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Funko
16-04-2008, 10:19:03
So for the first time in BSG history I think I'm fully up to date. We got episodes 1 and 2 of season 4 yesterday.

Great start I thought. They worked Starbuck's return much better than I thought possible. The cylon infighting was well done and the revealed final 4 storyline was an interesting start.

Glad to have Baltar back with the fleet being his Baltar best and working his way through the women of the fleet. Are there any major female characters other than the president he hasn't shagged now? Baltar with his own Baltar replacing the imaginary 6 was funny too.

He's also up to 3/4 of the known female skin jobs. Fair play. :beer:

Tizzy
16-04-2008, 11:57:55
I'm not going to rant about Baltar being a colossally annoying twattish knob.

I'm not.

He has some very funny moments, granted, but I can tell this "Baltar is Jesus" type thing is going to seriously piss me off in weeks to come.

Funko
16-04-2008, 12:03:14
You and Venom are together on that one.

MOBIUS
16-04-2008, 16:18:41
I'm pissed off about Baltar already, and I haven't even seen an episode IV show yet...:tizzy:

alsieboo
17-04-2008, 22:50:50
I quite like Baltar, he's got crazy eyes, and I always seem to like the arrogant ones.

We're trying to figure out who the last cylon person is, and we've got a shortlist of about 3, but I think it's going to be such a long drawn out process, which is going to annoy the hell out of me.

Tizzy
18-04-2008, 07:28:02
I reckon we won't find out who it is till quite near the end.
I'm assuming it's going to be a main character that no-one would ever suspect, someone like Adama or the president, but maybe not.

Lazarus and the Gimp
18-04-2008, 08:22:22
It'll be Helo. Which means the Helo/Boomer sprog isn't a hybrid but a full-on Cylon/Cylon mating- thereby affirming their "humanity" in a philosphical sense and rendering the old-world humans obsolete. And thereby fundamentally challenging our entire basis for rooting for the "humans" all along, in a staggering reversal of expectations.

i r deep, me.

Funko
18-04-2008, 08:26:38
Starbuck or Baltar would be too obvious, but is the fact it's too obvious a double bluff?

I think it has to be one of the major characters, and there aren't that many of them left who aren't already Cylons.

The candidates:

Starbuck
Baltar
Roslin
Apollo
Admiral Adama
Helo

With a small chance it could be

Gator
Dee
Cally

Funko
18-04-2008, 08:28:40
Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
It'll be Helo. Which means the Helo/Boomer sprog isn't a hybrid but a full-on Cylon/Cylon mating- thereby affirming their "humanity" in a philosphical sense and rendering the old-world humans obsolete. And thereby fundamentally challenging our entire basis for rooting for the "humans" all along, in a staggering reversal of expectations.

i r deep, me.

Which means Cally's kid is the real hybrid that's been prophesised to unite the humans and cylons or something.

I think at the end the cylons become the humans for the next cycle 'cause all this has come before etc.

C.G.B. Spender
18-04-2008, 08:39:47
So it turns out to be that terrible Chris de Burgh song? Spaceman blah?

Tizzy
18-04-2008, 08:39:55
Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
It'll be Helo. Which means the Helo/Boomer sprog isn't a hybrid but a full-on Cylon/Cylon mating- thereby affirming their "humanity" in a philosphical sense and rendering the old-world humans obsolete. And thereby fundamentally challenging our entire basis for rooting for the "humans" all along, in a staggering reversal of expectations.

i r deep, me.

Interesting. I hadn't thought of that. I like it.

Funko
18-04-2008, 09:24:13
I want to know when they are going to deal with the issue of the Chief's kid.

Venom
21-04-2008, 13:05:51
Originally posted by Funko
Which means Cally's kid is the real hybrid that's been prophesised to unite the humans and cylons or something.

I think at the end the cylons become the humans for the next cycle 'cause all this has come before etc.

Hey, that sounds like a familar idea.

Funko
21-04-2008, 13:13:05
Yeah.

DaShi
21-04-2008, 22:11:04
I"m thinking it could be Cally.

maroule
22-04-2008, 09:46:35
I watched the e02 yesterday, will watch 3 and 4 possibly tonight

Baltar is great, Starbuck is a bit annoying

the cylons becoming the next humans is fine with me is they all look like caprica 6... but they are certainly announcing a reversal in perception...

