber_river
tibonesteak

Funko
08-08-2008, 12:53:16
What things that aren't blocked? The article only gives examples of things that are blocked.

MoSe
08-08-2008, 13:05:48
like Lurker's understanding

Venom
08-08-2008, 13:06:05
China sucks.

MoSe
08-08-2008, 13:09:48
this china got sucked, instead

http://www.geekologie.com/2007/11/07/porcelain-beer-cans.jpg

Lurker the Second
08-08-2008, 13:40:25
Just from looking at the third comment to the article:

This is blatant lies and cover-ups. “tib” is restricted because of TIB Bank? Then why is “atthebrink” (with ATT, the phone company, in it) available, “cbteen” (with CBT, another bank) available, “bbteen” (BBT, yet another bank) available, and “appleinmyeyes” (using Microsoft’s rival, Apple, in the name) available? And I have only quickly tried a few possibilities. How many other inclusions of corporate identities can I have in my “Live” identity, except for the never-heard-of TIB Bank of Florida?

Funko
08-08-2008, 13:45:48
Maybe TIB asked them.

Why are things with TIB in the name but not Tibet banned if it wasn't just blocking tib?

Venom
08-08-2008, 13:47:51
What about all my tibia related e-mail addresses I wanted to create?

Lurker the Second
08-08-2008, 13:49:18
Huh? The theory is they are blocking "tib" as a means of disguising what they really want to do, which is block "tibet". Even MS didn't claim they did it because the bank asked them to.

Funko
08-08-2008, 13:52:04
I think it's more plausible than blocking stuff about tibet.

Lurker the Second
08-08-2008, 14:04:13
Really? I dunno. I'm not a MS basher at all, but it sounded awfully lame to me.

Bob
08-08-2008, 14:50:41
God, I hate Tibet!

Tizzy
08-08-2008, 14:51:16
And Tibet hates you.

Bob
08-08-2008, 14:59:22
for good reasons

Asher
08-08-2008, 15:15:13
The only conclusion I can make in this thread is that Lurker is a liar?

KrazyHorse
08-08-2008, 15:39:11
Now trying to sign up for MSN services with any string containing tib now results in a simple message saying that this ID is not available.

Yet I can sign up an account named "INGaccounts" or "CIBCaccounts"...

Lurker the Second
08-08-2008, 15:41:49
Funny how that is 'innit?

Asher
08-08-2008, 15:58:03
Why is it funny that not all banks have requested their names be banned?

You expect MS to compile a list of all banks in the world to exclude?

Isn't it far more reasonable to assume they only do such things upon requests from the banks? Requests they make which are likely after someone tries to phish using a similar address from Hotmail?

mr_B
08-08-2008, 16:01:49
why are you in defence?

Asher
08-08-2008, 16:05:06
I'm always in defense of common sense.

Lurker the Second
08-08-2008, 16:11:11
I haven't read anywhere that TIB bank or whatever the name is made such a request. It seems to me it would be fairly simple for MS to defend its actions by making the point that the bank made such a request. I'd also expect the bank to back them up if it became an issue.

Asher
08-08-2008, 16:24:07
Originally posted by Lurker the Second
I haven't read anywhere that TIB bank or whatever the name is made such a request.
Why would you assume such a request to be public?

It seems to me it would be fairly simple for MS to defend its actions by making the point that the bank made such a request.
It seems to me that MS did defend its actions by clearly spelling out that this is blocked to prevent phishing attempts. I do not think MS needs to discuss publicly whenever a company makes such a request.

Long story short, you're grasping at a fuckload of straws here to try to make a case against the obvious.

KrazyHorse
08-08-2008, 16:46:05
Originally posted by Asher
Why is it funny that not all banks have requested their names be banned?

You expect MS to compile a list of all banks in the world to exclude?

Isn't it far more reasonable to assume they only do such things upon requests from the banks? Requests they make which are likely after someone tries to phish using a similar address from Hotmail?

What, nobody's tried to phish from ING, one of the largest banks in the world?

KrazyHorse
08-08-2008, 16:47:10
I'm not into conspiracy theories. I just don't understand this.

KrazyHorse
08-08-2008, 16:47:50
If they did, would hotmail block livingitup@hotmail.com?

Asher
08-08-2008, 16:52:08
Originally posted by KrazyHorse
What, nobody's tried to phish from ING, one of the largest banks in the world?
Specifically, ING's either likely never complained about people phishing from hotmail or MS refused to block that one because "ing" is an exceptionally common grouping of letters in English...

mr_B
08-08-2008, 17:07:00
tralalalalala is a great song

Lurker the Second
08-08-2008, 18:09:14
Originally posted by Asher
Why would you assume such a request to be public?


I wouldn't assume such a request would be made public in the first instance. I would assume that if it (a request) was in fact the reason for the block, then the fact that a request was made would be made public. And for a number of reasons, including pr and to let other institutions that might be the object of phishing attempts know that there is something they can do about it.


Originally posted by Asher
I do not think MS needs to discuss publicly whenever a company makes such a request.

Neither do I, but this falls outside of the "whenever" category.

Bob
08-08-2008, 22:35:44
fucking tibet lovers go to hell