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The Mad Monk
27-04-2008, 19:17:40
The house I bought was built in 1930, with a couple additions (attic conversion, and a new room) sometime in the 1950s. Most of the original windows are in fair to poor condition, and need replacement.

At this point, I need to replace five upstairs windows (the sixth already has a vinyl replacement installed, two over-the-sink kitchen windows, and three swing-in style windows in the basement.

I want to try restoring the six windows in the living room, which are all original, in reasonable to fair shape, and appeal to me. Two identical windows in the master bedroom are in poor shape, but I want to restore those too, if possible. If it isn't possible, to want the replacements to match them.

SO, if anyone here has experience in repairing or restoring windows, please tell me about it. Do-it-yourself or hiring a contractor, chain or small shop, I don't care, i want to see all the options.

Thanks in advance! :)

Koshko
27-04-2008, 19:42:26
Linux

RedFred
28-04-2008, 06:03:32
I'll follow this thread with interest because we are kind of in the same boat. Ours need replacing in a year or two. We have crappy metal frames circa 1969.

Is insulation/energy efficiency an issue?

Mr. Bas
28-04-2008, 07:56:36
Ask Laz, he would know.

mr_B
28-04-2008, 09:54:15
Originally posted by Koshko
Linux nerd :lol:

Drekkus
28-04-2008, 09:55:44
Asking for DIY advice on CG is indeed a serious hazard to your health.

Scabrous Birdseed
28-04-2008, 10:08:41
By the thirties all windows were industrially made, right? so you don't have to worry about finding period glass, just period frames.

Have a look out for any demolitions of similar-era buildings in the area and try to stock up on windows/frames beforehand. If its anything like here there'll only be a couple of standard window formats for each decade.

I think you should be able to manage everything except getting the glass cut, obviously. A good paint stripper is probably a decent investment.

Beta1
28-04-2008, 19:04:25
MM - I forget, are you UK based? if so you might want to reconsider restoring over replacement. The way things are going here with energy efficiency reports you would get hammered if you sold up for not having modern sealed unit double glazing.

zmama
28-04-2008, 21:17:33
Only if Kansas is in the UK

Vincent
29-04-2008, 04:19:31
There's no place like home

Funko
29-04-2008, 08:04:55
There's no place like home

Drekkus
29-04-2008, 08:11:53
There's no such place as 'home'

MDA
29-04-2008, 10:25:48
we all live in an underwater bridge

zmama
29-04-2008, 10:26:30
and its yellow

MDA
29-04-2008, 10:27:23
maybe its the river that's Yellow

Tizzy
29-04-2008, 10:31:04
Originally posted by Drekkus
There's no such place as 'home'

But my internets has a home button!

MDA
29-04-2008, 10:36:06
well then, I think we've found the glitch in the matrix

Tizzy
29-04-2008, 10:38:39
Any my keyboard does too!

Funko
29-04-2008, 10:41:30
Any my keyboard huh.

zmama
29-04-2008, 10:42:33
Coffee would help this problem

Tizzy
29-04-2008, 10:45:22
No likey coffee. Give tea!

MDA
29-04-2008, 10:46:48
We've got a contract to have our windows replaced this summer. Our house is only 15 years old, though.

We used a local contractor that carried Pella windows. The ones they slapped into the house when it was built were extremely cheap.

MDA
29-04-2008, 10:47:43
I have coffee now. This one says "sumatra". I think that means tasty.

zmama
29-04-2008, 10:49:52
jes, jes it does

Funko
29-04-2008, 10:50:44
Is it the one they pick out of the civet cat shit?

zmama
29-04-2008, 10:53:22
nah that costs extra

The Mad Monk
29-04-2008, 15:31:16
Originally posted by Scabrous Birdseed
By the thirties all windows were industrially made, right? so you don't have to worry about finding period glass, just period frames.

Have a look out for any demolitions of similar-era buildings in the area and try to stock up on windows/frames beforehand. If its anything like here there'll only be a couple of standard window formats for each decade.

I think you should be able to manage everything except getting the glass cut, obviously. A good paint stripper is probably a decent investment.

Fortunately (or unfortunately), the only windows I plan to keep "period" are the windows in the living room and master bedroom, and those are mostly in good enough shape for a simple restore job.

There's already enough vinyl elsewhere in the house that a little more isn't going to make much difference.

The Mad Monk
29-04-2008, 15:43:31
Originally posted by MDA
We've got a contract to have our windows replaced this summer. Our house is only 15 years old, though.

We used a local contractor that carried Pella windows. The ones they slapped into the house when it was built were extremely cheap.

Loin said his parents had good luck with those.

No longer Trippin
01-05-2008, 06:54:42
I've sat in on a couple seminars on this though I've never actually done it.

Do you have basic woodworking knowledge and time? That's about all it takes.

If any of the windows are double hung, don't waste time stripping and restoring the sash cords, replace them. The same thing goes for the muntins in any window that has them. Those thin pieces of wood just aren't worth your time to deal with. If the contractors you'd pay several hundred dollars a window on won't fix the sashes/muntins, it probably means you shouldn't as well. Use a linseed based compound for a sealant instead of a modern silicon sealant as it will last much longer with minimal maintenance. When your done, properly paint the windows. Don't paint them shut. Many houses of the eras before AC actually were designed with excellent ventilation if the windows are used properly. You can save a bit in electricity in some months. A properly functioning window setup is supposed to be as energy efficient as modern windows. . . or so I've heard the experts who do restorations tell me.

It isn't a hard job, it just takes a bit of time and basic woodworking skills. If you have both of those, have fun.

Aredhran
02-05-2008, 09:14:04
It really depends where you live (i.e. the type of weather and temperatures variations you have).

My house was built in 1954, with simple wood windows and "normal" glass. I replaced them after moving in with modern, white PVC on aluminium frame and double-glazing glass, and my heating bill was cut in half.

Which may not be an issue if you live in the middle of the Sonora desert ;)

MoSe
02-05-2008, 09:15:06
Originally posted by MDA
This one says "sumatra". I think that means tasty.

it means "your mother got fucked by a sumo wrestler"

MDA
02-05-2008, 10:24:06
that explains so much about my little sister