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*End Is Forever*
31-08-2006, 02:25:26
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,1858029,00.html

Now all I need is Johan to tell me how much of that article is bollocks. It's a Toynbee article, most of it must be rubbish...

Oerdin
31-08-2006, 05:23:06
I thought those Swedes spent all of their time hearding raindeer and making volvos.

Scabrous Birdseed
31-08-2006, 05:45:14
Weeelll... Let's see...

The social democrats are five points behind in the polls, with the gap widening

The last three polls I saw, they were dead even, one point behind and three points behind respectively. The different numbers are due to different polling methods and are fairly consistent for each institute - TEMO has polled even blocks for the past six months and SIFO has polled a right-wing lead.

The Moderates have now inched so close to the social democrats that readers of their manifestos need deft code-breaking skills to spot the differences.

Actually there's still huge differences in the message conveyed. The "soft" image of the Moderates is only up to a point - they've got a very un-social-democrat social divisiveness that they've now tried to move below the working class. That's the new thing. They're "the new worker's party" in the slogans, which in practice mainly means significantly cutting benefits and pensions for those who aren't working.

Nor was the "scandal" of a minister using her official credit card to buy a bar of chocolate - but she had to resign.

Which happened 11 years ago in a totally different context (she was the main candidate for prime inister at the time) and while it was a totally horrible press percecution of a woman as per the norm it was rather more than chocolate. Still, everyone remembers the chocolate.

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What's missing from the picture in general, I think, is the fact that there are seven big parties running plus about 4 small ones that together (had they not had totally opposing ideologies) could easily form another 4% parliamentary party. While both blocks have been talking unity more than in the past few elections, there's still dimensions in politics beyond what Reinfeld and Persson think, and about 45% of the voting public won't vote for either party. Which block wins is as much an ideological fight between the Social Democrats and, say, the People's Party (15%) as it is with the Moderates, who've been fairly quiet in the media so far.

*End Is Forever*
31-08-2006, 10:28:59
Toynbee is talking out of her arse then, as usual.

Funko
31-08-2006, 10:40:19
I think most of the opinion in that column about the state of play in British politics is bollocks as well.

Venom
31-08-2006, 11:53:03
I thought they made Saabs?

Dyl Ulenspiegel
31-08-2006, 12:52:44
No, that's finnish.

King_Ghidra
31-08-2006, 13:05:30
it's over already?

Cruddy
31-08-2006, 13:14:08
Originally posted by Oerdin
I thought those Swedes spent all of their time hearding raindeer and making volvos.

They are a tiny bit more advanced than that - they are getting into satellite launching;


I think this is the first "real" satellite launch from Swedish soil, everything else has been payloads on sounding rockets which is not at all the same thing.

Sorry no English PR, I got this from their website and news today. It's of course interesting from a military surveillance/datacom perspective. That's why I post about it...

Company: Ångström aerospace @ Uppsala

The first launch to happen this fall by a fighter jet will be a 40 kg micro/nanotechnology satellite named EIS (Earth Intelligence Surveillance) and will provide below 2 m imagery in VIS/PAN and less than 10 m in NIR.

The track correction unit weigh only 100 grams.

The satellites is built using a modular concept w/silicon, and can be easily adapted for mission specifics. The satellites will provide performance similar to x 10 heavier traditional satellite.

Former head of microtechnology R&D at Nasas Jet Propulsion Laboratory is a advisor to Ångström Aerospace. ÅA's CEO Fredrik Bruhn won earlier this year a product award from NASA as a result of developing miniature cameras for the ISS.

The goal is to series produce small surveillance satellites at 25 Kg that can be launched by jets.

MicroLink-1 (formerly called NanoSpace-1) ordered by the Swedish National Space Board is the smallest yet (<10Kg) and planned for launch in 2008-2009.



http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/120/nanospace002fa1c79jp8.jpg

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/9450/satellgraf539gdf40dd8ac3.jpg

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/5738/nanospace003fa8008il8.jpg

Dyl Ulenspiegel
31-08-2006, 13:41:04
Elks in space! Elks in space!

Oerdin
31-08-2006, 14:10:36
Originally posted by Dyl Ulenspiegel
No, that's finnish.

Saabs are Swedish or at least they were before they got bought out by GM and most of the cars became rebadged Opels made in Germany.

King_Ghidra
31-08-2006, 14:41:41
i'm sure dyl knows that, i suspect he just made some kind of swoosh over the heads joke

King_Ghidra
31-08-2006, 14:42:55
and why do satellites still look like the kid of shit i was bashing together in my craft and design class in the 80's?

Dyl Ulenspiegel
31-08-2006, 14:46:41
Originally posted by King_Ghidra
"kid of shit"

New forum title?

Dyl Ulenspiegel
31-08-2006, 14:49:23
Originally posted by Oerdin
Saabs are Swedish or at least they were before they got bought out by GM and most of the cars became rebadged Opels made in Germany.

Saab and Volvo are both originally swedish (just as an info for venom) and meanwhile heavily ameri-germanized. Poor swedes. Might just as well be finnish.

King_Ghidra
31-08-2006, 14:54:03
Originally posted by Dyl Ulenspiegel
New forum title?

:lol: oops :o

King_Ghidra
31-08-2006, 14:58:52
must have been thinking of this guy

http://www.ilovebacon.com/040903/shitkid.jpg

Scabrous Birdseed
07-09-2006, 06:04:03
Well, there goes the possibility of an issue-based campaign (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/5320584.stm). :rolleyes:

Provost Harrison
07-09-2006, 18:19:51
Originally posted by Cruddy
They are a tiny bit more advanced than that - they are getting into satellite launching;



http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/120/nanospace002fa1c79jp8.jpg

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/9450/satellgraf539gdf40dd8ac3.jpg

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/5738/nanospace003fa8008il8.jpg

Do you have to assemble it yourself once it reaches orbit? ;)

King_Ghidra
08-09-2006, 08:21:21
they probably don't reach orbit very often, powering rockets with reindeer droppings is still a science in its infancy

Funko
22-11-2006, 10:57:19
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/backbench/comment/0,,1953935,00.html

Cameron told to ditch Churchill for Toynbee! I immediately thought of this thread.

:lol: