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Funko
12-12-2006, 12:25:29
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/suffolk/6171355.stm

3 dead prostitutes in a matter of days, 2 more missing. It's like something out of a trashy thriller that I'd read. Complete with total lack of real information and general criticism of the Police investigation.

Why don't they just call in the talented but slightly odd person who works somewhere on the fringes of the police, but isn't actually a policeman, to solve the case. Probably by ending up in an extremely dangerous face to face confrontation with the killer. That's what I'd do.

mr_G
12-12-2006, 12:27:32
I did not have sexual relations with those women

Drekkus
12-12-2006, 12:45:15
I think the Hardly Boys from Southpark could do the job. They get clues all the time!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRqKF70C-nY

Dyl Ulenspiegel
12-12-2006, 14:52:38
Link it to the Polonium cases, and you have the cheasiest Thriller ever.

Immortal Wombat
12-12-2006, 15:07:06
Are thrillers still doing prostitute murders? You'd think they'd have moved on by now. Lollipop ladies maybe. Or those people who bring round the Betterware catalogue.

King_Ghidra
12-12-2006, 15:11:14
it's funny you say that dyl, because i was speculating to my cowies that given as the cops have been acting totally retarded over this so far i had to assume that some bright spark had made that connection

the cops persistently claimed they weren't treating the deaths as linked originally, which was utterly ridiculous

the craziest thing is, there are no more than 30-40 hookers in this area, according to reports. You would think it would be pretty easy to gather information on clients and movements and suchlike. I've head several reports of girls who had already been attacked but wewre told by the cops it wasn't worth pursuing.

well now apparently there are 100 police officers on the case, so i reckon they can assign 3 cops to each hooker and just sit around and wait for the next attack.

Funko
12-12-2006, 16:17:25
The police want women to come forward, and say they'll treat their safety as paramount etc. etc. but they also say they can't guarantee amnesty for them if they've broken ASBOs, bail conditions etc. :rolleyes:

Which is a large part of the problem with getting information, also of course men don't like admitting to frequenting prostitutes. So it should be easy to get the information, but it's not.

MOBIUS
12-12-2006, 16:29:48
I still prefer K_G's 3 cops to a hooker idea...

Funko
12-12-2006, 16:31:49
Prefer his idea to what? I didn't offer an alternative to that eminently sensible suggestion.

Except based on the thrillers there's at least a 50/50 chance the killer is a cop.

MOBIUS
12-12-2006, 16:34:28
Prefer in general, not specifically to your non ideas.

If we assign at least two cops it should be OK then.:)

Funko
12-12-2006, 16:38:44
Maybe... see Magnum Force (1973)

maroule
12-12-2006, 16:43:21
Originally posted by MOBIUS
If we assign at least two cops it should be OK then.:)

3 is better if you want to fuck for free (cops have small salaries), as you need two to restrain the hooker

Funko
12-12-2006, 16:44:18
Ah, the stereotypical romantic Frenchman

MOBIUS
12-12-2006, 16:47:31
Originally posted by Funko
Maybe... see Magnum Force (1973)

But at least then we'll have some suspects.

maroule
12-12-2006, 17:00:00
Originally posted by Funko
Ah, the stereotypical romantic Frenchman

shut up, cock sucking fellatio giving dick gargler

fp
12-12-2006, 17:00:03
Two more bodies have been found. :(

Funko
12-12-2006, 17:08:29
:(

Debaser
12-12-2006, 18:55:13
Any suggestions for a good nickname for this serial killer?

Venom
12-12-2006, 19:08:05
If he used a hook to kill them he could be called the Hooker Hooker.

MattHiggs
12-12-2006, 20:14:21
:lol:

Beta1
12-12-2006, 20:54:34
Originally posted by fp
Two more bodies have been found. :(

well that will increase the cop:hooker ratio a little then.

Scabrous Birdseed
12-12-2006, 21:02:25
Originally posted by Venom
If he used a hook to kill them he could be called the Hooker Hooker.

If he played rugby as well he could be the Hooker Hooker Hooker.

Scabrous Birdseed
12-12-2006, 21:08:38
The investigating officer's name is "Gull", which is interesting if you've read certain Alan Moore comics...

Gramercy Riffs
12-12-2006, 21:09:07
BJ Hooker?

Oerdin
12-12-2006, 21:11:20
Originally posted by MOBIUS
I still prefer K_G's 3 cops to a hooker idea...

The lady of the night might even be willing to show her gratitude to the hard working officers of the law. ;)

Oerdin
12-12-2006, 21:12:58
Originally posted by maroule
3 is better if you want to fuck for free (cops have small salaries), as you need two to restrain the hooker

At least then the cops could say they're on top of the prostitution problem. :p

Debaser
13-12-2006, 00:20:46
Originally posted by Debaser
Any suggestions for a good nickname for this serial killer?

Best so far: The Suffolk-ator.

Greg W
13-12-2006, 01:11:00
He performed oral on them before killing them? :eek:

Scabrous Birdseed
13-12-2006, 08:26:55
The East(r)Angler.

Diss
13-12-2006, 09:15:49
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/12/13/UK.prostitute.reut/index.html

it could happen to anyone? That seems to be a silly thing to say when only prostitutes are dying.

Why kill prostitutes? I don't get it. They provide a good service for the community. I still have a theory that if the middle east had prostitutes there would be no war or terrorist attacks.

fp
13-12-2006, 09:17:48
More crappy BBC journalism and fake science in the news!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/suffolk/6171571.stm

Consultant forensic psychologist Dr Ian Stephen has worked on previous serial killer cases and advised the makers of the TV drama Cracker.

He said although there was little information to build up a clear profile of who may have killed these women, it was possible to hypothesise about what the person may be like.


In other words: "I know nothing about what evidence, if any, the police have discovered, but I'm prepared to just make up a load of stuff in order to get my name in the paper."


Dr Stephen said the suspect was probably male, white, in his late 20s, 30s or 40s, and is someone who probably had been let down by women in his past.

"The victims are prostitutes, they are in the same area - so he could have a particular issue with women whatever origin that is from."

"He maybe had a mother who has let him down, or a mother who has abandoned him," he added. "In some sense he may have idolised women and then they let him down."

But he also said the killer may be on "some kind of Christian mission" believing he is "clearing the world of prostitutes".

Whatever his profile, Dr Stephen said the murderer is likely to try to kill more women and believes he is getting out of control.


In other words: "Here is some information from a GCSE psychology textbook, along with the storyline from a thriller I once read."

:gasmaske:

King_Ghidra
13-12-2006, 09:24:32
Originally posted by Gramercy Riffs
BJ Hooker?

:lol:

King_Ghidra
13-12-2006, 09:26:36
Originally posted by fp
More crappy BBC journalism and fake science in the news!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/suffolk/6171571.stm


In other words: "I know nothing about what evidence, if any, the police have discovered, but I'm prepared to just make up a load of stuff in order to get my name in the paper."



In other words: "Here is some information from a GCSE psychology textbook, along with the storyline from a thriller I once read."

:gasmaske:

so true, that was a really shameful article.

King_Ghidra
13-12-2006, 09:27:39
Originally posted by Scabrous Birdseed
The investigating officer's name is "Gull", which is interesting if you've read certain Alan Moore comics...

From Hell?

I've not read it, just guessing.

King_Ghidra
13-12-2006, 10:13:46
Originally posted by Debaser
Any suggestions for a good nickname for this serial killer?

Actually, how about the Tart Popper?

MOBIUS
13-12-2006, 10:26:03
The Ips-wichfinder General?

MOBIUS
13-12-2006, 10:35:04
A sadly true article in the Indy - Victorian values were the vogue over a century ago, not now...:rolleyes:

Deborah Orr: Why these women are paying the price of a zero tolerance approach to street prostitution
The way they get money is usually just one more nasty and unpleasant detail in a nasty, unpleasant life
Published: 13 December 2006

On average a prostitute is killed on the streets of Britain once every couple of months, and few people take much notice. Tania Nicol, Gemma Adams, Anneli Alderton, and two women still formally to be identified, have lost their lives over a much shorter time-span, in one small town in England, and in chillingly similar circumstances. Killing one woman who is selling sex, it appears, is merely regrettable. Any more, and all hell breaks loose...

We should do what the Dutchies do...

Indy (http://comment.independent.co.uk/columnists_m_z/deborah_orr/article2070151.ece)

Funko
13-12-2006, 11:42:51
Originally posted by Debaser
Any suggestions for a good nickname for this serial killer?

Popbitch yesterday had some great ones. My favourite was the East Anglia Stranglia.

MDA
13-12-2006, 11:50:52
Originally posted by mr_G
I did not have sexual relations with those women

this is probably still too raw to make a necrophilia joke

Funko
13-12-2006, 11:51:02
He's operating not far from Boston, Suffolk...

Funko
13-12-2006, 11:56:55
Saw the front page of the Sun on the train this morning.

Headline: "He kills them, stores them, dumps them in the dark"

Classy as always.

MOBIUS
13-12-2006, 11:57:40
Boston Strangler #2?

Or is that a PHd?:p

Funko
13-12-2006, 11:58:59
Yes, it's a PHd.

