PDA

View Full Version : Weak Willed Vegetarians


Resource Consumer
01-02-2007, 15:37:42
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/6295747.stm

Seems some veggies are getting tempted by organic meat! I particularly enjoyed this bit from a convert

Because I have started eating meat again, but only meat from animals who've enjoyed a happy life before being slaughtered.

That's OK then. Smile before the electric prod and it's alright. Seems that it does not take much to turn round a conviction veggie these days.

Fistandantilus
01-02-2007, 15:55:03
:lol:

They should also only eat fruit from happy trees then.

MoSe
01-02-2007, 15:59:30
only fallen fruits

Drekkus
01-02-2007, 15:59:39
Leave the happy trees alone!! :mad:

MoSe
01-02-2007, 16:00:43
Hey! Vegan! Leave our leaves alone!!!!

Drekkus
01-02-2007, 16:04:05
Leaf our leafs alone!!

MoSe
01-02-2007, 16:10:26
Poor Leif

Resource Consumer
01-02-2007, 16:25:20
Is that Sven Goran's brother?

Scabrous Birdseed
01-02-2007, 17:12:01
It's my father-in-law.

Funko
01-02-2007, 17:19:12
Main reason to eat meat from happy animals is that they tend to taste a lot better. Grown slower, aged more etc.

Drekkus
01-02-2007, 17:20:14
aged more tastes better?

Funko
01-02-2007, 17:21:02
Indeed.

Fistandantilus
01-02-2007, 17:24:02
Old hens make the best soup.

Drekkus
01-02-2007, 17:36:57
we're talking animals here, right, not whiskey.

MDA
01-02-2007, 19:03:32
I just got back from a place called the Bamboo Buffet

I had meat for lunch, I just don't know what kind - breaded and fried with that sweet-hot red sauce

I do know for certain there was a puppy adoption center 3 shops down.

JM^3
01-02-2007, 19:07:08
I don't eat meat because I have never ate meat.. and don't like the thought of it.

How does this refer to me at all. It just refers to certain people who wouldn't eat meat for ethical reasons... and have decided that as long as the animal lived well enough, they were fine with it ethically.

Makes sense to me, I know people who have never been vegeterrian, but who just eat organic meat for ethical reasons.

JM

Fistandantilus
01-02-2007, 19:09:37
You didn't even taste meat??

Snotty
01-02-2007, 19:14:35
organic = killed in the animals old age after its lived a full and fulfilled life?

JM^3
01-02-2007, 19:44:14
Originally posted by Fistandantilus
You didn't even taste meat??

Not on purpose. When I have accidently eaten meat I have felt sick.

JM

JM^3
01-02-2007, 19:45:00
Organic = not kept in a box... allowed to run arround. Not injected with hormones..

JM

Oerdin
01-02-2007, 19:54:19
The sole purpose of having farm animals is so that you can make tasty little morsels out of them. That's the only reason their alive and the humans feed them.

If the price was equal then I would buy the free range meat but the price is never equal and the quality is indistinguishable between the two. I recall a survey done by 30 die hard free range chicken supporters who all claimed free range chicken tasted better. In the blind vote 16 of them voted for the traditional penned chicken. Similiar stuff happens to traditional vs organic beef.

There just isn't a quality difference there is only a price difference and possibly an ethical difference if you care about a chicken being happy. I'm not overly concerned about the chicken beyond it being fresh and tasting good.

JM^3
01-02-2007, 19:55:36
Taste isn't a consideration when you consider ethical...

JM

JM^3
01-02-2007, 19:57:43
And I would fine the hormones very concerning..

I drink milk, and most of it is Organic.

JM

MDA
01-02-2007, 20:21:57
<insert joke about Jon eating the box here>

Tizzy
02-02-2007, 09:40:11
Originally posted by Oerdin
the quality is indistinguishable between the two.

I have to disagree.

Admittedly I can't always taste the difference between free range and intensively farmed meat bought from the supermarket (although I do always buy free range anyway) but compared with the free range/organic bought from the local farmers market they're both bland.

Lamb actually smells like lamb, not the nothingness the supermarket stuff does. You get proper juice to make gravy from a roasted chicken, not mostly water. Eggs taste much richer, and the fruit and veg all taste better and not so bland and watery.

I'm hungry now.

Funko
02-02-2007, 10:33:27
I agree, especially on the free range stuff from the supermarket isn't much different.

Free range and organic mean different things. Free rance chickens can still be your standard fast grown broilers, just allowed more space to live. In the US the Free Range doesn't have a strict definition other than they must have access to the outdoors.

Organic ones tends to be breeds of chicken that take longer to grow to eating size and it's the type of chicken and the fact they grow slower not just the fact that they are organic. You could theoretically raise standard fast growing broilers as organic and they probably wouldn't taste much nicer.

The problem is that your standard broiler can't cope with a 'normal' chicken lifestyle, they are genetically bred to grow incredibly fast and on a normal diet get obese and die.

I would struggle to tell the difference between free range and organic chicken, but I think the difference between organic and battery is pretty surprising.

More on Free Range:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_range

Organic:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_food

Fistandantilus
02-02-2007, 10:51:59
Originally posted by JM^3
Not on purpose. When I have accidently eaten meat I have felt sick.

JM

Wow. I think I couldn't live without meat :D

Nills Lagerbaak
02-02-2007, 11:12:49
I totally rate Abel and Cole organic produce, it rocks.

I have massive issues with intensive farming, it actually makes me feel a little ill.