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Scabrous Birdseed
06-03-2007, 08:44:17
Post quiz questions about music, chart mechanics, silly artist trivia, whatever here and try to stump or titilate your fellow posters.

I'll start off with an easy one:

Which chart-topping act took their name from a faction in a very, very geeky tabletop wargame?

Fergus & The Brazen Car
06-03-2007, 10:14:49
The Human League

Mr. Bas
06-03-2007, 11:25:59
So, now the idea is that Fergus asks a new question, right?

Scabrous Birdseed
06-03-2007, 11:29:17
Or someone else, I guess. The Football quiz thread worked pretty well with chaotic questioning.

Fergus & The Brazen Car
06-03-2007, 11:48:52
Which singer/songwriter was so delighted by the joys of Widnes they wrote a song about their experiences there ?

Gramercy Riffs
06-03-2007, 12:09:06
Paul Simon?

Or was that Wigan...hmm...

*End Is Forever*
06-03-2007, 14:22:08
I thought Simon's song was about wanting to leave Widnes...

King_Ghidra
07-03-2007, 09:26:51
perhaps fergus was employing a non-literal tone. anyway gramercy is right according to google.

Gramercy Riffs
07-03-2007, 09:58:03
Yeah, Homeward Bound I believe.

ok, who was the last band/artist to have a song at #1 and #2 at the same time in the UK charts?

Mr. Bas
07-03-2007, 10:07:26
A wild guess: Robbie Williams.

Gramercy Riffs
07-03-2007, 10:09:50
Very wild :lol:


No.

Scabrous Birdseed
07-03-2007, 10:12:29
There was that spate of Elvis singles released once a month a few years ago, a couple of which reached number one right? So I'm gonna go with Elvis Presley.

Gramercy Riffs
07-03-2007, 10:55:31
Nope

King_Ghidra
07-03-2007, 11:34:58
i'm going to guess it hasn't happened for ages

so....the beatles

Mr. Bas
07-03-2007, 11:42:03
The Spice Girls then?

Gramercy Riffs
07-03-2007, 11:50:47
No and no (though the Beatles obviously did, quite a few times I think)

the clue is in the question. "band/artist"

Scabrous Birdseed
07-03-2007, 11:53:10
Okay... Let's go for famous deaths then, cause I can't think of any other singles released before the last one's chart run peaked for the past twenty years or so.

John Lennon?

Gramercy Riffs
07-03-2007, 11:54:34
nope.

Actually, it was the US charts, not the UK sorry, so now Im not sure the question is correct. Hmmm

Greg W
07-03-2007, 11:56:45
Hmm. Michael Jackson and the Jackson 5?

Scabrous Birdseed
07-03-2007, 11:57:34
Ah that makes a huge difference.

Gramercy Riffs
07-03-2007, 11:57:36
Anyway, the one Im referring to was in the 80's. Don't know if anyone has done it in the US since then, though I suspect so cos the charts there are retarded nowadays.

Gramercy Riffs
07-03-2007, 12:01:22
Not Michael Jackson

Scabrous Birdseed
07-03-2007, 12:03:19
Ashanti did in 2002. I thought I remembered it as soon as you changed the country and Google confirms it.

Greg W
07-03-2007, 12:05:01
Hmm. Stevie Nicks/Fleetwood Mac?

(or am I on the wrong track?)

Gramercy Riffs
07-03-2007, 12:05:49
Ok, so as I suspected.

Well the one I have in mind did'nt actually record both songs, so its still a relevant question I suppose.

It's very easy now.

Greg W
07-03-2007, 12:08:08
Dylan?

Gramercy Riffs
07-03-2007, 12:09:28
No.

C'mon, think of someone who writes songs for other people as well as records thier own.

Greg W
07-03-2007, 12:10:59
Yeah, the problem is the "in the 80s" part, linked with my dodgy memory. :cute:

Gramercy Riffs
07-03-2007, 12:11:57
I see Debaser is here now, he'll get it.

I am suprised no-one has..

Scabrous Birdseed
07-03-2007, 12:18:09
(By the way, apparently it's happened five times since Ashanti with the "weird new charts", in order Nelly, OutKast, 50 Cent, Mariah Carey and Akon, three months ago. None for twenty years before her, though.)

Gramercy Riffs
07-03-2007, 12:19:06
Right, you get 2 clues cos I fucked the question up really.

Clue 1 - Michael Jackson was close

Clue 2 - the song at number 1 was this bands/persons own song that they recorded. the song at number 2 was recorded by another person/band.

Greg W
07-03-2007, 12:23:51
:lol:

I would guess Janet, but I don't think you mean that close, and I don't think she wrote for other people.

Joe Jackson? (that's a stab in the dark)

Nevermind - according to Wiki he never had a #1 (anywhere)...

Gramercy Riffs
07-03-2007, 12:29:48
ok, answer time.

Prince

Greg W
07-03-2007, 12:33:25
See, I wasn't aware that he wrote for anyone else. Never was a massive fan of his.

Gramercy Riffs
07-03-2007, 12:34:33
On the week "Kiss" hit #1 on the Billboard Hot 100 chart, Manic Monday - a song written by Prince under the alias "Christopher" and performed by The Bangles was at #2.

He also wrote Nothing Compares 2U, the talented bastard.

Mr. Bas
07-03-2007, 12:49:56
I never would have guessed either, although I knew he wrote 'Nothing compares 2U'.

King_Ghidra
07-03-2007, 13:24:55
Ok here's my question, name the following musicians from the manner of their deaths (some of these are literal and some a bit tricksy):

1) Shot onstage by a fan

2) Shot outside home by a fan

3) Shot by his father

4) Death by masturbation

5) Drowned in a swimming pool

6) Drowned in the mississipi

7) Suicide caused by watching German films

8) AIDS/Pneumonia #1

9) AIDS/Pneumonia #2

10) Sold his soul to the devil

(By the way this took ages to compile, i hope someone doesn't get them all in 5 mins)

Mr. Bas
07-03-2007, 13:28:14
1. Dimebag Darrell
2. John Lennon
3. Marvin Gaye
5. Keith Moon
6. Jeff Buckley?
8. Freddy Mercury?
10. Robert Johnson (or Euronymous)

Gramercy Riffs
07-03-2007, 13:28:53
2) Lennon

3) Marvyn Gaye?

