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MOBIUS
17-10-2007, 09:57:20
Cheney, Obama 'distant cousins'
Barack Obama and Dick Cheney
Mr Obama and Mr Cheney share a French ancestor
They may be polar opposites politically but US Vice-President Dick Cheney and Democratic candidate Barack Obama are related, Mr Cheney's wife says.

Lynne Cheney said she had discovered while doing family research for a new book that her husband and the Illinois senator were eighth cousins.

She said she traced a common ancestor of the two men to be a 17th century immigrant from France.

She described the connection as "amazing".

"This is such an amazing American story that one ancestor... could be responsible down the family line for lives that have taken such different and varied paths."

According to Mrs Cheney's spokeswoman, Mr Obama is distantly related to Mareen Duvall, whose son Samuel married the granddaughter of Mr Cheney's ancestor, also called Richard Cheney.

Mr Obama's spokesman, Bill Burton, responded to the news by saying: "Every family has a black sheep."

Mr Cheney, the brooding neo-conservative closely associated with the decision to invade Iraq, has little else in common with Mr Obama.

Mr Obama, the son of a Kenyan man and a white woman from Kansas, has earned epithets like "rock star" because of his popularity among young Democrats, and a reputation as a liberal because of his voting record in the Senate.

Kinda ironic it’s the Obama aide who mentioned the Black Sheep thing…

MDA
17-10-2007, 12:09:39
:lol:

They're both French!

Venom
17-10-2007, 12:11:33
Half the people in the world are probably 8th cousins.

Cruddy
17-10-2007, 17:47:31
You must have really strange families. A dog, cat, pet fish...

black sheep? Sexually perverted family life in my opinion.

MOBIUS
17-10-2007, 18:21:15
Is it any wonder when we have a :funko: smiley?

maroule
18-10-2007, 07:43:27
I'm probably related to both :nervous:

Resource Consumer
18-10-2007, 09:15:04
seems the Swiss have black sheep too

Funko
18-10-2007, 09:22:46
I saw some of those commie liberals in the Guardian claiming that picture might be racist. Can you believe it?

MOBIUS
18-10-2007, 09:24:56
Own Goal!

King_Ghidra
18-10-2007, 09:29:43
is it because he is black?

Resource Consumer
18-10-2007, 10:03:24
it looks like he's kicking the arse of the white sheep to me :)

King_Ghidra
18-10-2007, 10:10:40
then you should stop smoking crack because it's literally the opposite.

MoSe
18-10-2007, 10:12:44
interesting how such poster is placed right above a fence....

Funko
18-10-2007, 10:13:34
Because it's so a fence ive?

MoSe
18-10-2007, 10:17:07
where's that slackjaw smilie?

King_Ghidra
18-10-2007, 10:18:26
or the banning rod

MoSe
18-10-2007, 10:18:54
:shoot: :funko:

Resource Consumer
18-10-2007, 10:19:46
Originally posted by King_Ghidra
then you should stop smoking crack because it's literally the opposite.

I know that. Just that the white one looks unbalanced and the black one a bit guilty. As if the picture was a little after the action.

MoSe
18-10-2007, 10:20:08
do sheepshaggers fancy blacksheep or scoff them?

Funko
18-10-2007, 10:20:17
:beer:

MDA
18-10-2007, 10:43:13
I'll take that to mean Funko favors the black sheep.





because its more fun than what he probably meant

Funko
18-10-2007, 10:45:10
It was a double x-post I was toasting everyone's disgust with my pun.

RC is not a racist but he thinks the black one looks guilty

Resource Consumer
18-10-2007, 11:01:57
Exactly. I fully understand the odious impression that the cartoon is trying to give. However, if one takes a wider view and think of it a little like a picture taken at the wrong time it looks (to me at least) like the black sheep has kicked the white one and looks now a little..............sheepish

Funko
18-10-2007, 11:24:38
But the black sheep is supposed to look guilty, he's a criminal that's why they are kicking him out.

Resource Consumer
18-10-2007, 11:27:31
That is true. He's black so he must be guilty of kicking that poor nice white sheep just before we arrived.

Funko
18-10-2007, 11:31:05
Excellent, a new signature! (as a poly HOF member, I need to keep up standards)

Resource Consumer
18-10-2007, 11:31:54
Exactly. :D

Resource Consumer
18-10-2007, 11:32:29
I hope you'll put that in your Poly sig as well :D

Aredhran
18-10-2007, 12:47:57
For the record, it is an advert for UDC, an extreme-right-wing party during the campaign for the chambers elections happening this week-end

I must say I am ashamed to live in the same country as the people who put up that post sign.

MDA
18-10-2007, 12:53:04
I thought it was a warning not to cross the fence in the foreground. :lol:

Aredhran
18-10-2007, 13:04:37
The message basically is, "for a safer Switzerland, let's kick all the foreigners out" :o

MoSe
18-10-2007, 13:06:21
some kind of kids game, like dodgesheep

MoSe
18-10-2007, 13:07:17
Originally posted by Aredhran
"for a safer Switzerland, let's kick all the foragers out"


herbivore elitism!

