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FunkyFingers
30-04-2002, 14:00:09
Who here has read the Philip Pullman "Dark Materials" Trilogy:

Northern Lights
The Subtle Knife
The Amber Spyglass?

These are geniunely superb books, and he rightly has won awards for them. However, he won the biggest award for the Amber Spyglass, which I personally think is the weakest novel of the three. It was the largest in scope and had the big climactic battles, but the cleverness, wonder and atmosphere, and dare I say it, spirituality of the first two was not as marked.

Still, thoroughly good books and very clever. I loved the daemons concept, and the many worlds theory was really well done.

FunkyFingers
07-05-2002, 15:22:07
So none of you twats has read any of these 3 books? :confused:

Luddites :hmm:

Sean
07-05-2002, 16:29:16
No. Any book that gets rave reviews sets my Over-rate-o-meter into overdrive.

FunkyFingers
07-05-2002, 16:33:01
Well, douse your meter and read them.

Sean
07-05-2002, 16:48:30
It was burned after Harry Potter. This is why I rarely buy new books.

FunkyFingers
08-05-2002, 08:21:10
Harry Potter has nothing on the Dark Materials Trilogy. Believe me. Just buy the first one - Northern Lights, and read it.

Funkodrom
08-05-2002, 08:36:45
Named after the really crazy skunk?

Noisy
08-05-2002, 08:43:17
Philip Pullman was on Radio 4 this morning. He was taking part in a really pointless discussion about the way that scientists are represented in literature.

Funkodrom
08-05-2002, 08:50:39
Like Bruce Banner and Peter Parker you mean?

Funkodrom
25-06-2002, 15:58:46
Just started reading the first one today. Pretty interesting so far.

Darkstar
26-06-2002, 05:47:19
Scientists wish they were represented like Bruce Banner and Peter Parker!

Lazarus and the Gimp
26-06-2002, 07:31:38
They're kids books, aren't they?

Sean
26-06-2002, 07:43:48
So is Alica in Wonderland, and that is fantastic.

Funkodrom
26-06-2002, 08:54:22
Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
They're kids books, aren't they?

I don't see any reason why kids couldn't read them too.

FunkyFingers
26-06-2002, 08:54:49
Originally posted by Funkodrom
Just started reading the first one today. Pretty interesting so far.

Nice one. The first one is really dark and moody, great book.

Funkodrom
26-06-2002, 10:09:39
Yeah, it is really good.

FunkyFingers
26-06-2002, 10:47:25
Excellent, glad you're enjoying it. I think they're fantastic books. More people should read them.

Funkodrom
27-06-2002, 08:53:57
Getting to the finale now,excellent stuff!!!

FunkyFingers
27-06-2002, 08:57:46
Have you got the other 2 books? I noticed in Waterstones they had all 3 of the books in a 3for2 offer.

Funkodrom
27-06-2002, 09:14:48
Have they? Shit. I picked it up in Birmingham station on my way to Shropshire. I'll get the others soon (Try and get them in the 2 for 10 if they are in it)

FunkyFingers
27-06-2002, 09:24:47
I really like the parallel-technologies, and that thing that predicts the future, that's damned intrigueing. Plus the whole concept of the daemon is very well done.

Funkodrom
27-06-2002, 09:26:26
Yeah, parallel it's not just the parallel tech though, also the parallel culture and nations. Really good stuff. Very convincing world as well despite being so different.

Better than Potter.

FunkyFingers
27-06-2002, 09:34:48
Much better than Potter, it's in a different league. It's very thought provoking too I think.

Funkodrom
27-06-2002, 10:09:48
Absolutely.

FunkyFingers
27-06-2002, 10:40:33
The 2nd book is just as good, possibly even darker in mood actually.

Funkodrom
28-06-2002, 08:53:38
Finished it today. Have to get the next book soon... possibly on the way home tonight.

FunkyFingers
28-06-2002, 09:20:50
Great book innit - I thought the ending was fab.

Funkodrom
28-06-2002, 09:29:32
Yeah I love the way the characters aren't clear cut good or evil.

There's a lot of magic\religious particle physics which is really cool.

Sean
28-06-2002, 09:33:26
Originally posted by Funkodrom
Yeah I love the way the characters aren't clear cut good or evil.
Congratulations, you have read a non-scifi/fantasy book, many of which have characters who act like real people.

FunkyFingers
28-06-2002, 10:06:57
Originally posted by Sean

Congratulations, you have read a non-scifi/fantasy book, many of which have characters who act like real people.

Durgh, suggest you read the book!

Sean
28-06-2002, 10:08:15
Damned, wasn’t quite the obvious response. Can I 100-0 anyway?

Funkodrom
28-06-2002, 10:30:25
Yes Sean, I know that and I could describe it better but Funky knows what I'm talking about and it'd spoil the end of the book for anyone who hasn't read it.

FunkyFingers
28-06-2002, 10:53:32
Quite right!

FunkyFingers
03-07-2002, 15:29:01
Funko, you started reading The Subtle Knife yet? I think it's even better than the first one, much darker, bigger scope, and really clever.

Funkodrom
03-07-2002, 15:32:09
Yeah, nice pictures on the sides of the pages to indicate which universe you are in.

It's very clever.

FunkyFingers
03-07-2002, 15:42:09
Yeah, that's a great little idea. Fantastic use of the many worlds theory.

Funkodrom
09-07-2002, 10:03:23
Started book 3 today. I love the way the story snowballs into such an epic...

FunkyFingers
09-07-2002, 10:39:30
Blimey, you're ripping through them!

Book two was really dark I thought. Book 3 is a real epic

Funkodrom
09-07-2002, 11:01:52
I'm only reading them on the train, otherwise it'd be one a day. I need to make them last, I can't afford that many books. They are very, very good.

Sean
09-07-2002, 11:08:35
Originally posted by Funkodrom
I need to make them last, I can't afford that many books.
Same here :(. It’s so depressing when you buy a new book and finish it the same day.

Funkodrom
09-07-2002, 11:16:24
It is if it's one of those books you don't want to end.

Sean
09-07-2002, 11:18:06
I only buy good books :nervous:.

Funkodrom
09-07-2002, 11:21:05
I only buy good books, I borrow trashy train journey fillers from my parents. :D

FunkyFingers
11-07-2002, 11:22:28
Got to the really crazy bit yet?

Funkodrom
11-07-2002, 11:37:41
It's all really crazy but not more than normal so I'll have to say no to that.

FunkyFingers
11-07-2002, 13:06:40
There's far more crazy stuff to come.

I really quite liked the alternate world stuff in the 3rd book - that species based upon a symbiotic relationship with the lifecycle of that particularly nutty tree, very creative!