Diss
13-12-2006, 20:38:22
Originally posted by fp
More crappy BBC journalism and fake science in the news!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/suffolk/6171571.stm


In other words: "I know nothing about what evidence, if any, the police have discovered, but I'm prepared to just make up a load of stuff in order to get my name in the paper."



In other words: "Here is some information from a GCSE psychology textbook, along with the storyline from a thriller I once read."

:gasmaske:

It amazed me this guy gets paid for this stuff. I could of came up with that on my own. In fact, it's what I first suspected when I heard about this. No shit he has issues with women.

DaShi
13-12-2006, 23:28:26
I think its all made up to curb prostitution for the PM's visit.

Provost Harrison
13-12-2006, 23:31:57
Originally posted by MOBIUS
The Ips-wichfinder General?

:lol: I almost spat my drink everywhere when I saw that :lol:

Nav
14-12-2006, 09:43:35
Originally posted by Immortal Wombat
<snip> Or those people who bring round the Betterware catalogue. I might be a prime target on the list for a bettware catalogue distributor/killer, always throwing that damn thing away.

Funko
14-12-2006, 09:58:48
the first bad taste joke I've seen so far:


Have you heard there is a dyslexic santa operating in Ipswich at the moment?

He keeps leaving prozzies under the tree.

Kitsuki
14-12-2006, 10:29:09
I love how you call it bad taste and then launch into telling it! :lol:

maroule
14-12-2006, 10:33:43
he knows his readership

Funko
14-12-2006, 10:53:03
What else would I do?

MOBIUS
14-12-2006, 10:58:25
Let us know if you come across any more...:lol:

MattHiggs
14-12-2006, 13:02:46
Originally posted by Funko
the first bad taste joke I've seen so far:


Have you heard there is a dyslexic santa operating in Ipswich at the moment?

He keeps leaving prozzies under the tree.

:lol:

Nills Lagerbaak
14-12-2006, 13:17:26
The Sufolkator - last seen killing Norfolk Broads....

Nills Lagerbaak
14-12-2006, 13:21:17
He tried to proclaim his innocence but it wouldn't - Wash.

Funko
18-12-2006, 10:20:54
Apparently they've arrested someone.

King_Ghidra
18-12-2006, 10:25:27
is it cos he is black?

Nills Lagerbaak
18-12-2006, 11:00:11
Apparantly one of the cops involved in the investigation was a client of one of the girls! Now he's become a suspect.

Funko
18-12-2006, 11:00:49
Textbook thriller stuff so far.

Nills Lagerbaak
18-12-2006, 11:09:08
Good to see the legend of Jack the Ripper is being revived. In fact I think Jack the Ripper is alive and well - in Ipswich!

Nills Lagerbaak
18-12-2006, 11:09:29
And it is actually Prince Charles!

Funko
18-12-2006, 11:10:00
Except there isn't any ripping, its more Jack the Strangler.

Nills Lagerbaak
18-12-2006, 11:10:39
Ah yes, Prince Charle....err.. I mean Jack the Strangler.

Brilliant stuff!

Venom
18-12-2006, 12:58:30
Ripper sounds so much better.

Nills Lagerbaak
18-12-2006, 13:09:14
Jack the windpipe crusher? Is that better??

Venom
18-12-2006, 13:12:45
Lengthy, but it does have its charm.

Nills Lagerbaak
18-12-2006, 13:14:57
yes, it is a respectable serial killer name, but when we have "The Suffolkator" you don't really need any more.

Funko
18-12-2006, 13:15:38
What's wrong with the East Anglia Stranglier?

Nills Lagerbaak
18-12-2006, 13:17:59
Yeah, that's good too.

Funko
18-12-2006, 13:32:55
Wanna be his myspace friend?

http://www.myspace.com/85784962

I'm surprised his address isn't myspace.com/suffolkator

Nills Lagerbaak
18-12-2006, 13:34:22
clever guy . myspace = good place to pick up prossies.

Funko
18-12-2006, 13:34:46
I bet his top friends are happy.

mr_G
18-12-2006, 13:37:29
just call him Tom Stephens

Funko
18-12-2006, 13:38:34
http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/news/tm_headline=ripper-hunt--the-suspect&method=full&objectid=18275623&siteid=62484-name_page.html

Interview with him from the other day.

Venom
18-12-2006, 13:42:13
Let he who is without the sin of killing a prostitute cast the first stone.

mr_G
18-12-2006, 13:43:05
smelly Bishop

fp
18-12-2006, 13:48:01
Jesus H Christ please save me from this idiotic journalistic nonsense!!!!!

from The Times:
Neighbour Lesley-Anne Barber, 50, said she had seen Mr Stephens wearing tight Lycra shorts and a sleeveless T-shirt in his garden in November.

