View Full Version : Looking for a map of Tobruk

Greg W
23-09-2006, 05:27:01
In particular the seige thereof in WWII. There's a few types I'd be looking for:
- one of the terrain features around Tobruk, including (or not) disposition of forces
- a detailed map of the city itself

It may (hah) be very hard to find these, but if anyone knows where I could find one, whether it be online, or from a book (ISBN number would be great if possible, otherwise a title), it would be much appreciated.

Cheers. :beer:

P.S. Historically accuracy is a good thing, so no BF1942 maps thanks. :)

23-09-2006, 05:54:45
I tried a quick Google, all I got that was even relevant;-



I'll keep looking though. World Wide Web is only about 5% of the internet and Google only maps about 16% of that, don't give up hope just yet.

C.G.B. Spender
23-09-2006, 06:38:53
Cool, what's it called? "Google"?

Greg W
23-09-2006, 07:34:43
Yeah I looked through Google first, and there doesn't seem to be much relevant out there. There's very basic maps of the area, but very little (in fact almost nothing) showing terrain, army dispositions, or the city itself. Thus the (rather specific) query.

Thanks though Cruddy. And a :rolleyes: at CGBS.

23-09-2006, 07:45:34
Presume you've found this (http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-battles/ww2/tobruk.htm) ? It'll be a little hard to find anything new without knowing what you've got already.

Greg W
23-09-2006, 08:39:17
Yeah, found that (even if the server is apparently down at the moment). Rather than what I did find, what I didn't find, and would really like is a detailed map of the city (aka down to buildings, or at worst, just streets) of the city circa 1941/2. I didn't find anything on this score.

Stuff like this is easy to find:

And a topographical map of the area. I only found one which came close:

Finding details of the forces involved, and their general disposition isn't too hard. Nor is very high level maps of the area around Tobruk. this (http://www-cgsc.army.mil/carl/resources/csi/miller/miller.asp) is probably one of the best sites that I found.

23-09-2006, 10:40:50
D'oh - silly me.

23-09-2006, 10:52:30
Buy from here (http://www.gameslore.co.uk/acatalog/index.html)? Select 'Military games', then 'Advanced Tobruk system'.

Or browse here (http://www.nzetc.org/projects/wh2/maps.html) .

Greg W
24-09-2006, 00:52:11
Ta. I did notice the Advanced Tobruk game, but the few shots I saw showing the maps weren't promising. :(

Second site might have something interesting, I'll check it out.

24-09-2006, 08:38:30
I remember reading the letters of Rommel to his wife, published in a two volumes, and there were detailed maps of Tobrouk there I think (all the fucker talked about was his battles, and in great detail)

There were a few advanced squad leader scenario on this battle (remember one on Bir Hackem)

Greg W
24-09-2006, 11:49:59
Thanks Maroule, I might try and see if our local library has a copy of his letters. :beer:

27-09-2006, 11:57:08
if I had my copy of "An Army at Dawn", I could look through the references and probably find something

so I'll just recommend the book instead, even if you don't find what you want, its a great read


27-09-2006, 12:03:39
good read indeed, on the 1943 Torch US invasion of north africa, and how the US army "grew up" after some candid mistakes. I read that when playing CMAK, quite enjoyable.