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Scabrous Birdseed
15-12-2006, 09:42:44
I'm doing a mixtape for my drummer-wannabe sister-in-law containing only music with good drum tracks. Any suggestions?

King_Ghidra
15-12-2006, 09:48:33
whole lotta love by led zep

Funko
15-12-2006, 10:01:00
Any track from Songs from the Deaf by Queens of the Stone Age. No-one Knows is the classic Air Drumming track off that.

Scabrous Birdseed
15-12-2006, 10:05:04
Will check out both.

A variety of genres is something I'm going for so if you've got a really, really well-drummed track in some totally left-field musical mode I'd love to hear it. For instance, I'm definately putting "Santa Claus Is Coming To Town" by The Crystals on there.

Nills Lagerbaak
15-12-2006, 10:05:30
More of less anything by Slayer! Mandatory Suicide is good!

Debaser
15-12-2006, 10:08:16
Stephen Morris from Joy Division generally played in a pretty interesting and different way to most of his contempories. Of the top of my head I can only really think of She's Lost Control to support this, but there are loads of other good examples.

Nills Lagerbaak
15-12-2006, 10:09:25
Some DJ Shadow? Great hip-hop drumming on his records...Also do you know the "Amen" break? it's available here both looped and in its original context..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amen_break

King_Ghidra
15-12-2006, 10:11:07
is the dj shadow drumming real though or just sampled to hell?

Nills Lagerbaak
15-12-2006, 10:11:59
Well, I'm pretty sure it's real...wait a minute...

Scabrous Birdseed
15-12-2006, 10:12:41
Yes, I know the Amen break. Some classic breakbeat will definately go on there, Either "Amen, Brother", "Apache", "Funky Drummer" or possibly "The Mexican" (best song, dullest drums). Or "Mary Mary" by The Monkees, possibly the most unexpected track to have become a sampling staple.

Nills Lagerbaak
15-12-2006, 10:13:08
:o :o :o :o Shadow's first full-length work, Endtroducing....., was released in late 1996 to immense critical acclaim. Endtroducing would make the Guinness World Records book for "First Completely Sampled Album" in 2001. The only piece of kit Shadow used to produce the album is the AKAI MPC60 12bit sampling drum machine.



Damn he did a good job then!

King_Ghidra
15-12-2006, 10:14:39
:D true true

perhaps something from the first roni size album? tey played all their stuff live didn't they

King_Ghidra
15-12-2006, 10:16:32
Tomorrow Never Knows by the Beatles perhaps?

i remember hearing that when the Chemical Brothers played it at a dj set, some people asked them if it was their new single :D

Nills Lagerbaak
15-12-2006, 10:19:21
What about some Reggae? Has anyone seen "Rockers"?? My favourite reggae track is the one where they are performing in that hotel? I really, really wich I knew the name....

Awesome drumming in it...

Scabrous Birdseed
15-12-2006, 10:19:22
Yeah, like that has live drums! :D

Funko
15-12-2006, 10:19:44
Dave Lombardo (Slayer) is great, but he does more interesting stuff with Fantomas IMO. The Directors Cut is them doing a load of horror themes. Some great stuff on that. Bit experimental/disturbing though.

http://www.myspace.com/fantomasband

I'm assuming you've got the funk/soul angle sewn up already SB?

Nills Lagerbaak
15-12-2006, 10:21:43
Originally posted by Scabrous Birdseed
Yeah, like that has live drums! :D

It has! The films full of reggae stars and he plays the drums right on front of you!

Scabrous Birdseed
15-12-2006, 10:23:26
No I meant Tomorrow Never Knows! Bloody X-posts.

I'll dig through my reggae stuff but I think the best drums are fairly heavily manipulated unfortunately.

Nills Lagerbaak
15-12-2006, 10:25:43
Indeed, indeed

Ah, a bit of research tells me my favourite reggae tune of all time is Tenament Yard by Jacob Miller.

Funko
15-12-2006, 10:26:08
A lot of the songs that my favourite early hip-hop guys sampled - but of course I don't know what that is.

Nills Lagerbaak
15-12-2006, 10:27:51
Ask woosh :D

Scabrous Birdseed
15-12-2006, 10:30:11
Inevitably something off The Ultimate Breaks and Beats series, first edition from 1986. "Amen, Brother" by the Winstons, for instance, has been sampled by just about everyone ever because it is so fucking easy.

Scabrous Birdseed
15-12-2006, 15:09:23
Originally posted by Funko
I'm assuming you've got the funk/soul angle sewn up already SB?

Ish. With really thight rhythm sections sometimes creative drumming is a bit suppressed, and of course from about 1975 it's mostly drum machines. King Curtis's Memphis Soul Stew ("Now I need a pound of fatback drums...") is obvious, but other suggestions are very welcome.

Scabrous Birdseed
15-12-2006, 15:16:11
Maybe some Jazz-Funk? Generally an abhorrent genre, I'd agree, but the drumming is fairly creative. "When I'm kissing My Love" by Cold Blood or something.

Scabrous Birdseed
15-12-2006, 15:21:34
Originally posted by Debaser
Stephen Morris from Joy Division generally played in a pretty interesting and different way to most of his contempories. Of the top of my head I can only really think of She's Lost Control to support this, but there are loads of other good examples.

This track appears to have mechanical drums.

Gramercy Riffs
15-12-2006, 16:04:33
They are live, its just the way its produced by Martin Hannett.