"He used to just wander around in the back garden. He didn’t seem the sort of person that would want to have anything to do with anyone.

Another neighbour, who only wanted to be referred to as Mrs Wynel, said she saw him digging. She added: "He had a trowel in the garden, he was planting seeds, he was digging little holes. He always seemed to be digging in the garden."

Yes well close the fucking book on this one - case solved! If in doubt it must be the loner who dresses funny. He's probably got loads more dead women buried in his garden! I mean, he's been seen digging there and everything! Oh the horror!

OK, so the Times doesn't actually go so far as to suggest that the testimony of those women is in any way incriminating for Mr Stephens. However, what other reason could they have for quoting their meaningless and irrelevant observations? In case you hadn't noticed this gibberish makes me kind of crazy.

fp
18-12-2006, 13:48:33
Originally posted by Venom
Let he who is without the sin of killing a prostitute cast the first stone.

:lol:

Venom
18-12-2006, 13:55:50
That interview makes him so guilty. The only way it could have been more incriminating is if he strangled the interviewer during the actual interview.

Funko
18-12-2006, 14:02:38
You think this makes him sound guilty?

TS: I would have complete opportunity, the girls would have trusted me so much. If I had blindfolded them and taken them to the edge of a cliff and said take two steps but take three and you'll go over - they would have taken the two steps. From the police profiling it does look like me - white male between 25 and 40, knows the area, works strange hours. The bodies have got close to my house. I know that I'm innocent. But I don't have alibis for some of the times - actually I'm not entirely sure I have tight alibis for any of the times.

King_Ghidra
18-12-2006, 14:20:11
It is a fascinating interview.

As to his guilt, in a way it would be strange, i mean it sounds like he was very close to the girls in some rather bizarre ways, e.g.

MD: Who are the pimps?


TS: There are no pimps in Ipswich. I know nothing about massage parlours, but there are no pimps who run a number of girls (on the street). I suppose my actions - by the legal definition I'm nowhere near that. But by my behaviour, I'd be as close as there was to a pimp. I knew a lot of girls and I used to run them about. If there was such a thing as a pimp he'd take money for it.


MD: Did you take money for it?


TS: I used to occasionally take petrol money but I certainly wouldn't have filled up on what I was getting. Some of the girls have boyfriends who are dominant over them, forcing them to work and supporting their habit as well. That's about as close as there is to a pimp in Ipswich. There is so much lying that goes on with the girls you have to be very careful. I used to give worn-out tee-shirts to the girls. I've spoken to girls and they've said: "Why are they (police) questioning you? They shouldn't be doing that. You help us." I say they have to suspect anybody and everybody. They can't see me giving them lifts lending them money and say: "We'll leave him alone."


so on the one hand he's the friendly guy who's known them for months and helps them out and then on the other hand he flips and kills 5 of them in a matter of weeks. Very strange

Kitsuki
18-12-2006, 16:49:27
That Tom bastard at Myspace will be friends with fucking anyone.

mr_G
18-12-2006, 16:58:43
he kills fish too (http://www.topnotchfishing.com/)

Oerdin
18-12-2006, 19:37:04
Originally posted by Funko
Wanna be his myspace friend?

http://www.myspace.com/85784962

I'm surprised his address isn't myspace.com/suffolkator

He's now deleted everything. He still has 7 friends listed though.

Funko
19-12-2006, 08:54:41
It's been cancelled.

Funko
19-12-2006, 09:22:01
They've arrested someone else now, not sure if he has a MySpace.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/suffolk/6192085.stm

Drekkus
19-12-2006, 10:49:59
Why haven't they called in CSI yet??

Oerdin
19-12-2006, 18:15:40
CSI: Ipswich?

Beta1
19-12-2006, 18:34:34
LOL, probably drive around in tractors.

Diss
19-12-2006, 21:19:36
Interesting they got another guy. So is the first guy innocent? This doesn't seem like something more than one person would do.

Funko
20-12-2006, 08:52:15
First guy is still being questioned too.

King_Ghidra
20-12-2006, 09:47:57
Here's a clue: the cops don't know who did it or have any evidence.

At this rate they'll still be questioning both men come 2007.

Funko
20-12-2006, 10:03:57
- FACT!

Although apparently the second arrest was 'significant'. Why wasn't the first one significant?

Why don't they make up some terrorist charge so that they can keep them in custody for ever.

Funko
20-12-2006, 10:11:21
BTW, I read in the paper this morning that people at the 2nd suspect's local pub said there was no way he could have done it, so the police have got the wrong man again.

The media coverage has been disgraceful so far. Showing pictures of the suspects, broadcasting interviews (after they'd been arrested) publishing names, personal details, interviews with friends and relatives etc.

The Sun has an absolutely unbelievable picture on its front cover today. You will piss yourselves laughing if you haven't seen it:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/

The media are gradually crossing the line more and more with this stuff every case.

If it is one of these two men their lawyers will make a case that the media coverage has been predudicial, at some point someone will get off because of the media coverage and at that point some of the papers will probably get charged with contempt.

The rule is that once proceedings become active (they put a warrant out for arrest) the media can't broadcast anthing predudicial. Some of this stuff is totally across that line

Here are some further activities that would be or could be in contempt:
...
Publishing details of a Defendant's lifestyle
http://www.channel4.com/fourdocs/about/contempt_court.html

MOBIUS
20-12-2006, 10:17:13
Yes we definitely need a law where the editors of papers can be jailed for contempt/wasting police time etc...

Totally despicable!

Funko
20-12-2006, 10:18:12
Er... we have those laws. That's my point.

Scabrous Birdseed
20-12-2006, 10:19:38
Originally posted by Funko

The Sun has an absolutely unbelievable picture on its front cover today. You will piss yourselves laughing if you haven't seen it:

Oh jesus. That's pathetic.

MOBIUS
20-12-2006, 10:20:49
Are you sure they're not just fined as a paper and given a slap on the wrist?

We need the editors themselves to think twice before publishing this shit...

Funko
20-12-2006, 10:27:20
Superior courts, e.g. the High Court can imprison for a fixed period of up to two years. The county and magistrates’ courts can imprison for up to one month.

Funko
20-12-2006, 10:27:55
I don't see a Red Top editor going to jail for 2 years, but it would be sweet.

King_Ghidra
20-12-2006, 10:33:18
Originally posted by Funko


The Sun has an absolutely unbelievable picture on its front cover today. You will piss yourselves laughing if you haven't seen it:



:lol:

Nills Lagerbaak
20-12-2006, 10:39:10
That is indeed funny. It's got me thinking as well....

Funko
20-12-2006, 10:40:04
I can just imagine them in the editorial meeting. Boss, we've got these photos of Steve Wright, not sure which one we should use....

Nills Lagerbaak
20-12-2006, 10:44:26
I can see it now - Radio one DJ in Ipswich murder shocker...


Police are urging people in ipswich who want sex before xmas to hurry …while stocks last!

Sutcliffe - 6 years, 13 girls. Steve Wright - 5 girls, 2 weeks… You can’t get quicker than an Ipswich Ripper!

Funko
20-12-2006, 10:48:55
... we're the ones to trust.

I can imagine them doing the silly Kwik Fit dance. His unstoppable out of control killing spree seems to have stopped, but that's probably because this Sunday is "End Violence Against Sex Workers Day"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6178793.stm

And people say these days have no effect!!

fp
20-12-2006, 10:49:45
The front page of The Sun is an absolute disgrace. I didn't think my opinion of journalism in this country could have sunk even lower, but somehow manage to keep reaching new depths.

Funko
20-12-2006, 10:50:28
Apparently a teenage girl was found strangled, naked and dead in a stream in the area in 1999, and the case was never solved. So there could easily be more cases going back a long time.

Nills Lagerbaak
20-12-2006, 10:51:36
They should have one of Harold Shipman hanging with the headline "did he kill him too?"

Just to throw some more sensationalism in there!

Funko
20-12-2006, 10:53:00
That Shipman death was highly dodgy.

Nills Lagerbaak
20-12-2006, 10:54:30
I heard he was most missed by the prison boxing team. They said he had a lethal jab.

Funko
20-12-2006, 10:55:13
If a serial killer kills a serial killer can he add his total to his own?

Nills Lagerbaak
20-12-2006, 10:59:16
Yeah, it's like a repeater on the fruitie.


Play the strangulator accumulator.

MOBIUS
20-12-2006, 11:01:20
Originally posted by Nills Lagerbaak
I heard he was most missed by the prison boxing team. They said he had a lethal jab.

Funny, I heard it was the sprinting team because he could inject a lot of pace...

Drekkus
20-12-2006, 13:56:39
Originally posted by Funko


The Sun has an absolutely unbelievable picture on its front cover today. You will piss yourselves laughing if you haven't seen it:
I haven't seen it, and I can't say I'm pissing my pants right now...

Funko
20-12-2006, 14:00:15
I'm looking forward to 2007.

Drekkus
20-12-2006, 14:05:49
I need to get in as much subtle witticisms before our departure.