8) or 9) Freddie!!

10) Leadbelly?

Gramercy Riffs
07-03-2007, 13:29:34
oh 5) could be Brian Jones

King_Ghidra
07-03-2007, 13:36:15
Correct so far:

1) Dimebag Darrell
2) John Lennon
3) Marvin Gaye

5) Brian Jones
6) Jeff Buckley


9) Freddie Mercury
10) Robert Johnson

Gramercy Riffs
07-03-2007, 13:37:32
7) Ian Curtis perhaps? (though not strictly true if it is!!)

King_Ghidra
07-03-2007, 13:37:46
Originally posted by Mr. Bas

5. Keith Moon

apparently an OD/choked on vomit

King_Ghidra
07-03-2007, 13:38:08
Originally posted by Gramercy Riffs
7) Ian Curtis perhaps? (though not strictly true if it is!!)

Yep :D

King_Ghidra
07-03-2007, 13:39:07
That just leaves:

4) Death by masturbation


and

8) AIDS/Pneumonia #1

Scabrous Birdseed
07-03-2007, 13:52:06
#4 is surely Michael Hutchence

#8 could be Divine or Sylvester basically any other gay musician of the eighties.

King_Ghidra
07-03-2007, 13:55:31
correct on #4.

You might be right on the AIDS point. I'll give a clue, this was the most famous first death by this method for this musician's genre.

King_Ghidra
07-03-2007, 13:59:54
oh and it was a hetero artist too

Gramercy Riffs
07-03-2007, 14:45:51
Eazy E

Scabrous Birdseed
07-03-2007, 14:53:25
Oh yeah.

Okay, I'll give you a few more deaths to ponder, somewhat more tricky ones among them:

#11 - Shot by a hotel manager while drunkenly chasing after one-night-stand.

#12 - Sudden heart failure fueled by alcohol, morphine and vitamin B12, unnoticed for six hours.

#13 - Brain failure after nine years in coma.

#14 - Plane crash, two years after barely surviving car crash.

#15 - Brain tumor brought on by domestic abuse.

#16 - Overdose of antidepressant medication.

#17 - Playing Russian Roulette.

#18 - Hanged himself in the garden shed in a direct reflection of bandmate's death eight years before.

#19 - Tsunami.

#20 - Shot by little brother in jealous murder-suicide.

Mr. Bas
07-03-2007, 14:56:22
I'll have to think about it... I only know #19, it's the singer of Nasum whose name I can't remember. It sounded Polish though.

Gramercy Riffs
07-03-2007, 14:58:33
11) Sam Cooke?

Mr. Bas
07-03-2007, 14:58:54
Also, is #14 Randy Rhoads by any chance?

King_Ghidra
07-03-2007, 14:59:45
i was reading about the russian roulette one while researching my original question.

Someone from The Band was it?

Scabrous Birdseed
07-03-2007, 15:05:15
#11 is Sam Cooke and #19 is Mieszko Talarczyk.

No on #14 although if I'd read about it "died in plane crash because drunken pilot attempted to 'buzz' tour bus and instead crashed into it" would have been a shoe-in entry.

Mr. Bas
07-03-2007, 15:25:23
I can think of a number of artists who died in a plane crash, I can't link a car crash to any of them though. Hmmm. John Denver? Ritchie Valens? Buddy Holly? Aaliyah?

Scabrous Birdseed
07-03-2007, 15:28:52
No/No/No/No, although the level of fame is roughly the same.

Mr. Bas
07-03-2007, 15:42:39
I seem to remember Jim Morrison died of something alcohol related, so I pick him for # 12.

Scabrous Birdseed
07-03-2007, 15:45:09
An additional clue for #12 is that someone was with him for the entire six hours - they thought he was sleeping.

Funko
07-03-2007, 16:07:36
Is that Hendrix then? I realise this could be a retarded answer, missed most of the thread.

Scabrous Birdseed
07-03-2007, 16:18:45
Nope.

It's vague, I guess, because it's a really, really famous musician.

Gramercy Riffs
07-03-2007, 16:41:01
John Entswhistle?

Funko
07-03-2007, 16:55:02
Really, really famous in a way Hendrix isn't?!

:eek:

Mr. Bas
07-03-2007, 17:00:48
Janis Joplin?

Mr. Bas
07-03-2007, 17:01:19
Oops, I just saw you said he. Never mind.

Tau Ceti
07-03-2007, 17:01:48
#16 - Billy Mackenzie?

Mr. Bas
07-03-2007, 17:09:01
Isn't 16 Nick Drake?

Scabrous Birdseed
07-03-2007, 18:17:26
Originally posted by Funko
Really, really famous in a way Hendrix isn't?!

:eek:

Huge, towering mythological fame, at least in certain circles. I guess about the same level as Henrix really.

#16 is Nick Drake, correct.

Scabrous Birdseed
07-03-2007, 18:26:06
Okay, futher clues for the rest of the entries:

#13 had a posthumous UK number one single.

#14 Scored her biggest hits between the car crash and the plane crash.

#15 One connection with a musician brought her fame, another brought her death.

#17 Pre-rock'n'roll era.

#18 I guess he couldn't live without him.

#20 Okay, this one is more obscure than the rest. The man concerened was the acknowledged master of a certain instrument, and "played" it on one of the most well-known hits of the nineties many years after his most prolific period.

Mr. Bas
07-03-2007, 18:37:35
A mate of mine suggests Bon Scott for #12... That'll be my last guess for today.

Scabrous Birdseed
07-03-2007, 19:09:33
Nope. It's a fair guess, though, and both deaths happened in cars.

novacane
07-03-2007, 19:26:33
Originally posted by King_Ghidra
10) Robert Johnson

Another rumoured cause of death is that his he was given a poisoned whiskey by a fellow whose broad Johnson had been a-smooching. Thus, Johnson succumbed to his two greatest vices. Whiskey and women. Of course, it might have been the devil thing.

I don't know anything about these others.

Debaser
07-03-2007, 20:47:31
17 - Playing Russian Roulette.
The Late Great Johnny Ace!!!!

Scabrous Birdseed
07-03-2007, 21:03:14
Correct. Always and Forever.