Gramercy Riffs
15-12-2006, 16:07:55
"His distinctive techniques are especially prominent in regard to the band's drum sounds, which are awash in reverb, the icy notes echoing and reverberating through a spare and seemingly vast sonic backdrop".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Hannett

Nills Lagerbaak
15-12-2006, 16:22:55
AH, how could I forget! You want robo-drums> then look no further than fear factory. So tight you would swear it's a machine, but it aint!

Scabrous Birdseed
20-12-2006, 08:34:54
Okay, this will be going to press tonight so if you have any final suggestions, hit me.

Funko
20-12-2006, 08:46:03
Let us know the listing.

Lazarus and the Gimp
20-12-2006, 08:53:05
It's 20 minutes long, but "Yoo Doo Right" by Can has some unbelievable sections by the great Jaki Leibezeit.

Scabrous Birdseed
20-12-2006, 10:15:43
It'd have to be pretty damn good to take up a quarter of the compo! Are there no, er, shorter options?

Scabrous Birdseed
20-12-2006, 10:31:35
I'm ending up cheating a bit (using other peoples' lists) 'cause I wouldn't say a drum track was something I'd usually notice. Pity she isn't a bassist.

Mr. Bas
20-12-2006, 10:49:44
Again a bit more in the metal direction: Tool and Mastodon both have some great drumming. Mastodon is probably not too accessible and they overdo the prog angle a bit every now and then, but it might be nice to include some of Danny Carey's drumming in Tool. Not sure what particular song to recommend, but Ticks and Leeches, The Grudge and Aenema are good examples.

Scabrous Birdseed
20-12-2006, 10:58:18
Are you telling me Mastodon are even more pretentiously progresive than Tool? :eek:

Any Mastodon suggestions?

Mr. Bas
20-12-2006, 11:08:08
They're more extreme certainly, and can be quite prog, but not always. I haven't heard their latest album but it's apparently rather progressive, but what I can recommend is Megalodon, Island and Blood and Thunder, and for wanky proggery, Aqua Dementia and Hearts Alive.

Mr. Bas
20-12-2006, 11:22:20
Maybe some Converge would be nice as well, their drummer (Ben Koller I think) is quite good. Again, picking songs is a bit of a problem as I'm not usually focusing on the drums and I don't have any Converge around atm, but from memory Dark Cloud, Thaw, Last Light and Homewrecker all feature impressive drumming. Give it a try I'd say.

Funko
20-12-2006, 11:25:36
Oooh, just had a thought. Got any Primus on there? Tim Alexander was excellent.

Tommy the Cat should be easy to find or Wynnona's Big Brown Beaver.

John the Fisherman is on Guitar Hero 2 if you want a contemporary reference. The first band to actually allow the makers access to the original recording masters for the game.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Jq1nBvClIMk&mode=related&search=

Scabrous Birdseed
20-12-2006, 11:49:29
Primus features extremely heavily on soulseek, feel free to suggest whatever more obscure track you can think of as well.

Funko
20-12-2006, 12:00:52
I am crap at song names, I don't have any to listen to here, and no access to such programs at work... So, that'll have to do!

Eklektikos
20-12-2006, 15:00:04
Cryptopsy feature some pretty impressive drumming. Check out Angelskingarden or Endless Cemetary for what I'd see as decent examples.

Joey Baron's drumming for Naked City was also rather good. Pretty much any track from their eponymous album ought to showcase that.

The drummer on Frank Zappa's Joe's Garage album won some kind of award for his playing on that record, but I have no idea what the names of any of the tracks are. Which is a little less than helpful of me. :nervous:

Scabrous Birdseed
20-12-2006, 18:34:42
Here is the end result. Decided not to put any metal on in the end - she's a metalhead already so she doesn't need any additional encouragement.

1 The Strangeloves I Want Candy
2 Queens Of The Stone Age No One Knows
3 Fabulous Counts Lunar Funk
4 Small Faces Afterglow Of Your Love
5 Sandy Nelson Teen Beat
6 Preston Epps Bongo Rock
7 Cozy Cole Topsy II
8 Kashmere Stage Band Scorpio
9 The Velvet Underground - I'm Waiting For The Man
10 Augustus Pablo King Tubby Meets Rockers Uptown
11 The Raspberries Overnight Sensation (Hit Record)
12 The Hollies Look Through Any Window
13 Primus Tommy the Cat
14 Jan and Dean Surf City
15 The Roadrunners - Every Man For Himself
16 William Shatner Common People
17 Dungen Panda
18 Aretha Franklin (Sweet Sweet Baby) Since You've Been Gone
19 The Surfaris Wipe Out
20 King Curtis Memphis Soul Stew
21 Stevie Wonder Too High
22 The Crystals Santa Claus Is Coming To Town
23 Kinks Victoria

A mixture of stuff I found by listening, stuff I remember airdrumming to, suggestions from, er, just Funko in the end I think and just a little too much from Max Weinberg's "Let There Be Drums" series of compos. Good shit, though, the man obviously knows his stuff.

Diss
20-12-2006, 20:41:56
Iron Maiden- too many to choose from. Maybe start with Where Eagles Dare.

Diss
20-12-2006, 20:45:11
Frankenstein- Edgar Winter group

How could I forget that one?

Scabrous Birdseed
20-12-2006, 21:06:15
It was *this* close to inclusion, it got culled in the next-to-last round.

Scabrous Birdseed
21-12-2006, 08:24:29
Actually, only pride prevents me from putting it on. (It was on one of the Max Weinberg compos and I'd inevitably have to replace something I put on myself.)