I liked the fact that the lower forms of the cylons rebelled against the skin jobs, for the same very reasons they rebelled against the humans in the first palce (hence with some cylons displaying the same "racism" as the humans, failing to recognise they are sentient, conscious beings)

I'm a bit worried about the one true God rambling though

Funko
23-04-2008, 10:30:16
Had DaShi seen episode 3 when he posted that?

Funko
23-04-2008, 15:11:14
http://www.radiotimes.com/content/show-features/battlestar-galactica/battlestar-galactica-last-supper/

Is the last cylon missing from the last supper pic?

Tizzy
23-04-2008, 15:37:32
That would spoil Laz's theory

DaShi
26-04-2008, 17:42:39
Originally posted by Funko
Had DaShi seen episode 3 when he posted that?

Yes, but I've only seen the last 5 episodes of the entire series so I don't know their names. However, when she comes back, I'll be right. :)

Fistandantilus
27-04-2008, 12:29:22
There definitely was a resurrection ship nearby.

maroule
23-06-2008, 14:43:38
so what, nobody talked about the last episode?
was it earth and the brooklyn bridge?

me think not
they carefully avoided to show any continent (when the ships were approaching)

Fistandantilus
23-06-2008, 15:06:37
Yeah, that's strange, but I actually believe that is earth (and NYC). After all Pythia never fails :p

maroule
23-06-2008, 16:05:12
but wasn't Roslyn supposed to die before they reached earth?

MDA
02-07-2008, 12:37:28
So... that was the end?

or will there be a follow up movie?

Tizzy
02-07-2008, 12:42:39
There's another half series to be broadcast next year (writer's strike break) but that episode was intended to serve as a finale in case the rest didn't get written.

MDA
02-07-2008, 12:48:07
It should have ended with Olmos "waking up" back in Blade Runner and then, just as he realizes the Cylons were just a bad dream, he's murdered in bed by a Replicant.

edit: oh, didn't realize the strike affected it, thanks

Funko
21-01-2009, 09:29:07
Season 4 part 2 just started here, only seen the first episode, it was a promising one though I think.

MOBIUS
21-01-2009, 12:39:45
Probably a more appropriate name than Season 5...:D

Dunno, I thought it got all very weird and mumbo-jumboey. And that was just the first episode.

Venom
21-01-2009, 12:46:14
Yes. It's all very weird and mumbo jumboey. Still a very technically well done show, but plot wise it's all over the map.

Funko
21-01-2009, 13:02:22
After episode 1 Venom's theory seems to be very close to proved.

Fistandantilus
21-01-2009, 14:57:47
What was Venom's theory again?

Funko
21-01-2009, 15:21:55
It's all cyclical and so we're all cylons. Or something.

Venom
21-01-2009, 18:31:20
That's about the gist of it.

DaShi
22-01-2009, 04:45:08
If everyone's a frakking cyclon. How can they tell that the bones were cyclon bones and not human?

Funko
22-01-2009, 09:23:44
No idea, I don't know how they can even detect cylons like that. The last cylon detector ended up nuking half the fleet.

MDA
22-01-2009, 13:49:37
I never watched regularly because something would always piss me off and I'd stop for awhile, yet I always seem to get sucked back in for a bit. I don't really care how it ends, I just want it to be over. Watching is a little like being drunk - feels fine for a bit, but eventually you want to go to sleep and can't without getting sick.

Venom
22-01-2009, 17:24:37
Originally posted by Funko
No idea, I don't know how they can even detect cylons like that. The last cylon detector ended up nuking half the fleet.

They had 1 line of throw away dialogue to answer that. The Cylons tested them. Apparently the Cylons have no problem telling the difference in their tests.

Funko
23-01-2009, 09:27:10
I obviously missed that.

Venom
23-01-2009, 15:47:32
Easy to do so. It wasn't made a very big point.

It just begs the real question. Why do the Cylons have a Cylon detector? There's only 7 of them and they all know each other.

Funko
23-01-2009, 15:50:32
It's a final five detector.

Fistandantilus
14-02-2009, 15:32:23
Originally posted by Venom
..There's only 7 of them and they all know each other...