Lazarus and the Gimp
07-03-2007, 21:52:37
13- Jackie Wilson

15- Tammi Terrell

18- Tom "Badfinger" Evans

Scabrous Birdseed
07-03-2007, 22:36:24
Yup on all three.

Mr. Bas
08-03-2007, 10:38:16
Another suggestion for 12: is it John Bonham?

Funko
08-03-2007, 10:43:33
Is 14 Aaliyah then?

Scabrous Birdseed
08-03-2007, 10:44:58
No, sorry.

#12 and #14 are the same genre and probably the two most famous early deaths in that genre.

Funko
08-03-2007, 11:08:04
Patsy Klein? (14)

Scabrous Birdseed
08-03-2007, 11:18:03
Patsy Cline is correct for #14.

Mr. Bas
08-03-2007, 11:23:09
Hank Williams?

King_Ghidra
08-03-2007, 11:25:00
so it's a country singer for #12 then

Scabrous Birdseed
08-03-2007, 11:40:00
Hank Williams is correct for #12.

All that leaves is #20, which frankly none of you are gonna get so I might as well post it. It's Roger Troutman, master of the voicebox (you know that vocoder-like instrument with the blowing tube). He used to be the lead "singer" of Zapp and had several big hits back in the eighties. The nineties hit he was featured on was "California Love" by Tupac and Dr Dre, a few years before his little brother Larry (a fellow Zapp member) went insane and shot him.

Bring new questions!

Mr. Bas
08-03-2007, 12:58:16
1. Who recorded the track Ifwhiteamericatoldthetruthforonedayitsworldwouldfa llapart?

2. By what artist is the album 'When the Pawn Hits the Conflicts He Thinks like a King What He Knows Throws the Blows When He Goes to the Fight and He'll Win the Whole Thing Fore He Enters the Ring There's No Body to Batter When Your Mind Is Your Might So When You Go Solo. You Hold Your Own Hand and Remember That Depth Is the Greatest of Heights and If You Know Where You Stand. Then You'll Know Where to Land and If You Fall It Won't Matter, Cuz You Know That You're Right.'?

3. Whose first names include Aliaune Damala Bouga Time Puru Nacka Lu Lu Lu Badara?

4. What album by what band features the track 'Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together in a Cave and Grooving with a Pict'?

5. What musical film featured Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious?

Scabrous Birdseed
08-03-2007, 13:05:59
3. Akon

Funko
08-03-2007, 13:14:13
5. Mary Poppins - Rock'n'Roll

Funko
08-03-2007, 13:14:54
4. Is Pink Floyd, but I don't know the album. :(

Mr. Bas
08-03-2007, 13:18:06
All correct, so far.

King_Ghidra
08-03-2007, 13:25:20
1. is the manic street preachers

Mr. Bas
08-03-2007, 13:28:55
Also correct. That leaves #2 and the album for #4.

King_Ghidra
08-03-2007, 13:30:31
i think the album must also be connected to the long name link of the quiz, so i'm guessing its ummawummagumma or whatever it's called

Funko
08-03-2007, 13:51:44
Ummagumma, could be. It's definitely one I don't own.

Scabrous Birdseed
08-03-2007, 13:54:30
I seem to remember reading about #2 in the newspaper recently. It's something fairly new, correct?

Mr. Bas
08-03-2007, 14:28:11
Ummagumma is correct. #2 is by a female singer and was released in the late 90's.

Mr. Bas
08-03-2007, 15:25:10
Also, feel free to pose new questions...

Eklektikos
08-03-2007, 17:37:40
#2 is Fiona Apple, is it not?

Mr. Bas
08-03-2007, 17:45:07
Indeed, it's Fiona Apple. That's all for today I guess...

Lazarus and the Gimp
08-03-2007, 22:35:39
Tour madness!

1- With what species of fish was a Led Zep groupie infamously penetrated?

2- When Ozzy first met Motley Crue, what did he snort?

3- Bad Manners invented the game "chunnelling". What does that involve?

4- How did Julian Cope settle a minor dispute with Dave Balfe during the recording of their third album?

Scabrous Birdseed
08-03-2007, 23:32:44
1 - It was some sort of small shark or dogfish wasn't it?

Greg W
09-03-2007, 03:29:30
I thought it was a Red Snapper?

Mr. Bas
09-03-2007, 08:49:57
An eel?

Funko
09-03-2007, 09:08:01
2 - he bent down to the ground and snorted up a line of ants.

King_Ghidra
09-03-2007, 09:20:43
Originally posted by Greg W
I thought it was a Red Snapper?

Definitely, i was reading about it on the led zep Wiki page a few months back. It's known as the seattle shark incident, but it was a red snapper, because the girl was a redhead and the tour manager said something to the effect of 'how about a red snapper for a red snapper?'

Mr. Bas
09-03-2007, 15:36:35
I just looked number 3 up out of curiosity. I hope that it's not what I think it is, but I fear it is. Fucking gross.

Lazarus and the Gimp
09-03-2007, 17:23:06
1 certainly was a red snapper, while 2 was indeed a line of live ants.

Lazarus and the Gimp
09-03-2007, 22:45:48
OK, here we go.

3- "Chunnelling" involves standing two people back to back, with a sort length of plastic pipe connecting their anuses. They then both defacate, and attempt to force the combined poo back up the loser's bumhole through the power of rectal straining.

4- He chased him all afternoon across the hills with a loaded shotgun, occasionally shooting at him.

Greg W
10-03-2007, 04:38:07
Using the US charts as a guide...

1) Name the most successful Aussie rock band in terms of albums sold?
2) What ranking does this give them in terms of best selling bands in music history? (Bonus points for naming the bands above them)
3) Name their most successful album in terms of chart position?
4) Name their three most successful singles in terms of chart position (Mainstream Rock Charts)?
5) Name their best selling album?

Scabrous Birdseed
10-03-2007, 10:34:02
At a guess:

1) AC/DC
5) Back in Black, can't think what other album it'd be for #3 though.

Greg W
10-03-2007, 11:45:51
Yes to both.

And well, from #2 you can guess it's pretty high. Otherwise I wouldn't ask for all the bands above them. :cute:

Scabrous Birdseed
10-03-2007, 22:03:25
#4 is fairly tricky 'cause the songs you'd hear most on the radio by AC/DC I don't think are their biggest-selling hits. Sports arena anthems "TNT" and "Thunderstruck" predate and antedate their biggest-selling period respectively, right?

