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Gnostic
25-07-2007, 10:17:08
They are hiking the price of my latte by 9 cents and that is on top of the last hike. I think I am gonna have to give the stuff up (if I could)

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,290536,00.html

Funko
25-07-2007, 10:20:44
LazyView (http://lazyview.blogspot.com/2007/07/pizza-prices-set-to-rocket.html) broke the dairy price rise weeks ago.

Gnostic
25-07-2007, 10:22:54
I think it is Starbucks gouging the American people.

Funko
25-07-2007, 10:24:46
Nah, the milk market is genuinely going through the roof.

MOBIUS
25-07-2007, 10:27:57
I blame the supermarkets for paying the dairy farmers too little and forcing them to close down.

Drekkus
25-07-2007, 10:42:32
Originally posted by Funko
LazyView (http://lazyview.blogspot.com/2007/07/pizza-prices-set-to-rocket.html) broke the dairy price rise weeks ago. In how many parts did it break?

Mr. Bas
25-07-2007, 10:45:19
I blame the chinese.

Funko
25-07-2007, 10:46:05
It is the fault of the Chinese! Well done.

jsorense
25-07-2007, 15:39:10
:confused: So, is Bossman Chinese?:confused:

Evan von Christoph
25-07-2007, 16:24:34
I hate Starbucks

Dyl Ulenspiegel
25-07-2007, 16:40:38
Milk prices have risen about 10 -cent per liter here. It's not so bad considering that what we spend more, gets saved in agro-subsidies.

Or should be saved.

Lurker the Second
25-07-2007, 17:57:01
I blame lazyview.

SuperCitizen
25-07-2007, 18:28:07
9 cents, what is that... like 0.01 in euro cents, canadian, australian... like the real money?

alsieboo
26-07-2007, 17:18:38
Starbucks are poo. Costa are way better. They even have their own coffee brand. Recap, starbucks suck.

Vincent
26-07-2007, 20:41:22
tchibo rulz

MDA
16-08-2007, 18:52:26
They've gone too far! Starbucks, across the street from Starbucks.

http://www.gergltd.com/users/isaac.gerg/starbucks/

Dyl Ulenspiegel
16-08-2007, 19:07:45
The mark of the beast!

Oerdin
16-08-2007, 20:59:40
Originally posted by Dyl Ulenspiegel
Milk prices have risen about 10 -cent per liter here. It's not so bad considering that what we spend more, gets saved in agro-subsidies.

Or should be saved.

That's wishful thinking. No politician is going to reduce the gravy train for the lazy, worthless, blood sucking farmers. Those bastards should be forced to compete openingly on the market but no doubt they will continue to be the most protected, coddled, and useless industry on the planet.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
16-08-2007, 21:21:02
Well, as I said, "should"...

To some extent there is an automatic compensation though, as CAP interventions depend on the difference between intra-EU and world market prices.

Oerdin
16-08-2007, 21:55:55
The price difference really doesn't amount to much as agricultural goods are a commodity and so the world price tends to equalize very quickly just like it does in oil.

The only real result of first world farm subsidies is they enable first world farmers to remain inefficient and lazy while utterly crushing the life out of 3rd world farmers due to depressed crop prices. The third world has nothing else to export except for agricultural goods or raw materials and we're making the first one a complete money loser due to our huge subsidies. All this so French farmers can sit on their asses in farms which are so small and inefficient that they simply cannot justify their own existence. Screw them, let them compete or die.

Then maybe European farms will become consolidated into larger holdings which actually have the economies of scale to operate efficiently at market rates.

Oerdin
16-08-2007, 21:58:32
Actually I made a small factual error. The third world can also export labor but the first world isn't all that interested in allowing third world labor to migrate to the first world so really that's a mute point.

MoRe
17-08-2007, 02:01:53
If milk is too expensive then just drink straight espresso. It is cheaper and takes effect much faster.

JM^3
17-08-2007, 02:39:25
Originally posted by MDA
They've gone too far! Starbucks, across the street from Starbucks.

http://www.gergltd.com/users/isaac.gerg/starbucks/

There is one like that in Greenbelt.

JM

Dyl Ulenspiegel
17-08-2007, 08:39:19
"The price difference really doesn't amount to much as agricultural goods are a commodity and so the world price tends to equalize very quickly just like it does in oil."

And?

Agree pretty much for the rest.

Funko
20-08-2007, 08:47:43
Originally posted by Oerdin
That's wishful thinking. No politician is going to reduce the gravy train for the lazy, worthless, blood sucking farmers. Those bastards should be forced to compete openingly on the market but no doubt they will continue to be the most protected, coddled, and useless industry on the planet.

Well in Britain, despite subsidies, most small/medium farmers are borderline bankrupt despite working extremely long hours. A great deal of that is because the supermarkets that buy virtually all their produce are incredibly powerful and have driven the prices down so low you can't make any money, but also the subsidies you do get as a farmer force them into running their farms in ways that are less efficient. Bankruptcies and suicide rates are very high in farmers here.

