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Lazarus and the Gimp
23-04-2007, 16:31:39
This should get some fights going

Scabrous Birdseed
23-04-2007, 18:13:47
It's the Fender Precision bass.

Debaser
24-04-2007, 03:15:14
This is a silly poll. I voted Jaguar 'cos they're the prettiest.

Lazarus and the Gimp
24-04-2007, 05:25:48
What's silly about it? These things matter, damn your little monkey eyes.

Lazarus and the Gimp
24-04-2007, 05:26:55
Originally posted by Scabrous Birdseed
It's the Fender Precision bass.

That's not a guitar. Bassists aren't guitarists.

Scabrous Birdseed
24-04-2007, 07:45:19
It is and they are. "Bass Guitar".

Funko
24-04-2007, 07:52:12
I voted other, my guitar is the greatest. It's a Godin LGX-SA. Debate over.

Tizzy
24-04-2007, 08:05:14
I also voted other. My Ibanez Jem 5 series.

Bob
24-04-2007, 08:07:11
I like my Telecaster best. I also like the Les Paul, but the Telecater is more simple, therefore better

Lazarus and the Gimp
24-04-2007, 16:38:48
Originally posted by Scabrous Birdseed
It is and they are. "Bass Guitar".

Bass Guitar
Air Guitar
Cheese Guitar
Anyone with "Guitar" in their name

All have "guitar" in their names, and are not actually guitars.

Lazarus and the Gimp
24-04-2007, 16:40:19
I'm voting Les Paul. So much weight in such little surface area = most effective weapon. QED- most rock'n'roll, and therefore the best. This is science.

Lazarus and the Gimp
24-04-2007, 16:42:03
Telecasters have to have bits pulled off them before you can play them properly. Anyway, if simplicity rules, then the best guitar is no guitar at all, in which case you agree with Scabby and that means you're obviously wrong.

Scabrous Birdseed
24-04-2007, 18:59:14
It's the same shape as an electric guitar, contains almost exactly parts as an electric guitar and works on exactly the same principle as a guitar. That's more than can be said for, say, the Baritone Saxophone which I'm sure you have no problem classifying as a sax.

Lazarus and the Gimp
25-04-2007, 05:18:05
It's the same shape as an electric guitar, contains almost exactly parts as an electric guitar and works on exactly the same principle as a guitar.


Just like a six-stringed lute, or a banjo with pick-ups. They're not guitars either.

Funko
25-04-2007, 07:54:38
A double bass is also a violin.

Scabrous Birdseed
25-04-2007, 09:31:39
Do you know why it's called a "double bass"? Because it's tuned two octaves lower than the main instrument in the family, the violin.

The thing is, I think Laz is perfectly willing to accept an acoustic guitar which works on a totally different sound-producing principle, but not an electric bass guitar which is considerably more similar in function. I'd quite like to see his definition of a "guitar" then - it's apparently based on tuning only, but wait, it's possible to tune a guitar differently isn't it?

Funko
25-04-2007, 09:52:50
It's also a fuck of a lot bigger.

A bass guitar is a different size, has a different neck length and fret spacing. You can't put bass strings on a guitar, to allow you to tune it that low, because it'd snap the neck. If you tuned normal guitar strings as low as a bass is tuned they'd be unplayably flappy. You could probably put guitar strings on a bass but the intonation would be all wrong.

The difference is not just tuning, it's a different instrument (in the same family).

Scabrous Birdseed
25-04-2007, 10:23:23
Right, which of the following are guitars then?

a) a classical spanish guitar

b) a resonator guitar

c) a lap steel guitar

d) a pedal steel guitar

e) a tenor guitar

f) a baritone guitar?

Scabrous Birdseed
25-04-2007, 10:25:06
oh and g) a 12-string guitar?

h) a seven-string guitar?

i) an eight-string guitar?

Funko
25-04-2007, 10:28:03
a) a classical spanish guitar - Guitar

b) a resonator guitar - Guitar

c) a lap steel guitar - Not Guitar

d) a pedal steel guitar - Not Guitar

e) a tenor guitar - Not Guitar

f) a baritone guitar -Not Guitar

Scabrous Birdseed
25-04-2007, 10:28:30
j) a MIDI guitar/guitar synthesizer?

