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MattHiggs
02-05-2002, 17:11:45
Lostprophets (er... the newest one)
Alien Ant Farm - Anthology
System of a Down - Toxicity
Roni Size Represent

From first impressions all the albums (2 hour drive with them played at full blast) they are great. I love the Alien Ant Farm album. Much heavier than I expected.

Noisy
02-05-2002, 18:52:00
:eek:

I've bought those AAF and SoaD albums in the last month, as well.

MattHiggs
02-05-2002, 21:44:21
Good aren't they? :D

FunkyFingers
03-05-2002, 08:22:47
Reprezent I found to be a bit of a disappointment - there's really only 1 decent track on that album, the first one.

Noisy
03-05-2002, 08:23:11
Yes. Yes they are.

But not so I'd automatically go out and buy another album of theirs.

self biased
04-05-2002, 04:21:46
the last album i bought was Sepultura's 'Roots.' a classic in their own time.

MattHiggs
04-05-2002, 14:58:12
The Roots?

Snapcase
04-05-2002, 16:18:14
Roots, Sepultura Album in which the usual assortment of empty metal clichés are supplemented by African Drumming in a laughable attempt to show that Metal isn't music for lily-ass blancka ladyboys.

Sean
04-05-2002, 16:23:30
That reminds me of a distilled Tool review I found somewhere once.

Sean
04-05-2002, 16:27:52
Hello (http://www.google.com/search?q=tool+%22wall+of+drums%22+asian+sounds), what’s this (http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/t/tool/lateralus.shtml)?

Snapcase
04-05-2002, 18:12:58
I'm not going to say anything about Tool. They're my most hated band in music today mut if I do, MikeH will probably put a Tool track on the CD he's giving me and then I'll have to kill him.

Lazarus and the Gimp
04-05-2002, 18:41:59
I bought "Lateralus". It's a bit pretentious, but there's a couple of killer tracks on it. "The Grudge" is brilliant.

Funkodrom
05-05-2002, 08:54:29
Yeah. It is a bit pretentious but they get away with it because some of the tracks are just so good. I prefer A Perfect Circle which is a bit less pretentious and more consistant with the quality of the songs.

Vincent Fandango
05-05-2002, 09:20:18
I find Tool pretty intersting because the put several styles into a chromium context. That's an interesting idea, removing the "blue" from the blue notes. It sounds like music from a William Gibson novel. Personally, I like music that plays with extremes.

self biased
08-05-2002, 02:28:24
wow... sounds like someone is a bit of a music snob. thankfully, i'm one too, and can appreciate that. unfortunately, it's brazilian tribal drumming, not african. sepultura is a classic band. well... was. since max left things have more or less gone to pot, which even you can agree, snapcase.

as for tool, the pretentiousness is a part of the style... i've always seen that aspect as some sort of self mockery than anything my favorite track off of lateralus is 'disposition.' it's just so mellow.

Snapcase
08-05-2002, 11:26:25
It's just so... Anti-Rock. Take away the energy, supplement it by lethargy. Take away the simplicity, supplement it by ridiculous complication. Take away the carefree, sloppy attitude, the pick-up-and-play ethos and go for extremely serious, slightly sardonic High Instrumentalism. Take away the self-distance, add a screen showing supposedly disturbing images. Take away the emotion, substitute mumbling. Take away the danceability, barely add swayability. Take away showmanship, add a guy standing in a corner completely still during an entire concert. That's Tool. Combining the absolutely worst aspects of Metal (overblown, cliché-filled, attempts at being "scary"), Post-Punk (Depressive/energy-less, repetetive without ever achieving a good droning rhythm, attempts at being "bleak") and Prog-Rock (Extreme pretensiousness, complete lack of fun, attempts at being "grown up"), easily my three least favourite genres to boot, Tool are just my ultimate hateable band ever. Especially live.

Funkodrom
08-05-2002, 11:27:36
:lol:

King_Ghidra
08-05-2002, 11:29:34
Mike, make the scary snappy man go away

MattHiggs
08-05-2002, 11:29:47
Originally posted by Snapcase
It's just so... Anti-Rock. Take away the energy, supplement it by lethargy. Take away the simplicity, supplement it by ridiculous complication. Take away the carefree, sloppy attitude, the pick-up-and-play ethos and go for extremely serious, slightly sardonic High Instrumentalism. Take away the self-distance, add a screen showing supposedly disturbing images. Take away the emotion, substitute mumbling. Take away the danceability, barely add swayability. Take away showmanship, add a guy standing in a corner completely still during an entire concert. That's Tool. Combining the absolutely worst aspects of Metal (overblown, cliché-filled, attempts at being "scary"), Post-Punk (Depressive/energy-less, repetetive without ever achieving a good droning rhythm, attempts at being "bleak") and Prog-Rock (Extreme pretensiousness, complete lack of fun, attempts at being "grown up"), easily my three least favourite genres to boot, Tool are just my ultimate hateable band ever. Especially live.

You should write your own music magazine!

Funkodrom
08-05-2002, 11:31:29
I didn't put any Tool on his album... perhaps I should. :D

Snapcase's definition of what rock is is totally unique. He thinks that Zeppelin don't rock.

King_Ghidra
08-05-2002, 11:40:05
Originally posted by Snapcase
...Combining the absolutely worst aspects of Metal (overblown, cliché-filled, attempts at being "scary"), Post-Punk (Depressive/energy-less, repetetive without ever achieving a good droning rhythm, attempts at being "bleak") and Prog-Rock (Extreme pretensiousness, complete lack of fun, attempts at being "grown up"), easily my three least favourite genres to boot, Tool are just my ultimate hateable band ever. Especially live.