Apparently not :D

Lots of revelations in yesterday episode. I liked it.

MOBIUS
20-02-2009, 15:19:51
Definitely enjoying these latest episodes - whenever it starts getting boring, they have a big fight and kill a bunch of major characters. Great.:bounce:

Funko
20-02-2009, 15:43:33
Yeah, it's on a real upswing.

Lazarus and the Gimp
20-02-2009, 18:55:30
One problem. Tuesday's episode appeared to be an attempt to cram half a season of back story into one episode. I think I got a bit confused.

Funko
23-02-2009, 09:20:08
As far as I could make out.. the Final 5 were cylons from 13th colony. They invented resurrection technology and used it to escape Earth's apocolypse. They then traveled to warn the 12 colonies to be nice to their cylons before they too rose up against them.

They arrived at 12 colonies too late. So they helped the 12 colonies centurion cylons build skin jobs with human emotions to try and prevent them being genocidal. Didn't really think that one through though, probably should have studied humans a bit better.

Now Boomer and Ellen are coming back, presumably to Galactica, where they can stir up some relationships.

Funko
24-02-2009, 14:04:34
Did anyone catch who nuked Earth/what happened to Earth's humans?

Fistandantilus
25-02-2009, 13:52:20
As far as I know they didn't tell us yet.

MDA
23-03-2009, 11:46:32
saw final episodes, only watched intermittently before the last season

I can see why people like it, but I don't really care for it, I guess. All these great secrets were revealed in the last season and I ended up underwhelmed.

Probably not fair to say that if I didn't watch it regularly, then again, I wasn't motivated to watch it regularly.

Fistandantilus
23-03-2009, 12:04:36
Last episode left me with mixed feelings... I think I'll rewatch it, all in all has been a great show imo, and I'm sad it ended :(

MDA, you should watch Lost, no fear of great secrets ever been revealed :p

MOBIUS
23-03-2009, 13:04:24
Tuesday is the grand finale here - I've already got mixed feelings...

MDA
23-03-2009, 13:47:20
I never started Lost (despite people telling me it was exactly the kind of thing I'd like), and stopped with Heroes during the 1st season. I figured (wrongly, I guess) that they'd never save the cheerleader and save the world, and the series would just go on, and on, and on with nothing resolved.

MOBIUS
23-03-2009, 14:13:19
Lost just pisses me off greatly - IMHO you have missed nothing by not watching it. I think during the first series they realised what a money-spinner they had and endeavoured to stretch the whole story out as long as possible to cash in as much as possible.

In fact, just before the beginning of the last series here, I watched an hour long review of the previous four series and felt more than adequately informed to understand everything that was going on for the new series! I think I'd just wait for the last episode now before watching again - it will make just as much sense that way!

As for Heroes, I rather quite like this - though even it is beginning to suffer from the stretchout-itis that seems to pervade every promising series from the US...

Venom
25-03-2009, 01:27:04
I did not like the finale at all. I could talk about it ever but essentially it made very little sense and completely flew in the face of everything that has been fought for and died for. Everything that was learned and all the struggles overcome, both personal and societal, were all for naught.

Lazarus and the Gimp
25-03-2009, 06:16:26
I liked it.

Funko
25-03-2009, 09:54:01
I am a bit conflicted. I generally liked it, but I think it left a lot unresolved. Especially about Starbuck. And I'm a bit sad it's all over.

I really feel like the last 5 or 6 episodes they really rushed us to the end with a seasons worth of story in a quarter of a season.

Originally posted by Venom
Everything that was learned and all the struggles overcome, both personal and societal, were all for naught.

Wasn't that part of the point though? Were they or weren't they for naught? But in the end they reached Earth, so it was all worth it?

Venom
25-03-2009, 11:46:33
They reached Earth, all went their separate ways, abandoned technology and were probably extinct 2 years later. Not what I thought I was getting watching the series all this time. And not true to the characters at all.

Fistandantilus
25-03-2009, 11:48:23
Originally posted by Venom
... and were probably extinct 2 years later...

:lol:

Venom
25-03-2009, 11:51:33
And even if you're cool with all that, how it was executed just beggars belief.

