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Funko
22-09-2006, 11:11:53
http://i10.tinypic.com/4731z6s.jpg

mr_G
22-09-2006, 11:14:36
:lol: how is that dwarf doing?

Funko
22-09-2006, 11:22:36
Full story here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/north_yorkshire/5369512.stm

Apparently improving but suffered a serious brain injury.

I think we'd all agree that we hope he makes a full recovery... the world doesn't need another retarded dwarf.

incidentally....

PopBitch tells me the news we all really want to know. He DID break the UK land speed record, and the crash happened when they were doing further runs to get additional angles.

mr_G
22-09-2006, 11:34:57
retarded dwarfs are soooo 2005

Venom
22-09-2006, 11:48:15
Maybe they should have done further runs at slower speeds and then just sped up the film?

Nills Lagerbaak
22-09-2006, 11:51:17
What makes me laugh is that the UK landspeed record is/was 300mph, but the world landspeed record was ~768. That is a huge difference!

And didn't we use to do land speed records on Lakes in the Lake District!? Explain me how that's a land speed record?

King_Ghidra
22-09-2006, 11:54:34
i think that would be the water speed record

i.e. the bluebird thing in which donald campbell died

he and his dad also drove a car called bluebird which held the land speed record.

Funko
22-09-2006, 11:54:56
That wasn't a land speed record, it was a water speed record. Sometimes they did them on frozen lakes, because they were flat.

I guess the reason the UK one is so much slower is because we don't have a big enough perfectly flat space to test, like the deserts in the US and no recent tests have been done here.

http://www.landspeed.com/learn.asp

King_Ghidra
22-09-2006, 11:56:56
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_Campbell

Land Speed Records
He broke nine land speed records between 1924 and 1935, with three at Pendine Sands and five at Daytona Beach.

He set his final land speed record at the Bonneville Salt Flats in Utah on September 3, 1935. Malcolm Campbell was the first person to drive an automobile over 300 miles per hour (301.337 mph).

Water speed records
He set the water speed record four times. His highest speed was 141.740 mph in the Bluebird K4. He set the record on August 19, 1939 on Coniston Water in Great Britain.


so even back in the day they were racing in utah rather than here for the land speeds

King_Ghidra
22-09-2006, 12:02:22
It's fascinating and quite tragic really. I remember seeing documentaries about donald campbell as a kid.

This bit in particular really sticks in my mind:

Campbell's last words were, via radio:

"I can't see much, the water's very bad indeed... I'm getting a lot of bloody row in here... I've got the bows up... I've gone..."

and the images of the boat flipping backwards.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Campbell

Anyway, this is amazing (especially considering campbell did 300mph on water back in '67)

The World Unlimited water speed record is the officially recognised fastest speed achieved by a water-borne vehicle. The current record of 511 km/h (317 mph) was achieved in 1978.
[...]
With an approximate fatality rate of 50%, the record is one of the sporting world's most hazardous competitions.

:eek:

Funko
22-09-2006, 12:09:48
That is an incredible stat. No wonder people aren't queueing up to break it!

King_Ghidra
22-09-2006, 12:11:16
But they are! :lol:

Currently there are three major projects aiming for the record. The British Quicksilver, The American Challenge project, and spurred into action by the new challengers, Ken Warby [current holder] has also built a new boat.

Funko
22-09-2006, 12:12:06
:lol:

Venom
22-09-2006, 12:30:01
1.5 of those people are going to die.

King_Ghidra
22-09-2006, 12:34:17
Based on the post-1978 trend they're all going to die.

Venom
22-09-2006, 12:36:14
Ken Warby is really pressing his luck. He's done it once, that pretty much guarantees he's going to die.

Funko
22-09-2006, 12:38:58
According to Wikipedia, he's was the holder before that and broke his own record.

Venom
22-09-2006, 12:41:13
So he's undead then? Boat Racing Zombies....I smell a new Funko & Venom production.

Either that or I just farted.

Mr. Bas
22-09-2006, 12:41:45
Bah. The real Land Speed Record still belongs to Bob Mould, Grant Hart and Greg Norton.

fp
22-09-2006, 12:44:13
Originally posted by Funko
He DID break the UK land speed record, and the crash happened when they were doing further runs to get additional angles.

If true, that is very sad.

It doesn't seem unreasonable to expect that a BBC producer should have said "This stunt is quite dangerous, so let's bring a couple of extra cameras for this shoot - we don't want to do it any more times than necessary".

Nav
22-09-2006, 12:56:19
yeah but then you'd have other cameras in shot. I imagine they do mutiple takes of almost everything in Top Gear.

fp
22-09-2006, 14:42:35
Oh I'm sure they do, but where there is a greater-than-usual level of risk one would assume that they would try to keep the number of takes to a minimum.

And I'm sure the cameras could be strategically placed to avoid having other cameras in shot. Isn't that the sort of thing that people go to film school in order to learn?

It certainly sounds like a better option than a huge lawsuit for criminal negligence. From the sound of things the BBC hadn't filled in a full risk assessment for the stunt, although the specialist organisers at the scene say every precaution was taken.

shagnasty
22-09-2006, 17:21:15
This bloke (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Baxter) is not very well known but he does hold a world land speed record, plus I went skiing with him and a load of other members of St. D's in Italy a couple of years back. He really is a top bloke.

shagnasty
22-09-2006, 17:28:30
And this (http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.st-dunstans.org.uk/upload/images/news/SR01.Sarah%2520and%2520Billy%2520with%2520cheque.0 7.11.03.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.st-dunstans.org.uk/pages/newsletter.asp%3Fi_ToolbarID%3D1%26i_PageID%3D50&h=141&w=200&sz=22&hl=en&start=22&tbnid=SAaGIe6sYmtB4M:&tbnh=73&tbnw=104&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbilly%2Bbaxter%26start%3D20%26ndsp%3D 20%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN) chappie.

Beta1
22-09-2006, 21:06:27
Originally posted by fp
If true, that is very sad.

It doesn't seem unreasonable to expect that a BBC producer should have said "This stunt is quite dangerous, so let's bring a couple of extra cameras for this shoot - we don't want to do it any more times than necessary".

thing is the guy is a speed nut. I suspect he woul dhave done as many runs as they would let him do just for the hell of it.

Provost Harrison
22-09-2006, 21:20:32
Originally posted by Venom
Ken Warby is really pressing his luck. He's done it once, that pretty much guarantees he's going to die.

Probability was never your hottest topic at school was it? ;)

Funko
23-09-2006, 09:52:22
Originally posted by Venom
So he's undead then? Boat Racing Zombies....I smell a new Funko & Venom production.

Either that or I just farted. I hate you!!!

Cruddy
23-09-2006, 12:45:17
Originally posted by Nills Lagerbaak
What makes me laugh is that the UK landspeed record is/was 300mph, but the world landspeed record was ~768. That is a huge difference!



That's because in the UK someone has to walk in front waving a red flag to warn pedestrians.

Steroids will only improve walking speeds so much.