From the sounds of what snappy doesn't like (overblown, scary, depressive, bleak, pretentious, no-fun, grown-up music) the ideal band for him would be Steps...

but they have split! How cruel is fate?!?! :cry:

That just leaves Bob the Builder...

Funkodrom
08-05-2002, 11:41:29
:D

MattHiggs
08-05-2002, 11:48:46
Steps split up the day we drove down to Reading. Snapcase was devistated, it took a lot of 'consoulling(sp?)' from Rich.

I'll never forgive Snapcase for playing Sympathetic Sounds of Detroit.

Funkodrom
08-05-2002, 11:54:35
He made me listen to The Streets after admitting that they were shit.

Snapcase
08-05-2002, 12:11:00
Bob the Builder is prefferable to Tool in every way. :D

How exactly does Led Zeppelin rock? You can't dance to it!

MattHiggs
08-05-2002, 12:27:34
Indeed the streets are shit, and no way is that 'the next big thing'.

Funkodrom
08-05-2002, 12:34:06
Originally posted by Snapcase
Bob the Builder is prefferable to Tool in every way. :D

How exactly does Led Zeppelin rock? You can't dance to it!

Yes you can, I have!

Snapcase
08-05-2002, 12:40:05
I don't call "jumping about madly with no connection whatsoever to the beat of the music played" dancing. With metal, since there's no marked backbeat, there's no "natural rhythm" taht you fall into.

Funkodrom
08-05-2002, 12:41:36
I do call "jumping about madly with no connection whatsoever to the beat of the music played" dancing. :p

If you want to dance listen to dance music, leave our rock alone.

Funkodrom
08-05-2002, 12:43:34
K_G: Next thing I bet he says that standing on the stage at the AD air guitaring doesn't count as dancing. :rolleyes:

King_Ghidra
08-05-2002, 12:45:07
heresy!!!!

Funkodrom
08-05-2002, 12:46:27
Exactly. And moshing in time is a skill.

Snapcase
08-05-2002, 12:50:38
Of course it is. That's because there's no beat. In real rock moshing is automatic, you just follow the natural bounce of the rhythm. In metal, since there isn't one, you have to concentrate.

Funkodrom
08-05-2002, 12:53:04
Of course there's a beat.

Snapcase
08-05-2002, 12:54:08
Hidden beneath the noise. Never have I experienced music which makes me less inclined to bob my head or tap my foot than metal. It's so... flat.

Funkodrom
08-05-2002, 12:56:37
Depends on what it is really. Some stuff really isn't meant to be danced to, just listened to. That's not a bad thing.

Snapcase
08-05-2002, 12:57:39
Possibly, but then it's not rock. Rock is defined by the marked Backbeat, the movement, the rocking and rolling!

Funkodrom
08-05-2002, 12:58:40
Rock and Roll are two very different things.

Snapcase
08-05-2002, 13:00:21
I thought "Rock 'n' Roll" was a euphemism for sex. Rhythmical motion. Like dancing.

Funkodrom
08-05-2002, 13:07:17
I have a female friend who says that Led Zeppelin II is the sexiest album ever. But they are very rock and roll based.

Metal isn't the same as rock though. I agree that rock is something that makes you want to move but I don't agree that that movement has to be 'dancing'.

BTW, Lostprophets've got some great beats.

Snapcase
08-05-2002, 13:13:11
Lostprophets have some okay beats. They'd be a whole lot better if they movewd out of the base register and added some swinging treble.

Funkodrom
08-05-2002, 13:14:45
That would sound really, really shit.

Vincent Fandango
08-05-2002, 13:25:59
Originally posted by Snapcase
Possibly, but then it's not rock. Rock is defined by the marked Backbeat, the movement, the rocking and rolling! That's Polka

Funkodrom
08-05-2002, 13:27:18
Rock and Polka?

Vincent Fandango
08-05-2002, 13:48:10
We really need more categories, so we don't have to listen to all that shit anymore.

Funkodrom
08-05-2002, 13:50:01
I think the HARDMAN is humiliationcore.

Vincent Fandango
08-05-2002, 13:53:40
Wir spielen auf verschiedene Arten
von uns habt ihr nichts zu erwarten ...

Funkodrom
08-05-2002, 13:54:38
We do not play it in different kinds of us have anything to expect

Vincent Fandango
08-05-2002, 14:05:26
Almost

Funkodrom
08-05-2002, 14:08:20
That was Babelfish's guess. :D

Vincent Fandango
08-05-2002, 14:25:12
I hate all music categories. I never find CDs in big shops. Especially categories like Independent, Punk, Alternative etc. The only thing that really works is the alphabet. And I listen to any kind of music. Quality is no attribute of a genre. I got Volume I of these:
La Paloooomaaa oheeee! (http://www.trikont.de/english/artist/e_paloma.html)
Quite nice!

self biased
11-05-2002, 16:35:35
i once did a best of the list for my mp3 collection... here it is...

01. nine inch nails & david bowie - hurt (live)
02. A Perfect Circle - ashes to ashes (live)
03. Deftones - be quiet and drive
04. Marilyn Manson - apple of sodom (live)
05. Mudvayne - nothing to gein
06. Soulfly - no
07. sevendust - waffle
08. Fear Factory - ressurection
09. Fear Factory - timelessness
10. Rasputina - MayFly
11. Static-X - Permanence
12. Beavis & Butthead - Never gonna score
13. Prick - I apologize
14. rammstein - Das Modell
15. Sepultura - One man Army
16. nine inch nails - gave up
17. orgy - revival
18. forgotten - contribution
19. david bowie - wild eyed boy from freecloud