Greg W
11-03-2007, 00:50:35
That would be incorrect. One thing to take into account. The band didn't become big in the US until 1979's release of Highway to Hell (which reached #17 in the charts). And of course Bon Scott died the next year.

Scabrous Birdseed
11-03-2007, 01:54:25
"Highway to Hell", then, possibly? :D

Greg W
11-03-2007, 03:59:31
Well, that would be too easy then, wouldn't it? :cute: Let's just say they're all reasonably recent. All post Who Made Who.

As a hint for number 3, they have had a number 1, 2, 3 and 4 ranked album.
#1: ???
#2: The Razor's Edge
#3: Dirty Deeds (Done Dirt Cheap)
#4: Back in Black

Funko
12-03-2007, 09:10:27
Must be For Those About to Rock We Salute You.

Greg W
12-03-2007, 09:34:46
Correct. No way I would have picked it, but there you go.

And seeing as the three singles seem to be causing issues...
- one was written for a film and AFAIK appears only on the soundtrack and as a single
- the other two are also the title of the albums in question

For number 4, c'mon, someone have a guess? :cute:

Mr. Bas
12-03-2007, 09:48:37
4. Highway to Hell, Back in Black, Thunderstruck

Mr. Bas
12-03-2007, 09:50:51
2. I'm going for fourth. The Beatles, Rolling Stones, Michael Jackson?

Greg W
12-03-2007, 10:07:50
4. Incorrect (as I said, all post Who Made Who).

2. Incorrect (close though). Of those, only the Beatles is ahead of them in album sales (don't know if MJ counts in this respect as a group).

Mr. Bas
12-03-2007, 10:39:22
My AC/DC knowledge is not that good, I see. I had to check when Who Made Who was released, and I can still hardly think of any singles that recent, except Stiff Upper Lip. You also mentioned The azor's Edge, so those are my two guesses. Can't think of a third one...

Funko
12-03-2007, 10:43:24
Originally posted by Greg W
Correct. No way I would have picked it, but there you go.

Nor would I without your AC/DC history lesson... it was the album after Highway to Hell wasn't it?

Greg W
12-03-2007, 10:43:25
Stiff Upper Lip is correct, Razor's Edge is not. I think it was in fact the album prior to Stiff Upper Lip...

The song written for a film appeared in Last Action Hero (and I ain't giving a bigger clue than that)...

Greg W
12-03-2007, 10:44:41
Originally posted by Funko
Nor would I without your AC/DC history lesson... it was the album after Highway to Hell wasn't it? Without checking, it would have been Back In Black - their first album post Bon Scott.

Mr. Bas
12-03-2007, 11:17:10
I'm out of ideas for the singles anyway.

2. Third then, behind the Beatles and Elvis Presley?

Greg W
12-03-2007, 12:44:56
Incorrect.

Don't think they count Elvis as a "band". Trust me, from the list I have, don't use examples that weren't bands in the classical sense. :D

Greg W
12-03-2007, 14:13:35
Well, this has dragged on long enough I think. Especially as I am off to Vietnam in 3 days and am not sure how much I'll be on prior to that. :cute:

So...

2) They're rated 5th in total album sales. Behind the Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd and The Eagles.

4) Big Gun (from LAH) and Ballbreaker were the two others.

King_Ghidra
13-03-2007, 14:46:20
After Greg's valiant effort to kill this thread i have returned with some new questions, this time on the theme of literary influences in music:

From the following authors names, name the song which they and their works inspired and the band that performed it.

(There might be multiple answers if people are creative)

1. Lewis Caroll
2. Emily Bronte
3. JRR Tolkien
4. Ernest Hemingway
5. Martin Amis
6. Patrick Suskind
7. H G Wells
8. Alfred Lord Tennyson
9. Leopold von Sacher-Masoch
10. Mikhail Bulgakov

(All of the songs and artists are very famous btw)

Mr. Bas
13-03-2007, 14:55:50
6. Scentless Apprentice - Nirvana
9. Venus in Furs - Velvet Underground

I'll have to think about the others.

Immortal Wombat
13-03-2007, 15:01:12
2. "Wuthering Heights", by Kate Bush
4. Is presumably "For Whom the Bell Tolls" by Metallica.
8. Iron Maiden, either "Rime of the Ancient Mariner" or "The Trooper" (inspired by "The Charge of the Light Brigade")

3. could be practically any fantasy metal band ever, best exemplified in Blind Guardian, although I suppose they aren't famous enough to be the answers KG was looking for.

Mr. Bas
13-03-2007, 15:01:37
3. Burzum - En Ring Til Herske ;)

There's probably plenty of Tolkien-inspired metal around, but I guess you refer to something better known.

Mr. Bas
13-03-2007, 15:02:48
Rime of the Ancient Mariner is based on Coleridge, so is Good Morning, Captain by Slint. I have no idea what Tennyson wrote though. And a good call on Metallica.

Funko
13-03-2007, 15:06:10
7. Devo, Jocko Homo? House of Pain got their name from HG Wells I think

King_Ghidra
13-03-2007, 15:09:08
2, 4, 6, 8 and 9 all right

i have something else for 3 bas, a very famous band

King_Ghidra
13-03-2007, 15:12:31
just to clarify, 8 is for The Trooper as inspired by Charge of the Light Brigade

Immortal Wombat
13-03-2007, 15:13:27
note to self: coleridge is not tennyson.

Immortal Wombat
13-03-2007, 15:15:28
1. "I Am The Walrus" ? There must be tons, but I can't think of anything better.

Mr. Bas
13-03-2007, 15:18:35
3. Turbonegro - Hobbit Motherfuckers

King_Ghidra
13-03-2007, 15:19:02
you're getting there IW, but that's not the one i'm thinking of, which has a very explicit link in the title and throughout the whole song

King_Ghidra
13-03-2007, 15:21:38
Originally posted by Mr. Bas
3. Turbonegro - Hobbit Motherfuckers

:lol:

i have something else for 3 bas, a very famous band

Mr. Bas
13-03-2007, 15:23:08
:D

Funko
13-03-2007, 15:23:38
I thought Devo was gonna be right. :(

is 1. Who the fuck is Alice by Roy Chubby Brown?