MDA
18-10-2007, 14:36:10
In the US, building a fence on the border is racism.

Funko
18-10-2007, 14:38:06
It's fair enough though, keep the fucking Canadians out.

MDA
18-10-2007, 14:41:05
with their beady eyes and flip-top heads!

Funko
18-10-2007, 14:41:26
Are people really mental enough to say building a border fence is racism?

maroule
18-10-2007, 14:44:48
on the mexican border, I won't say, but building a border in the occupied territories in Palestine certainly is (in so far as land grabbing is justified by the religious certainty that arabs don't belong to the "god given lands")

MDA
18-10-2007, 14:53:27
People are that good at spinning the facts to advance their agenda.

There's all kinds of fuss about illegals getting county services in our area without paying taxes, whether local or state police have the right to check your immigration status with the feds (or is that racist/racial profiling), etc.

Venom
18-10-2007, 14:58:36
I'm going to copy the sign, make that one sheep brown and give it a sombrero.

Venom
18-10-2007, 14:59:35
Originally posted by Funko
Are people really mental enough to say building a border fence is racism?

Ask the Mexican Presidente.

Funko
18-10-2007, 15:01:23
That kind of thing will get you in Hot Water!

Venom
18-10-2007, 15:03:47
He's probably over here looking for work too. I'll look for him the next time I go to Bojangles or see the landscape guys in the neighborhood.

MDA
18-10-2007, 15:04:29
I feel bad for the people that bust their ass to get legal status and lose their job to an illegal alien.

I wrote a recommendation letter to immigration for a friend recently and did find out that it cost her roughly 5000 dollars once all the fees and lawyer-y stuff was added up. That's a ridiculous price in my mind, and is probably prohibitive for a lot of illegals.

Might be cheaper to skip the fence and put the money into lowering the cost of immigration.

MoSe
18-10-2007, 15:05:43
"landscape guys"?

MDA
18-10-2007, 15:06:09
Originally posted by Venom
Ask the Mexican Presidente.

That guy is nuttier than Britney

Venom
18-10-2007, 15:08:12
Originally posted by MoSe
"landscape guys"?

Border hoppers who go around cutting grass, putting down pine straw, digging holes, breaking into homes when people aren't around. You know, landscapers.

MoSe
18-10-2007, 15:09:27
I watched 5 minutes of Larry King interviewing him on CNN, and I though I mostly agreed with him....

maybe because it was 2:30 am and I was barely awake, leave alone aware

MoSe
18-10-2007, 15:11:42
Originally posted by Venom
You know, landscapers.

ah, I thought "landscape architects", you know, those who first design a bridge cuz it's cool and then dig the ditch underneath to justify it

King_Ghidra
18-10-2007, 15:18:56
Originally posted by Funko
Are people really mental enough to say building a border fence is racism?

are you discriminating against people with mental health issues?

Funko
18-10-2007, 15:22:19
We are allowed to call ourselves mentals, especially in our music.

Koshko
19-10-2007, 02:12:58
Originally posted by Funko
But the black sheep is supposed to look guilty, he's a criminal that's why they are kicking him out.


It just looks like that one white sheep is just a jerk.

MoSe
19-10-2007, 07:37:47
a knee-jerk reaction?

MoSe
19-10-2007, 07:39:03
Originally posted by Funko
Are people really mental enough to say building a border fence is racism?
No, it's fencism.
Fencing.
...whatever.

Oerdin
19-10-2007, 08:11:13
BBC says the nationalist party is set to get 27% of the Swiss national vote.

Aredhran
19-10-2007, 08:37:11
Yep. Scary isn't it. They have about 23-24% now.

Although not all members of this party are extremists - originally it's a traditional, conservative group defending the interests of farmers etc. Adolf Ogi was a good representative of this.

Only recently has there been a kind of "split" within the party, with the "traditional", agrarian wing, and the nationalist, extreme-right wing, with Christoph Blocher in the lead.

Funko
19-10-2007, 08:38:11
Adolf huh? Arian wing?

Aredhran
19-10-2007, 08:49:21
To see what I mean, check this

http://www.udc.ch/index.html?page_id=1&change_lid=3

And the best, (I really should submit this as the free game of the week...)

- protect Switzerland from the invasion of foreigners by intercepting passports freely distributed by socialist and ecologist parties !
- kick out foreigners (symbolized by black sheep) from the country !
- shoot EU fiscalists to prevent them from stealing our money !
- prevent the State from lowering speed limits and stealing our money with radar controls !

Funko
19-10-2007, 08:50:55
The last one doesn't sound particularly bad?

Aredhran
19-10-2007, 08:50:58
Originally posted by Funko
Adolf huh? Arian wing?

http://www.admin.ch/ch/f/cf/br/102.html

He now works for the UN as Special Adviser on Sport for Development and Peace.

MoSe
19-10-2007, 09:09:15
I know this is unrelated but

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_women's_suffrage

Switzerland was the last European nation (except Liechtenstein) to grant women's suffrage

this is to mean, in a very superficial way, that in some Swiss Cantons "modern concepts" like granting equal rights are historically hard to get accepted....

:cute: