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02-05-2002, 21:40:08
Just questioning Mike's judgement.

Here are three "big" bands in the whatchamacallit New Genre, or at least bands that have all been placed together by critics. I've picked slightly variable-speed medium-paced songs from all three. All representative, I'm sure you'll agree. None of them borderline or particularly "hard".

White Stripes (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/clipserve/B00000IONU001010/102-1144369-5917753) (Click "When I Hear My Name")

Vue (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/clipserve/B00005NMXL001002/102-1144369-5917753) (Click "Pictures of Me")

Moldy Peaches (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/clipserve/B00005NP09001005/102-1144369-5917753) (Click "Who's got the Crack")

Now for three Pop-Punk/Emo songs. I've tried to pick reasonably varied ones, one fast, one emo, one straight pop-punk.

Jimmy Eat World (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/clipserve/B00005MHQO001002/102-1144369-5917753) (Click "A Praise Chorus")

The*Ataris (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/clipserve/B00000IJ9B001003/102-1144369-5917753) (Click "San Dimas Highschool Football Rules")

Sum 41 (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005BJMW/qid=1020375123/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/102-1144369-5917753) (Click "Crazy Amanda Bunkface")

Now, I've tried to be fair, but which of these two groups has the most similar instrumentation, the most similar hooks, the most similar guitar and drum patterns, etc.? Honestly. :hmm:

03-05-2002, 08:38:44
White Stripes: I like what I've heard of them before but this is really dull. Slow Rock and/or Roll. Heard it a million times on 50s compilations
Vue: Medium fast Rolling Stones, sounds like the guy even wants so sound like Mick Jagger
Moldy Peaches: This is one of the songs from Five Dollar Bob's Mock Cooter Stew by Mudhoney? That's a good thing. Second band you've mentioned to me in a week that sound exactly like Mudhoney, I think you should check them out. They were doing this stuff 10 years ago.

All three seem to be using basic late 50s / early 60s rock and roll riffs all produced slightly differently. To me they are just variations on a very old theme.

Jimmy Eat World: One of my favourite albums of last year. This is a great song. Very melodic. I like it a lot and I don't normally like this kind of stuff.
The*Ataris: I've got this song on download. It's OK, I don't particularly like this pop punk stuff. This doesn't offend me but doesn't excite either
Sum 41 are pretty funny, I like them when they rip into the old school metal shit but aside from that very boring.

As to the comparison I can hear the differences in influences in the second three but it's probably because I'm a lot more familiar with their stuff. I never tried to claim that all the new pop punk stuff didn't sound similar, just that it's easier to hear the differences in stuff you like.

I'll try and find a decent set of rock bands for you to compare. It's not really fair for you to choose the selection of bands in a genre you hate. :)

03-05-2002, 09:02:18
OK here is a quickly chosen selection of things that I've seen the UK music press calls Nu Metal. Just picking really big bands that everyone will have heard of. I wouldn't classify any of this stuff as Nu-Metal personally.

System of a Down (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/clipserve/B000021YQV001001/102-2753445-6831344) Download Needles

Alien Ant Farm (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/clipserve/B00005A7TW001003/102-2753445-6831344) Download Flesh and Bone

Queens of the Stone Age (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/clipserve/B00004TH6O001007/102-2753445-6831344) Download Better Living Through Chemistry

03-05-2002, 12:03:36
SOAD: What shall we do with the drunken sailor, what shall we do with the drunken sailor, what shall we do with the drunken sailor Earlye in the morning?

AAF: More classic than Nu, but what the hell. Metal is Metal, right? ;)

QOTSA: I'll personally hunt down and asassinate whoever called the Queens nu-metal. That said, I don't like them, based on the fact that they provided one of the most dissapointing concerts I've ever attended, with the lead singer both immensely drunk and stoned, and unable to muster up a performance worth a damn.

Still, they've all got similar guitar/base guitar/drum setups, no exotic or interesting instrumentation here. They've all got distortion on their guitars in a similar manner. They've got vaguely similar drumming patterns, hidden in the background noise (no clear backbeat here). All have male, overdramatic lead singers.

03-05-2002, 12:12:33
QOTSA live was very disappointing for me at Reading festival as well. OK so I was incredibly drunk and can't remember it but they weren't as good as the year before playing in a little tent when all the musicians were on fire.

Genres are bollocks people put all kinds of crazy bands in different genres. At the Drive-In are emo being the worst one for me.

There aren't many female singers in metal at the moment which sucks.

You can do anything you need musically with bass, guitar, drums and vocals and possibly somekind of keyboard. You don't need anything else.

Metal is metal? Listen to Goatsblood then Iron Maiden. Doesn't matter whether you like them they are utterly different.

Or Fantomas then Tomahawk, two of Mike Patton's current bands. Both exceptional.

03-05-2002, 13:48:44
this thread doesn't make any sense...

how 'who's got the crack?' sounds like mudhoney i don't believe for one second

also, system of a down don't sound like anyone - they are doing things that no metal/nu metal/rock band are doing at the moment

the white stripes don't sound like the moldy peaches who don't sound like the hives who don't sound like the strokes who don't sound like the yeah yeah yeahs who don't sound like

is the point of this thread to say that all nu metal bands soudn the same or all dirt rock/garage/whatever-the-fuck-you-want-to-call-it bands sound the same?

ANyone trying to say that all the bands of a particular genre soudn the same is going to make themselves look like an ass

03-05-2002, 13:56:48
I was trying to say that it's easier to distinguish bands within genres you like.

Oh and I realised I accidently downloaded downloading porn with Davo, which does sound like Mudhoney. Who's got the Crack sounds nothing like them.

03-05-2002, 13:58:09
That's me! But I was thinking Pop-Punk and Linkin Park/Limp Bizkit/KoRN/Slipknot/A type stuff as the two genres in question. Mike claimed in the other thread that all "whatchamacallit genre" bands sounded the same, and the same as 60s/70s bands.

Mike: "Who's got the Crack" sounds nothing like Mudhoney. I'll include another Moldy Peaches track for reference on the Mix CD I'm giving you.

03-05-2002, 14:07:18

03-05-2002, 14:09:08
A sound nothing like Slipknot, A are one of the more original sample based pop punk bands, they just have one nu metal cash cow.

I might have to make you a mix CD with interesting music that falls in all the genres you don't like. :D