Mr. Bas
13-03-2007, 15:26:59
I think 3 must be something like Sabbath, but I can't think of any particular Tolkien inspired song... It's not The Wizard or Black Sabbath or something, right?

King_Ghidra
13-03-2007, 15:28:36
:lol: sorry no funko.

bas you're on the right track with the sabbath, but it's not them

Just to recap, here's what's left:

1. Lewis Caroll
2. Emily Bronte - Wuthering Heights, Kate Bush
3. JRR Tolkien
4. Ernest Hemingway - For whom the Bell Tolls, Metallica
5. Martin Amis
6. Patrick Suskind - Scentless Apprentice, Nirvana
7. H G Wells
8. Alfred Lord Tennyson - The Trooper, Iron Maiden
9. Leopold von Sacher-Masoch - Venus In Furs, Velvet Underground
10. Mikhail Bulgakov

Funko
13-03-2007, 15:33:10
About half of Led Zepplin songs are supposed to be at least partially Tolkein inspired. Misty Mountain Hop, Battle of Evermore, Ramble On...

Funko
13-03-2007, 15:34:25
That Devo song is from a chant in a film of The Island of Dr Moreau though, at least it is according to the liner notes of my best of Devo album...

The "are we not men? we are devo" bit.

King_Ghidra
13-03-2007, 15:42:34
Originally posted by Funko
About half of Led Zepplin songs are supposed to be at least partially Tolkein inspired. Misty Mountain Hop, Battle of Evermore, Ramble On...

And for 3. I had Ramble On by Led Zeppelin :D

King_Ghidra
13-03-2007, 15:43:22
i'm not arguing with the devo one either but i had a different one.

Mr. Bas
13-03-2007, 15:46:18
Oh, I wouldn't have guessed. I'm not much of a Led Zep fan, let alone that I would know what songs like Ramble On are about.

King_Ghidra
13-03-2007, 15:47:33
i have no idea what it's about either but it has a bunch of lyrics going on about mordor and stuff :D

King_Ghidra
13-03-2007, 15:52:22
i'll wait til tomorrow before i provide any further clues or suchlike , i have a strong suspicion there are posters out there who haven't seen the thread yet but will get some of these right away

Greg W
13-03-2007, 15:52:25
Originally posted by King_Ghidra
After Greg's valiant effort to kill this threadI tried. :cry:

Fistandantilus
13-03-2007, 16:04:28
Originally posted by Immortal Wombat

3. could be practically any fantasy metal band ever, best exemplified in Blind Guardian, although I suppose they aren't famous enough to be the answers KG was looking for.

:mad: Something like "Time stands still (at the Iron Hill)" is famous :mad:

Down with KG and his fucking Led Zep :p

Funko
13-03-2007, 16:10:31
Originally posted by King_Ghidra
i have no idea what it's about either but it has a bunch of lyrics going on about mordor and stuff :D

And meeting Gollum I think... :D

novacane
13-03-2007, 17:48:54
Lewis Carroll - White Rabbit, Jefferson Airplane

Jeff Wayne's War Of The Worlds for one of the others. Was that HG Wells?

Debaser
13-03-2007, 18:07:12
Martin Amis - Blur's Parklife album?

Scabrous Birdseed
13-03-2007, 20:02:09
I'm so annoyed at the last one cause I read about it recently and then I couldn't think of it so I had to look it up. Bah!

King_Ghidra
14-03-2007, 09:15:54
correct on white rabbit and parklife

King_Ghidra
14-03-2007, 09:17:05
1. Lewis Caroll - White Rabbit, Jefferson Airplane
2. Emily Bronte - Wuthering Heights, Kate Bush
3. JRR Tolkien - Ramble On, Led Zeppelin
4. Ernest Hemingway - For whom the Bell Tolls, Metallica
5. Martin Amis - Parklife, Blur
6. Patrick Suskind - Scentless Apprentice, Nirvana
7. H G Wells
8. Alfred Lord Tennyson - The Trooper, Iron Maiden
9. Leopold von Sacher-Masoch - Venus In Furs, Velvet Underground
10. Mikhail Bulgakov

King_Ghidra
14-03-2007, 09:18:31
Originally posted by novacane
Jeff Wayne's War Of The Worlds for one of the others. Was that HG Wells?

that could work but i have a different one in mind, by a very famous band

King_Ghidra
14-03-2007, 09:21:36
scabby you mght as well say what it is, i don't think anyone is going to get it.

King_Ghidra
14-03-2007, 09:24:00
and here's a big clue for the H G Wells one. The singer of the band was one of the answers to my previous deceased musicians quiz.

Scabrous Birdseed
14-03-2007, 09:51:30
"Sympathy for the Devil" by the Stones.

Mr. Bas
14-03-2007, 09:52:19
Queen - the invisible man

Mr. Bas
14-03-2007, 10:00:42
Also, didn't MC Hammer or someone like that do a very bad version of it in the early 90's?

King_Ghidra
14-03-2007, 10:09:58
correct both :D

1. Lewis Caroll - White Rabbit, Jefferson Airplane
2. Emily Bronte - Wuthering Heights, Kate Bush
3. JRR Tolkien - Ramble On, Led Zeppelin
4. Ernest Hemingway - For whom the Bell Tolls, Metallica
5. Martin Amis - Parklife, Blur
6. Patrick Suskind - Scentless Apprentice, Nirvana
7. H G Wells - Invisible Man, Queen
8. Alfred Lord Tennyson - The Trooper, Iron Maiden
9. Leopold von Sacher-Masoch - Venus In Furs, Velvet Underground
10. Mikhail Bulgakov - Sympathy for the Devil, Rolling Stones

I'm going to prep another one today, a themed lyrics quote one i think...

Scabrous Birdseed
14-03-2007, 10:12:40
Can I do another one in the meantime? No problem having two running at once I think.

