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Dyl Ulenspiegel
06-03-2008, 11:59:05
Yes, computers hate me, and I hate them. :D

Now, I have the following situation:

Harddrive has partitions C, D, E

Windows XP on C, gets totally fucked by installing a new anti-virus-software; had problems earlier. No repair through install cd possible.

So I have installed Windows XP again on D, and all that goes with it. Lots of cursing, but not bad anyway, as it's a clean version now.

I want to use C just for data now and would prefer tabula rasa there. I think I have to uninstall XP on C first using osuninstall or so (?); but there is still stuff on C like boot.ini I think that would make "format c:" a bad idea, or?

Any suggestions how to best clean up C:? TIA, also for the obligatory mindless spam.

Lurker the Second
06-03-2008, 13:16:47
Very Important Question: Why not thank the people who don't spam?

Dyl Ulenspiegel
06-03-2008, 13:17:35
Thank you, Lurker.

Funko
06-03-2008, 13:26:53
If you're having multi partitions like this, put the system stuff and nothing else on C, and all your stuff on D and E, then you can just reinstall Windows onto C, and because that's all that's on there you won't lose anything.

So I would have reinstalled XP onto C formatting the drive before I did it.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
06-03-2008, 13:48:04
I did the 2nd install on d: because I couldn't get anything to work, and read that two systems on one partition may cause problems.

If I keep the OS on d:, what's the best way to erase c: AND keep the bloody thing working?

zmama
06-03-2008, 13:52:03
XP reaaaaaaly really wants to be on C

Best to do what Funko said. Yeah it sounds like extra work but doing it right will save you time.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
06-03-2008, 13:55:23
So whatwould I have to do exactly?

Deinstall old XP from C:
Format C:
Install XP on C:
Deinstall XP from D:

?

Drekkus
06-03-2008, 14:13:07
Or rename C: to F:, then D: to C:, and then F: to D:

:D

Funko
06-03-2008, 14:19:42
Originally posted by Dyl Ulenspiegel
So whatwould I have to do exactly?

Deinstall old XP from C:
Format C:
Install XP on C:
Deinstall XP from D:

?

If it was me, from where you are now, I'd copy any useful files from C or D to the E drive or even better do that and also back it up on CD/DVD/another machine.

Format C: and D:

Install XP on C:

Reinstall any software.

See what anyone else says.

Fistandantilus
06-03-2008, 14:24:16
I won't trust anyone but Tizzy on these issues. She knows.

Funko
06-03-2008, 14:25:43
Mostly right, but on home desktop installation she's a bit shaky. She's hardly ever/never installed a machine by sitting at it and using CDs, mostly using automatic network installers.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
06-03-2008, 14:28:26
I want an automatic network installer. :(

Dyl Ulenspiegel
06-03-2008, 14:29:23
Originally posted by Funko

Format C: and D:


Can you format a partition with an OS on it?

Funko
06-03-2008, 14:35:03
Yes.

LoD
06-03-2008, 14:37:12
A humble suggestion:

1. Back up all your data before formatting anything :).
2. Get a LiveCD from a modern Linux distribution. Ubuntu ( http://www.ubuntu.com/ ) will do.
3. Put the LiveCD into the drive, restart the computer, wait for it to load up, find the partitioning program (in the Tools or System tab, called Qtparted).
4. Don't change the partitioning, just format the drives.
5. Exit the program, and restart your computer, not forgetting to swap the Linux LiveCD for your Windows installation CD.
6. Proceed with the Windows installation. Like everyone said, use C: for system data.

Funko
06-03-2008, 14:39:44
^ Yep. Good plan.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
06-03-2008, 14:41:04
1. Back up all your data before formatting anything :).

The one thing I know about computers is that they are bastards. So I always have backups, most important stuff 3 times...


2. Get a LiveCD from a modern Linux distribution.

Why the need for linux with partitioning or formating? And why format all partitions?

Venom
06-03-2008, 14:46:39
I would definitely back up all valuable data and just blow the whole mother fucking thing away and start from scratch.

Funko
06-03-2008, 14:48:32
I don't have any important data.

LoD
06-03-2008, 15:23:54
Originally posted by Dyl Ulenspiegel
Why the need for linux with partitioning or formating?

You don't need Linux. You do need partition management software that:
-works independently of the installed operating system,
-guarantees that the format will be clean,
-has a nice, readable graphical interface.

