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King_Ghidra
31-07-2008, 12:51:46
So i have a lot of change, about 14, and my cowie suggested i could spend it all in the confectionary machine at work. This would mean 28 chocolate bars/bags of sweets, which i suggested would mean @250 kcals c. 7000 calories. He suggested this would enable me to have a crack at beating the weight of the 88 stone man who was on the tv recently.

Now according to the bmi, 500 extra calories a day equates to about a 1lb of weight gain a week. On this basis we calculated that at my current weight of 12.5 stone, i could hit the 88 stone target in roughly 20 years time (let's call this the patient and easy option, not the 7000 calories a day option).

Sadly at this point i realised we had made a mistake. The bmi figures equate to the weight of lean muscle, not fat. So this would mean i could only hit my target weight by being an 88 stone Adonis. I'm not sure this is feasible.

So a couple of questions spring to mind:

how much less than lean muscle does fat weight?
how much harder/easier would it be to just put fat on?
what is the maximum amount a muscular average-height human could weigh?

Funko
31-07-2008, 13:01:15
Some googling suggests that there are 3500 calories per pound of fat. This would mean your 500 extra calories a day would still give you 1lb of fat per week.

C.G.B. Spender
31-07-2008, 13:01:39
I wouldn't worry about the 500 extra calories. I guess that's a glass of water

Funko
31-07-2008, 13:03:53
3 beers(ish)

C.G.B. Spender
31-07-2008, 13:04:37
That would be 500kcal

mr_B
31-07-2008, 13:26:23
ask dr Vernon

MoSe
31-07-2008, 13:27:32
rule-of-thumb says

proteins and carbs: 4 calories (that's kcal) per gram
fat: 9 kcal per gram

in a very superficial way, you could say that if you trust to transform all your cal intake in muscles, you could divide by 4
if instead normally you foresee that the *extra* cals you take will be stored as fat, those you should divide by 9

this means that 500kcal normally become 55.5 grams of fat
in athletes and bodybuilders 500 excess kcal could in theory be used to build up muscles up to 125 grams

when you have instead to take down weight, you assume and hope to take down fat, so you count 9 kcal (and not 4) for every gram you want to shed....
to take down 1lb per week, that is 453.6/7=64.8 grams per day, you have to take in 64.8*9=583.2 kcal LESS than you consume each day

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at the light of these figures, the statement "The bmi figures equate to the weight of lean muscle, not fat" has to be verified

C.G.B. Spender
31-07-2008, 13:34:52
What's that in EURO?

MoSe
31-07-2008, 13:43:24
I might check how much do chocolate-covered-pork-rinds cost

C.G.B. Spender
31-07-2008, 13:46:01
Sounds like 0,08 kcents

Venom
31-07-2008, 14:27:01
Dr Vernon says: Muscle density is 1.06 g/ml and fat density is (about) 0.9
g/ml. Thus, one liter of muscle would weight 1.06 kg and one liter of
fat would weight 0.9 kg. In other words, muscle is about 18% denser
than fat. This should not be confused with the "energy density" of
muscle and fat.

C.G.B. Spender
31-07-2008, 14:28:25
What's that in sticks and stones?

Drekkus
31-07-2008, 14:43:40
I'm denser than fat

C.G.B. Spender
31-07-2008, 14:46:58
I'm fatter than you

mr_B
31-07-2008, 14:48:40
I'm shorter than you

MoSe
31-07-2008, 15:06:52
I get fat with shortbread

Drekkus
31-07-2008, 15:12:32
Originally posted by C.G.B. Spender
I'm fatter than you So you weigh more but are not as dense as I.

Vincent
31-07-2008, 20:38:24
Not as thick as you

Shining1
31-07-2008, 23:29:15
Most massively obese people seem to be a team effort really, past the point they can't move someone else has to take responsibility for maintaining their massive calorie intake.

Is your friend ready to shoulder this huge burden? =)

Oerdin
01-08-2008, 03:04:57
The world's fattest man, that fat Mexican with the rolly cart Venom wrote an article on, used to weight 88 stone but has since lost 29 stone.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7510018.stm

I say KG should go for the record and become a 89 stone adonis.

Funko
01-08-2008, 07:44:51
Originally posted by Venom
Dr Vernon says: Muscle density is 1.06 g/ml and fat density is (about) 0.9
g/ml. Thus, one liter of muscle would weight 1.06 kg and one liter of
fat would weight 0.9 kg. In other words, muscle is about 18% denser
than fat. This should not be confused with the "energy density" of
muscle and fat.

First result on google ftw!

C.G.B. Spender
01-08-2008, 08:29:01
What did you dearch for, "More stupid lies of that fat bastard"?

Venom
01-08-2008, 11:52:13
Originally posted by Funko
First result on google ftw!

Because Dr Vernon wrote it.

RedFred
09-08-2008, 17:49:55
Using rocks to measure weight seems primitive. Do you measure speed by furlongs per fortnight?

The 888 thing was big here. Seems like every block you would run into another wedding procession.

mr_G
09-08-2008, 18:29:53
Originally posted by Venom
Because Dr Vernon wrote it. dr vernon wrote google - FACT!!

MoSe
11-08-2008, 13:51:21
Originally posted by RedFred
The 888 thing was big here. Seems like every block you would run into another wedding procession.

did a lot of chinese play and win online poker at www.888.com?