Musical couplings:

What are the connections between the following pairs of artists, genres, and songs?

a) "Don't Phunk With My Heart" by The Black Eyed Peas and "Move Your Body" by Nina Sky

q), previously known as b) Black Sabbath and Texas

b) "Mony Mony" and "I Think We're Alone Now" by Tommy James and the Shondells (except the obvious one)

c) Rick James and Neil Young

d) "Hungry Heart" by Bruce Springsteen and "Superstition" by Stevie Wonder

e) Steve Earle and Allison Moorer

f) House music and Garage music

Greg W
14-03-2007, 10:20:56
the second b) Both became more famous when they were covered?

f) both are places friends can stay or oyu can write music?

Mr. Bas
14-03-2007, 10:22:45
That'll be the second b) I suppose?

Greg W
14-03-2007, 10:26:15
Edit? What edit? :D

Oh, I think d) may have something to do with the Springsteen song being written after a bad argument with his manager (if I am thinking of the right song). No idea if Superstition by Stevie did though...

Scabrous Birdseed
14-03-2007, 10:35:37
d) is indeed a circumstance of the songwriting, but it's the wrong circumstance.

You're gonna have to be a little more specific for b) - it's true, but there's a more definite instance.

Funko
14-03-2007, 10:57:22
I don't understand the q) b) bit.

Mr. Bas
14-03-2007, 11:05:59
:drekkus:

He first had 2 b)'s, then changed the first into q) instead.

Scabrous Birdseed
14-03-2007, 11:06:42
I had two b)s in the original listing. So I changed one to q) to avoid confusion.

Funko
14-03-2007, 11:11:03
Ah, so 'previously known as' is not part of the question. Cool. Still have no idea.

Greg W
14-03-2007, 12:02:00
The question formerly known as the first b).

Mr. Bas
14-03-2007, 15:48:26
I had to look up who Allison Moorer was, and directly found the answer to your question. I doubt anyone'll know, but I'll refrain from answering for the moment anyway. Still no idea on the others. Does the first involve the same sample or something?

King_Ghidra
14-03-2007, 16:19:14
this quiz is too hard and too vague for me

Mr. Bas
14-03-2007, 16:34:53
Fuck it, I have no idea on any of the questions, I'll just use wikipedia from now on.

Fistandantilus
14-03-2007, 16:48:50
Cheater!!

Mr. Bas
14-03-2007, 16:54:25
I found 4 answers so far, and I never would've guessed any of them. But I won't spoil your fun, go ahead and answer. :beer:

Funko
14-03-2007, 17:26:17
Black Sabbath and Texas

Ozzy was arrested pissing on the Alamo, which is in Texas.

Scabrous Birdseed
14-03-2007, 17:48:03
Okay, okay, I'll sharpen it up a little bit.

a) is an allusional connection
q) is an etymological connection
b) is a set of coincidental mimeses
c) is an occupational overlap
d) is, as previously mentioned, a circumstantial connection
e) is a personal connection
f) is another etymological connection

You should be able to narrow down your guesses from there.

Mr. Bas
14-03-2007, 18:20:38
Are both genres in f) named after the place where they were first played/first became popular? I seem to remember that was the case for house (the warehouse), no idea for garage.

Scabrous Birdseed
14-03-2007, 18:28:08
That's correct. House is named after nightclub The Warehouse in Chicago, Garage after The Paradise Garage in New York.

Mr. Bas
15-03-2007, 09:33:37
Woohoo!

Funko
15-03-2007, 10:01:22
Hmm..

Black Sabbath's name comes from a movie playing at the cinema across the road from where they used to rehearse, did Texas get their name from something similar?

Scabrous Birdseed
15-03-2007, 10:19:06
Yes, from the film "Paris, Texas".

I'm planning an entire round based on band etymologies later, wikipedia has a great page with hundreds of them.

Scabrous Birdseed
16-03-2007, 13:09:44
Okay, more clues, explicit in some cases:

a) What big-hitting eighties band do both songs borrow lyrics from?

b) One cover replaced the other at #1 in the charts. Who were the artists?

c) What professional relationship have the two had?

d) Why were they written?

e) What personal relationship could they possibly have? Come on.

King_Ghidra
16-03-2007, 13:16:46
b) billy idol and tiffany

Scabrous Birdseed
16-03-2007, 17:56:10
Yes on the most boring question. A few wild guesses please?

Lazarus and the Gimp
17-03-2007, 08:47:14
A) They're both shit.

B) They've both dabbled in Satanism

C) They've both briefly featured in the Sisters of Mercy

Scabrous Birdseed
17-03-2007, 10:24:08
C is the closest answer. :D

Scabrous Birdseed
19-03-2007, 16:00:42
Okay, I've obviously asked the wrong level questions to the wrong people. I'll have to rethink what my next set is gonna be like, meanwhile here are the answers:

a) (obvious mistake to post) Both borrow lines from Lisa Lisa & Cult Jam songs.

c) Improbable as it may sound, they used to be in a band together, back before either career took of. They even recorded stuff, but none of it is readily available. More info here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mynah_Birds).

d) Both were originally written for other people, The Ramones and Jeff Beck respectively, but bith artists decided to keep the songs for themselves.

e) They're married.

Okay, K_G, it's your turn to post. Hopefully something better.

King_Ghidra
20-03-2007, 13:37:13
don't be hard on yourself :)

c) impressed me, i'd never heard of that before. That wiki page is rather like the bit in spinal tap where they go over the history of the band.

King_Ghidra
20-03-2007, 15:40:20
BTW, preparing my next one is taking me a bit longer than i thought, so if anyone wants to step up...

Scabrous Birdseed
22-03-2007, 07:56:21
I've got another one written up (:o), I could do it if it's okay by people. I promise it's much better.

Funko
22-03-2007, 09:16:28
I think having these as a fairly informal free for all is fine.

Mr. Bas
22-03-2007, 09:27:29
Bring 'em on!

Scabrous Birdseed
22-03-2007, 09:34:57
Okay, well last time I did a series of vague questions with trivial answers, which didn't work, so instead I'm going to do a series of sharply stated questions that require a deeper understanding to be answered, or at least the ability to guess convincingly. :D

The subject we've touched on several times already, it's the American record charts. Now, the mechanics and machinations of the Billboard chart are fairly interesting and I think the way they've been set up have influenced music more than most people realise, so the questions are going to be based purely on that.

Billboard magazine was not the first entity to publish charts in the United States, but it was a relatively early one and published some kind of "Hit Parade" going back to 1936. In the forties it officialised its main charts and quickly gained a market-dominant position.