Funko
25-04-2007, 10:29:32
g) a 12-string guitar? - Not Guitar

h) a seven-string guitar? - Guitar

i) an eight-string guitar? - Guitar

I cannot look at the word guitar now and see it spelt correctly.

Funko
25-04-2007, 10:31:35
j) If it's a proper guitar that can also have midi output, eg. Godin XTSA - Guitar, else Not Guitar.

Scabrous Birdseed
25-04-2007, 10:34:38
No, it's a fucking strange word isn't it?

Funko
25-04-2007, 10:35:15
It is.

Funko
25-04-2007, 10:36:12
On the 'types of guitar thing' the Classical/Spanish guitar is the basis. Anything else is only judged on it's guitarness in relation to that.

Scabrous Birdseed
25-04-2007, 10:55:47
If that's the epitome of a guitar then that's clearly also the greatest guitar and this poll is moot.

Funko
25-04-2007, 10:57:34
Not at all, no more than the Wright brothers produced the greatest ever aeroplane.

Scabrous Birdseed
25-04-2007, 10:59:21
Do you rate "airoplaneness" in relation to the Kitty Hawk?

Funko
25-04-2007, 11:02:44
Yes. Is it a powered wing based flying machine? Ok, it's an aeroplane.

Scabrous Birdseed
25-04-2007, 11:22:52
That's a definition, not a relation to a known object. What's the definition of guitar?

Funko
25-04-2007, 11:51:05
How about:

A musical instrument, member of the guitar family with a flat-backed rounded body that narrows in the middle, a long fretted neck, and usually six strings, played by strumming or plucking and designed to have the A string tuned to 440Hz in standard tuning.

Which means I can actually change a 12 string to a Guitar. It was borderline.

Greg W
25-04-2007, 12:10:39
Originally posted by Funko
that narrows in the middleGuitar novice here, but Electric guitars don't necessarily narrow in the middle do they?

Eklektikos
25-04-2007, 12:19:36
Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
This should get some fights going
Laz is truly a modern day prophet.

We're all fucked.

Funko
25-04-2007, 12:36:57
Other is kicking arse with 2 votes

Fistandantilus
25-04-2007, 13:11:31
I can't play a guitar. Can I vote?

Eklektikos
25-04-2007, 13:30:09
Oh, and my vote goes to the Travis Bean TB1000A.

Scabrous Birdseed
25-04-2007, 13:30:50
Actually, my entire Bass Guitar debate thing is partly to make Laz happy, he was compaining his threads never get posts in this forum.

Now that we've established that the bass is not a guitar, time for the obvious follow-up:

Which is the greater instrument, the guitar or the bass?

Tizzy
25-04-2007, 13:31:34
That requires a new poll

Scabrous Birdseed
25-04-2007, 13:44:22
I'll make one right now.

Immortal Wombat
25-04-2007, 15:16:23
I like the cheese guitar idea.

Funko
25-04-2007, 15:37:08
That's the grate-est.

Lazarus and the Gimp
25-04-2007, 18:37:59
Originally posted by Scabrous Birdseed

The thing is, I think Laz is perfectly willing to accept an acoustic guitar which works on a totally different sound-producing principle,


Does that explain why I didn't include any as options in the poll?

Lazarus and the Gimp
25-04-2007, 18:39:48
Originally posted by Funko
A bass guitar is a different size, has a different neck length and fret spacing. You can't put bass strings on a guitar, to allow you to tune it that low, because it'd snap the neck. If you tuned normal guitar strings as low as a bass is tuned they'd be unplayably flappy.


Duane Eddy managed it.

mr_B
05-05-2009, 20:43:21
I voted les Paul.

protein
05-05-2009, 20:54:59
for a change i agree with scabby. bass is better than guitar and fender precisions are the best basses i've recorded.

if bass isn't allowed i'll go for strat for recording and jaguar for looks.

Resource Consumer
24-05-2009, 17:49:15
my old Yamaha SG1000 blasts the hell out of any true LP I have ever tried.