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Scabrous Birdseed
21-12-2006, 10:37:54
Everyone's favourite nutcase dictator has died:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6198983.stm

He was the last of a dying breed. :violin:

Colon
21-12-2006, 10:39:09
Now, now, we still got Khaddafi.

Scabrous Birdseed
21-12-2006, 10:40:58
Yes, and Kim Jong Il and Lukashenko. And maybe a couple of others. But beyond that, I ask, beyond that? Where are the Baby Docs and the Idi Amins of the next generation? Will our grandchildren have to live in a world where no-one names days of the week after their mothers?

Debaser
21-12-2006, 10:43:00
I like the way the BBC describe his style of government as "bizarre".

Scabrous Birdseed
21-12-2006, 11:02:07
Oh it was. Here are some classics:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3773667.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4177622.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4307583.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3554626.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/2191117.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/2181151.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3137943.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/2482797.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/991719.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3486776.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/2729053.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/2673001.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/1218726.stm

I could probably go on forever.

Funko
21-12-2006, 11:09:07
If MrG ruled a country...

Mr. Bas
21-12-2006, 11:09:42
The man was a genius. RIP, Turkmenbashi. :(

Scabrous Birdseed
21-12-2006, 11:12:06
And I will...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/despatches/40408.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3924585.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6063700.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4190148.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3528746.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3142311.stm

Okay, I'll really stop now.

King_Ghidra
21-12-2006, 11:12:11
That is an absolutely astonishing catalogue of insanity.

I think this quote says it all

It seems like he lives on another planet

- Turkmen man

Lazarus and the Gimp
21-12-2006, 11:16:50
There was a really good article in the Guardian recently about Turkmenistan, and it was actually quite sympathetic. It pointed out that Turkmenistan had no history and little culture to speak of, so Niyazov took the simplest route of creating one around himself.

By the standards of nutty dictators, he was pretty benevolent, and Turkmenistanis had a fairly good standard of living.

King_Ghidra
21-12-2006, 11:18:20
Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
Turkmenistanis had a fairly good standard of living.

That isn't really the message i'm getting from those articles.

No hospitals, healthcare, education, freedom of speech, freedom of expression...

Debaser
21-12-2006, 11:20:37
Haha, that guy's awesome. I feel quite inspired to become a dictator myself, anyone know how you get into something like that?

"President Niyazov of Turkmenistan has ordered the construction of a palace made of ice in the heart of his desert country, one of the hottest on earth."

Lazarus and the Gimp
21-12-2006, 11:21:32
Free electricity. Free gas. Free fuel. It's all relative. Turkmenistan is a backward nation, but it has its good points. Absence of genocides, etc.

Debaser
21-12-2006, 11:23:14
Free Mercedes!

Lazarus and the Gimp
21-12-2006, 11:27:50
Take the neighbouring Uzbekistan, for example. You don't hear stories about wacky dictators from there, but in fact it's a spectacularly nasty regime with a habit of boiling people to death.

King_Ghidra
21-12-2006, 11:33:41
Yeah, well true you can see the rather stunningly twisted paternalistic aims of the guy expressed in his decrees.

Lazarus and the Gimp
21-12-2006, 11:42:49
Niyazov lost his parents when very young, and was brought up in a state orphanage. Psychologically speaking it was very interesting- he really wanted to be a father to his nation. That means doing what Daddy says.

Scabrous Birdseed
21-12-2006, 12:15:20
He wasn't particularly genocidal but considering his paranoia, don't you think it was only a matter of time?

Funko
21-12-2006, 12:17:50
"not particularly genocidal"

That's ok then. The occasional small bit of genocide is fine.

Lazarus and the Gimp
21-12-2006, 12:22:22
Originally posted by Scabrous Birdseed
He wasn't particularly genocidal but considering his paranoia, don't you think it was only a matter of time?

It can't be ruled out, but he certainly wasn't big on enforcement. A number of his big decrees that cut across Turkmen traditions (such as banning gold teeth for women) appear to have been ignored by the public at large.

There also aren't real ethnic divides to cause potential for trouble.

Colon
21-12-2006, 12:22:54
Originally posted by Scabrous Birdseed
Yes, and Kim Jong Il and Lukashenko. And maybe a couple of others. But beyond that, I ask, beyond that? Where are the Baby Docs and the Idi Amins of the next generation? Will our grandchildren have to live in a world where no-one names days of the week after their mothers?

What about Mugabe then? Chavez also has potential if he expands the pirate parrot act.

Scabrous Birdseed
21-12-2006, 12:24:02
Okay, not genocidal at all then. He abolished the death penalty and annually amnestied half the country's prisoners, including political ones.

I'm not quite sure I'd want to live under his rule anyway...

King_Ghidra
21-12-2006, 14:47:32
if you did we wouldn't know anyway, as you'd be an illiterate invalid without internet access

Funko
21-12-2006, 14:48:24
So the difference would be, no internet.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
21-12-2006, 17:46:37
So we wouldn't have met him on the internet?

Drekkus
22-12-2006, 11:17:07
Originally posted by Scabrous Birdseed
And I will...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3142311.stm

Okay, I'll really stop now.
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39388000/jpg/_39388503_turkmenmelon203.jpg
Melons are revered in Turkmenistan

:lol:

WORSHIP THE MELON!!!