Unlike the British charts, which are pure sales charts, the Billboard charts have always included other ways of measuring as well. Today, most of its main charts are based on a combination of the amount of airplay a song gets on the radio with the sales of the related single. 1. What was the third component that used to be part of the pop chart before 1958?

During the forties, Billboard also started venturing into "speciality markets", publishing two charts that were based on the purchases of certain minority audiences. These were originally called the "folk" and "race" charts, but in 1949 the magazine decided to modernise the names, which were seen as prejudiced and old-fashioned. Jerry Wexler, then a young journalist at the magazine, wrote an article rationalising the new names they'd come up with, which combined several terms in order to try to encompass everything within the respective charts. 2. What new, influential, names did Jerry and the team come up with for the two charts?

The three-chart system was dominant well into the sixties, or rather until 1963 when Billboard abruptly decided to stop publshing one of the charts, only to make an equally abrupt about turn little over a year later and start publishing it again. 3. Which chart was it, and for extra credit, why?

The system Billboard uses to calculate these charts is quite weird, and used to be even weirder. To the uninitiated observer, it appears to throw up a lot of strange anomalies. For example, in 1971 "Theme From Shaft" by Isaac Hayes reached #1 in the Hot 100, but only #2 in the Soul Charts. 4. Since you're all obviously initiated, please expain how this was possible. Can you dig it?

One major thing changed less than 20 years ago though. Rick James (yes, him again, bitch!) is occasionally known as "The last major african-american star who was virtually unknown to white audiences", and in 1991 a change in the billboard chart system made sure it stayed that way. 5. What modern-era change to the way the charts were calculated was instrumental in accurately reflecting the tastes of the entire american public? (Ultimately, in 2001, leading to that historical first in which all the top 10 positions were occupied by black people...)

Now we're approaching the modern day when charts are supposedly becoming less relevant and people don't buy records any more. We're gonna cover one last change in the way the charts were counted, based on the success of a number of songs in the nineties. Examples: "Lovefool" by The Cardigans, "Iris" by the Goo Goo Dolls, "Don't Speak" by No Doubt, "Torn" by Natalie Imbruglia, "I'll Be There For You" by The Rembrants and "Basket Case" by Green Day. 6. What do these tracks have in common that caused a major change in the chart rules in 1998?

So, there you have it. The American charts. Surprisingly industry-led, capricious, irrational yet influential. The British Charts make more old-fashioned protestant sense but what's so fun about that?

Funko
22-03-2007, 09:47:14
I don't know anything about the Billboard charts but I feel like I've learnt something just by reading the questions!

Gramercy Riffs
22-03-2007, 10:18:00
Like being back at school

Funko
22-03-2007, 10:20:36
At least school had several hundred teenage girls in uniforms...

Gramercy Riffs
22-03-2007, 10:27:29
Ah, great days

Scabrous Birdseed
22-03-2007, 10:38:26
This is music history geek school though. Very few women around, unfortunately.

Tizzy
22-03-2007, 11:23:10
1. Sheet music sales?

Mr. Bas
22-03-2007, 11:26:32
2. Country and Soul?

I've read about 4 before...

Mr. Bas
22-03-2007, 11:29:39
Ooh, I have an idea for 1. Is it the number of times it's played on jukeboxes?

Scabrous Birdseed
22-03-2007, 12:04:04
Correct! #1 is indeed Jukebox plays.

#2, no. There's a significant clue in the description of the question though.

Funko
22-03-2007, 12:43:39
Was one of them pop?

Mr. Bas
22-03-2007, 12:52:53
Combined several terms, eh? I'm going for R&B in that case.

Scabrous Birdseed
22-03-2007, 13:01:11
Rhythm & Blues is one of them, yes. It's funny how an all-encompassing term for african-american music (ranging from smooth vocal harmonies to gospel to raunchy blues shouting) was considered a single, definable genre by british kids a decade later...

What's the other one? It's also got an ampersand in it.

Mr. Bas
22-03-2007, 13:10:06
Rock and roll? Country and western?

Scabrous Birdseed
22-03-2007, 13:14:06
Country & Western.

That one got shortened to Country, of course, once Western Swing went out of style in the fifties.

Scabrous Birdseed
23-03-2007, 12:27:12
Okay, clues then.

#3 should be fairly straightforward by now - if you mess up just guess again.

For #4 there's a clue in the description of question #2.

When I say "modern-era" in question #5, I don't mean modern in the sense of "recent".

All the songs in question #6 were ineligable to enter the Hot 100 under the rules of the time...

Mr. Bas
23-03-2007, 12:33:14
3. I'm going for the Country & Western chart, because of the decline of Western swing.
4. Obviously the two are calculated by some different method... Do they use different radio stations to determine the amount of airplay?
5. Same kind of answer as the above: they included more/different radio stations or corrected for amount of listeners or something.

Scabrous Birdseed
23-03-2007, 12:36:34
4 is getting there but it's only half the answer.

Wrong on the other two.

Mr. Bas
23-03-2007, 12:46:01
3. The Top 100?
4. The minority audience in question bought some other single more often than 'Theme from Shaft', but overall 'Theme from Shaft' was the biggest seller.

Scabrous Birdseed
23-03-2007, 12:56:22
No, it's still the wrong chart for #3. :D Third time lucky?

For 4, combining your two answers would be correct. Rather than (as you'd expect) subdividing singles into genres, Billboard basically had one chart for each social group, and used the radio stations and shops used by that group as the basis for its chart. So the "Soul" chart in the seventies wasn't a chart of the genre soul but a "what are black people buying and listening to" chart.

Mr. Bas
23-03-2007, 12:59:53
Okay, so is the answer to question 5 that they corrected the above?

3: the R&B chart. :D

Scabrous Birdseed
23-03-2007, 13:14:29
#5, yeah, kinda, and only part-way. But what I'm trying to get at is another factor of the old system which is fairly astounding...