And it just so happens that a Linux LiveCD (i.e. a CD that contains a self-contained, fully functional operating system that runs directly from this CD without any installation) provides the best solution.


And why format all partitions?


Because Windows is about as clean and organized as an eremite of the Discordian Church of Poo.

In other words, to be certain.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
06-03-2008, 15:42:04
"Because Windows is about as clean and organized as an eremite of the Discordian Church of Poo."

Convincing argument.

Ok, that will take some time then. For now, can I just deinstall the old windoze xp? Or rather not risk any collateral poo?

Lurker the Second
06-03-2008, 15:42:29
Originally posted by Venom
I would definitely back up all valuable data and just blow the whole mother fucking thing away and start from scratch.

This made me :lol:

Vincent
06-03-2008, 15:52:19
This place has become nerd heaven

Dyl Ulenspiegel
06-03-2008, 16:04:39
No SAP for me.

Vincent
06-03-2008, 16:06:21
ASAP

LoD
06-03-2008, 16:29:35
Originally posted by Dyl Ulenspiegel
"Because Windows is about as clean and organized as an eremite of the Discordian Church of Poo."

Convincing argument.

Ok, that will take some time then. For now, can I just deinstall the old windoze xp? Or rather not risk any collateral poo?

From my experience: If it ain't broken, don't fix it. If there aren't any show-stopper problems stemming evidently from an interference of the old installation, wait until you have time to perform the full clean-up and reinstall, and, until then, leave it be.

Cruddy
06-03-2008, 17:31:56
Here's how I avoided this problem;-

1) Installed Win 2000 on C.

2) Installed everything anywhere else.

I don't USE Win 2000, except as a tool to reset XP when it's totally FUBAR'd.

Not really relevant in your case, but it saves all this fucking around when "anti-virus software", ie Norton, decides to spray shitty files all over the place like an expressionist baby.

Alternative solution (as LoD said) - have a boot floppy or CD to "format C:" or otherwise reset the system.

Booting off the XP CD will give you the choice of formatting any and everywhere partition before it installs anything.

C.G.B. Spender
06-03-2008, 19:02:37
Hey, it's only an operating system, not a philosophy

Lurker the Second
06-03-2008, 19:56:35
You obviously haven't met Asher.

Chris
06-03-2008, 21:46:50
I laugh at your misfortune.

Immortal Wombat
07-03-2008, 02:10:41
at having met Asher?

MoSe
07-03-2008, 12:32:42
Originally posted by Funko
Mostly right, but on home desktop installation she's a bit shaky. She's hardly ever/never installed a machine by sitting at it and using CDs, mostly using automatic network installers.

ah, she's a toddler then

mr_B
07-03-2008, 12:33:45
go buy yourself a beer

Tizzy
07-03-2008, 12:40:26
I don't understand what MoSe said. Should I be concerned?

Funko
07-03-2008, 12:44:17
Ah - an expression in this case intended to mean he thinks he understands

she's - contraction of she is, meaning that you Tizzy are something

a toddler - a small child who is learning to walk or 'toddle'. Usually 12 to 36 months old.

then - interestingly this word does nothing in this sentence.

So he's basically saying that you are a 12 to 36 year old child.

MoSe
07-03-2008, 12:45:26
I intended to mean:

you must be very young, you didn't grew up in the old times when things had to be done the hard way, you're no McGyver nerd

;)

Dyl Ulenspiegel
07-03-2008, 12:45:50
"12 to 36 year" :hmm:

MoSe
07-03-2008, 12:46:46
Originally posted by mr_B
go buy yourself a beer
it's only water
in a stranger's tears

Tizzy
07-03-2008, 12:49:12
Originally posted by Funko


So he's basically saying that you are a 12 to 36 year old child.

Can't argue with that

MoSe
07-03-2008, 12:49:21
Originally posted by Funko
then - interestingly this word does nothing in this sentence.


shouldn't it establish a logical correlation with the initial statement?

Given the intial info, "then" this one could be reasonably deducted?

;)

Shining1
07-03-2008, 14:36:45
Windows shipping with a clean, easy way to reformat a disc and start again would almost qualify as a sign of the end times.

LoD
07-03-2008, 16:03:25
Satan would surface, searching for clearance on parkas.

MoSe
07-03-2008, 16:17:39
bah, I can have Satan for mat