Baltar talks Cavil out of a centuries old grudge to the point where he just kills himself when resurrection was his goal all along? Lee manages to convince the remaining population to agree to live an existence more miserable than anything they had in the actual fleet? Angels and Mr Don't Call Me God were planning and guiding this thing the entire time and this was the best plan they came up with?

Seems like the creator of the show read something about Mitochondrial Eve and then wanted to preach to us about how technology is bad and farming is good so he made sure all his pieces could fit that plan no matter the logic.

Lazarus and the Gimp
25-03-2009, 19:13:27
Originally posted by Venom
Lee manages to convince the remaining population to agree to live an existence more miserable than anything they had in the actual fleet?


That made sense to me. After being cooped up on cramped ships for 4 years, with little food, I imagine the thought of the settler life might be attractive.

Venom
25-03-2009, 19:50:41
I would think they could find a balance between the New Caprica disaster and running off in to the woods to almost certainly die.

JM^3
28-03-2009, 11:24:09
So it was a luddite tale?

JM

Lazarus and the Gimp
28-03-2009, 11:45:25
With a hint of "High Plains Drifter".

mr_B
28-03-2009, 17:08:18
started season one this day
woooooooo

Lazarus and the Gimp
28-03-2009, 17:17:46
I hope you've got the mini-series that came before season 1, or it'll make no sense at all. I made that mistake.

mr_B
28-03-2009, 18:47:38
jesjes saw the miniseries first.
it's fracking great

mr_B
29-03-2009, 10:25:43
saw season 1 this weekend.
really nice serie but....
only 50,000 ppl on the fleet, that's like a small town.
The press conference made me laugh, 20 reporters for 50,000 ppl

mr_B
29-03-2009, 10:26:53
and I am beginning to get annoyed from all the "famous" history moments and classic movies copy cats.

the Lee Oswald / Boomer assasination for example.

Lazarus and the Gimp
29-03-2009, 17:59:02
Originally posted by mr_B

The press conference made me laugh, 20 reporters for 50,000 ppl


If you were deciding which elements of humanity to save, would you really go for journalists?

Lazarus and the Gimp
29-03-2009, 18:03:38
I think I'd choose a dozen or so really good project manager, about a thousand engineers. A similar number of doctors/nurses.

The rest of the numbers could be made up by lingerie models.

mr_B
29-03-2009, 20:20:45
don't forget a jester.


ok let's make it a bitje more simple.
Let's say you may select 10 ppl, gimme your selection.

mine will be.

1. architect / male
2. good friend of architect / male
3. lingerie model / engineer / female age 28
4. lingerie model / nurse / female age 28.
5. lingerie model / GI jane / female age 28.
6. lingerie model / doctor / female age 35.
7. lingerie model / therapist / female age 35
8. lingerie model / cook / female age 28
9. lingerie model / farmer / female age 28
10. lingerie model / porn actress / female age 28

MOBIUS
01-04-2009, 20:02:03
So, you like your women aged 28 and 35?

mr_B
04-04-2009, 19:38:30
where is the dog in the new serie?http://www.bredobrothers.de/_media//people/muffit1.jpg

Sir Penguin
05-04-2009, 04:16:02
Ron Moore was hotlinking to it.

SP

Cheshire Cat
10-10-2011, 08:28:18
I hope you've got the mini-series that came before season 1, or it'll make no sense at all. I made that mistake.

were you pre-figuring the Caprica prequel TV-series that was yet to come at the time of your post?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caprica_(TV_series)
Didn't we have a separate thread for that?
couldn't find it

Funko
10-10-2011, 09:47:34
Sadly it was pretty awful.

And I watched all of it. :(

MOBIUS
12-10-2011, 22:51:13
Phew, I only watched a few episodes to decide I didn't like it - made the right choice there!

Lazarus and the Gimp
15-10-2011, 07:45:51
This looks more interesting than that Caprica tripe-

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1704292/

Joe Pasqualino (ex-Skins) looks a good choice for the young Adama.

MOBIUS
15-10-2011, 11:29:56
Blood and Chrome?

Is this Battlestar Galactica meets Spartacus? :bounce:

maroule
17-10-2011, 12:06:11
hum, intriguing
any date announced? are they done filming?

Funko
17-10-2011, 12:29:31
But then I thought Caprica sounded good too...

maroule
17-10-2011, 13:14:50
I saw the pilot the other day... meh....