#3 is, finally, correct. The reason is related to question 4 - Billboard thought that the purchasing patterns of the african-american and white majority populations were too similar. You'd think this would be because of the Rock'n'Roll revolution and artists like Chuck Berry and Fats Domino becoming more popular with white audiences, but in fact it was just as much the other way around. Before 1954 only a small handful of white artists managed to crack the top 10 of the R&B charts, but by the end of the decade nearly half of all R&B hits were by white people, with Elvis being particularly big with black audiences and radio stations. In fact, for a while around 1956-58, the Pop, R&B and Country charts would include pretty much the same set of artists...

There was a backlash around 1960, when black artists began to dominate again as the music changed, but of course Billboard were a couple of years behind the times...

Scabrous Birdseed
23-03-2007, 14:08:47
Okay, final clue for #5 - it's a technological change.

King_Ghidra
23-03-2007, 14:30:49
ummm...they used a computer to do the adding up?

Funko
23-03-2007, 14:39:29
They started to use actual listener number data to gague how many people were listening rather than just counting numbers of plays on radio stations irrespective of listener figures?

Scabrous Birdseed
23-03-2007, 14:51:23
A combination of the two, basically.

To be perfectly crass, before 1991 they polled record stores and had them guess which were the best-selling records. Few stores kept proper internal statistics. And, as Funko and Bas indicated they did the same with the radio - took what they percieved to be popular stations and had them guess at the most played songs.

In 1991, they started using bar codes and computers to count the actual sales of a record, thus ensuring that the most popular records were in fact the most popular records. The system was called Nielsen SoundScan and I personally think the rise of hip-hop as the supreme form of popular music in america is closely related to it.

Scabrous Birdseed
23-03-2007, 14:52:50
Okay, that leaves #6 - why were these tracks ineligable to enter the Hot 100, while they were in fact wildly popular?

Funko
23-03-2007, 14:55:33
They were on CD only or something?

Scabrous Birdseed
23-03-2007, 15:02:39
No, although there was a similar thing with the Disco 12" hot 40 where only tracks that appeared as 12" singles were eligible. This is a more fundamental issue.

Debaser
23-03-2007, 15:55:13
Was 1998 the year when they bought in the rule that stated that to be eligable for the charts you were only allowed to have one other original track on your single, plus up to two remixes?

Funko
23-03-2007, 15:56:57
I thought that was a UK chart rule?

Scabrous Birdseed
23-03-2007, 16:04:55
You're allowed to have up to four tracks on a single apparently, and up to nine remixes. No, it's more fundamental still.

Funko
23-03-2007, 16:12:56
They weren't actually released as singles? Just videos on MTV etc.

Scabrous Birdseed
23-03-2007, 16:18:19
Exactly. They all topped the airplay chart, too, but were not allowed to enter the Hot 100 because they hadn't yet been physically released as records. Some of them were later, mind. In 1998 a change was made to allow "album tracks" to enter the chart, at which point all references to "singles" were replaced by "songs".

Great! We got that one done in time for the weekend.

Scabrous Birdseed
28-03-2007, 05:48:29
So, is that new round coming up then or am I the only one keeping this thread alive now?

King_Ghidra
28-03-2007, 08:19:42
i'm halfway through what i wanted to do but have run out of ideas. I'll probably try a different tack.

Greg W
28-03-2007, 08:26:13
I'm happy to try and answer some, though my musical knowledge is slim, so I'm more likely to kill the thread/provide amusement than anything.

Scabrous Birdseed
28-03-2007, 18:22:16
Fine, I'll post another set that I alluded to earlier.

Band etymology quiz

Name the band whose name derives from the following sources. Some are quite easy, some are a bit trickier, and most are probably apocryphal. But hey.

i. A Lesbian sex position.

ii. An anagram of "Cully's Stout Beer" which one of the band members was drinking in a bar.

iii. The Sidekick of Radioactive Man in a well-known Simpsons episode.

iv. The name of a dildo that appears in The Naked Lunch by William S Burroughs.

v. The Omaha, Nebraska police code for "Indecent Exposure".

vi. A typically naive Guardian article about the newly established, Vietnamese-puppet Peoples' Republic of Kampuchea. More specifically, what the government was described as in the title.

vii. An acronym of the initial letters of three major ideologies.

viii. The cute and friendly creatures in the Gremlins movies.

ix. The fact that, according to the drummer, his parents treated their dog better than him.

x. A line in a ritual mayan chant.

xi. A short version of a London neighbourhood.

xii. A US Army term for a million casuaties.

novacane
28-03-2007, 21:08:10
viii. The cute and friendly creatures in the Gremlins movies.

I think this is Mogwai.

Right or wrong, I will bow out with a 100% record.

Mr. Bas
28-03-2007, 22:18:21
i) is the scissor sisters.
ix) the bonzo dog doo dah band or whatever they're called?
x) I know that ...and you will know us by the trail of dead have claimed that their name has come from something mayan, I think they're bullshitting but it's a decent guess.
xii) megadeth.

Some of the others sound familiar. I'll sleep on it.

Immortal Wombat
28-03-2007, 23:42:09
iii. Fallout Boy (? never heard of them)
ix. Less Than Jake (guessing)

Scabrous Birdseed
29-03-2007, 06:02:23
Correct on Mogwai, Scissors Sisters, ...And You'll Know Us By The Trail Of Dead, Megadeth, Fall Out Boy* and Less Than Jake.

*They had a #2 hit in both the UK and the US in january. You might recognise (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FcBnaLjxY4) it.

Mr. Bas
29-03-2007, 09:08:23
v) Blink 182?

Greg W
29-03-2007, 09:47:01
vii: DOA? Daoist, Orthodox, Agnostic? :D
:nervous:

Funko
29-03-2007, 09:53:14
ii. Blue Oyster Cult

King_Ghidra
29-03-2007, 10:19:34
iv) is Steely Dan

King_Ghidra
29-03-2007, 10:21:16
is xi) East 17? :o

Tizzy
29-03-2007, 10:29:54
v. INXS?

Scabrous Birdseed
29-03-2007, 11:32:28
Steely Dan and Blue Oyster Cult is correct.

Scabrous Birdseed
29-03-2007, 11:34:21
East 17 is wrong but it's a good guess as I think their name is based on something similar. No, this is part of the name of a certain part of London.

Funko
29-03-2007, 11:44:51
Yeah, East 17 is the postcode of where the band came form.

v 311?

Scabrous Birdseed
29-03-2007, 12:11:59
311 is correct.