So I think it doesn't even help our own farmers, it just screws the 3rd world.

C.G.B. Spender
20-08-2007, 08:48:47
Dito here.

MoSe
20-08-2007, 11:48:54
Dito = Finger

Dyl Ulenspiegel
20-08-2007, 11:51:02
Diritto = Stinkefinger

MDA
20-08-2007, 12:30:47
Dorito = cheese-like powder

Oerdin
20-08-2007, 14:57:50
Originally posted by JM^3
There is one like that in Greenbelt.

JM

Last time I was in Seattle I found one intersection which had Starbucks on three of the corners. The fourth corner had a Seattle's Finest Coffee.

Oerdin
20-08-2007, 14:59:37
Originally posted by Funko
Well in Britain, despite subsidies, most small/medium farmers are borderline bankrupt despite working extremely long hours. A great deal of that is because the supermarkets that buy virtually all their produce are incredibly powerful and have driven the prices down so low you can't make any money, but also the subsidies you do get as a farmer force them into running their farms in ways that are less efficient. Bankruptcies and suicide rates are very high in farmers here.

So I think it doesn't even help our own farmers, it just screws the 3rd world.

Yeah, that's kind of the point. Small and medium sized farms are to small to compete there for they should be allowed to die a natural death so that farms can be merged into larger farms which will have the economies of scale capable of actually generating a profit without the massive subsidies.

OldWarrior_42
20-08-2007, 22:24:41
Most coffee you drink from either the supermarket or at a Coffe shop such as Starbucks or whatever is already old and past its prime.

This is an interesting website that may enlighten you to better coffee. www.coffeefool.com

C.G.B. Spender
21-08-2007, 07:39:36
It's hard to get a good coffee if you don't make it yourself.
Grinding and brewing it yourself without using a coffee machine is much better - and more fun.

This place is like coffee heaven:
http://www.kaffeeroesterei-burg.de/

Oerdin
22-08-2007, 15:15:37
Originally posted by OldWarrior_42
Most coffee you drink from either the supermarket or at a Coffe shop such as Starbucks or whatever is already old and past its prime.

This is an interesting website that may enlighten you to better coffee. www.coffeefool.com

$34 for an 8 oz bag?! I suspect marketing is where the last $30 comes from.

Funko
22-08-2007, 15:25:46
That's the most expensive one. Organic fair trade at $8 for 12oz is relatively cheap I think.

OldWarrior_42
23-08-2007, 01:05:44
34 for an 8 oz bag?! I suspect marketing is where the last $30 comes from.

I like the fact that you pick the one most expensive premium blend and use that as a statement about the whole site and its' costs.

You can get 2.25 lb. bags of a good regular blend of coffee (that is fresh as hell for less than $1 per pound. Try looking a bit further into the types and costs.

MDA
23-08-2007, 11:18:44
Originally posted by C.G.B. Spender

Grinding and brewing it yourself without using a coffee machine is much better - and more fun.


Sweet, I'll get a mortar and pestle and grind all my cares away!

so on that website... it looks like I could order Kona any time I want - but they don't actually harvest it year round do they? Does it not lose/change flavor until after its roasted?

I have no idea how coffee harvests work, I guess.

OldWarrior_42
25-08-2007, 02:25:38
Sweet, I'll get a mortar and pestle and grind all my cares away!

Or you can get a coffee grinder, but I know how you mad scientists can be. :-~~

so on that website... it looks like I could order Kona any time I want - but they don't actually harvest it year round do they? Does it not lose/change flavor until after its roasted?

I have no idea how coffee harvests work, I guess.

I don't buy my coffee there. I have had one bag from that site and it was fresh and sweet as hell. Just a regular blend and a reasonable price. I get coffee from all different places and types.

The Maxwell House supermarket stuff, the Kona blends from Hawaii. I have a close friend in Virginia that has family living in Hawaii and they send him coffee periodically during the year, I guess around harvest times.... and he sends me my share.

I order online from Swiss Colony. I drink plain coffee, espressos, Dark roasts, mild, vanilla.... whatever coffee I can get i try and drink.

But I believe the coffee doesn't start to lose flavor and freshness until the whole bean is ground up. You are probably always better off to buy whole bean coffee.

Anyways, I just thought it was an interesting site and people might be interested in it.

Next time I'll keep my mouth shut as I usually do and then nobody can complain.

Buttnuggets.

Lurker the Second
27-08-2007, 13:51:32
You're no fun.

MDA
27-08-2007, 14:16:54
I do have a grinder, attached to the coffee maker, and I buy whole bean coffee. Guess I'm doing something right, at least.

I just clamp the bag shut and leave it next to the pot, which isn't the best way to preserve freshness, I guess.