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Oerdin
15-08-2006, 05:25:10
Looking at British films, British cartoons, and even British books it is clear that a heavy dose of American English has creeped its way into British English. Now one could rightly claim that this is just the natural evolution of the English language but I am interested in exploring the means from which this cultural lingustic transfer takes place. Is it just the media, is it face to face contact, is it via the internet, or is it a combination of several sources? Let's here your thoughts.

C.G.B. Spender
15-08-2006, 06:22:44
Yes

Asher
15-08-2006, 06:24:01
example please

fp
15-08-2006, 06:25:32
I think it is mostly due to movies and TV.

fp
15-08-2006, 06:26:07
Originally posted by Asher
example please

Gee whizz, Asher, haven't all y'all ever heard a limey use an Americanism before?

C.G.B. Spender
15-08-2006, 06:26:42
I think it's an extremely boring topic for a thread

fp
15-08-2006, 06:27:11
Darn tootin'.

JM^3
15-08-2006, 06:40:16
isn't this a sticky wicket

JM

Funko
15-08-2006, 08:04:48
This thread's quaint.

Cruddy
15-08-2006, 08:14:56
Apart from the movies and TV, there's also internet forums, chat rooms, and the big one... music.

Anyway, Brit English has forever taken words from other societies and taken them onboard.

King_Ghidra
15-08-2006, 09:08:51
you betcha, english has a certain je ne se quois about it, capiche?

Drekkus
15-08-2006, 09:12:39
Why don't english people talk american when they go to the US? Would be the polite thing to do.

Funko
15-08-2006, 09:29:36
English people don't learn foriegn languages.

mr_G
15-08-2006, 09:32:10
why not?

Oerdin
15-08-2006, 09:45:52
Originally posted by C.G.B. Spender
I think it's an extremely boring topic for a thread

It was selected especially to piss you off.

mr_G
15-08-2006, 09:49:04
ballocks!!

C.G.B. Spender
15-08-2006, 10:45:38
Originally posted by Oerdin
It was selected especially to piss you off. Try harder

Drekkus
15-08-2006, 11:03:06
creep

mr_G
15-08-2006, 11:09:33
kruipolie nodig?

Drekkus
15-08-2006, 11:12:57
No, that's piep.

Resource Consumer
15-08-2006, 13:06:03
Gee - this thread is at least 300 years old

C.G.B. Spender
15-08-2006, 13:09:07
So it was new when you where young!

Resource Consumer
15-08-2006, 13:10:06
it was old even then

Drekkus
15-08-2006, 13:15:00
ye olde

mr_G
15-08-2006, 13:52:49
oldest thread evah!!!!

Japher
15-08-2006, 13:57:41
now if we can get the Welsh to start speaking English we'd be in buisness

Dyl Ulenspiegel
15-08-2006, 19:05:55
What is really annoying is dutch words creeping into german.

Justicebork
15-08-2006, 19:45:14
Got 30 down at the bottom, 30 mo at the top,
All invisible set and little ice cube blocks, lad

Drekkus
15-08-2006, 21:08:13
Originally posted by Dyl Ulenspiegel
What is really annoying is dutch words creeping into german. Everyone knows german is just a dutch accent.

Cruddy
15-08-2006, 22:22:51
How come German has more words than Dutch then?

Oerdin
16-08-2006, 00:36:28
Originally posted by Dyl Ulenspiegel
What is really annoying is dutch words creeping into german.

If you bastards hadn't stolen their bicycles in WW2 then the Dutch wouldn't have had to hatch this evil revenge plan.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
16-08-2006, 07:31:10
We let them use our roads with their caravans. That enough reparation.

notyoueither
16-08-2006, 07:41:34
Originally posted by Cruddy
How come German has more words than Dutch then?

'cause German is the mechano set of human languages.

notyoueither
16-08-2006, 07:45:29
In English, the sky is a vibrant shade of blue today.

In German, the sky is [ashadeofbluethatisverystrikingyetunlikethatdayin18 34butmorepleasantthanlastTuesday], but only for today! Tomorrow, we make a new word for it!

MoSe
16-08-2006, 08:38:40
Originally posted by Resource Consumer
Gee - this thread is at least 300 years old

you agist

MoSe
16-08-2006, 08:39:58
Originally posted by Oerdin
is it face to face contact? Let's here your thoughts.

you mean kissing?
or just eskimo nosing?

Oerdin
16-08-2006, 14:28:53
Take your pick.

Koshko
17-08-2006, 06:47:18
It's because most of the Americanisms sound much less retarded than the British equivalent.

Oerdin
17-08-2006, 15:29:04
True, true.

Fergus & The Brazen Car
19-08-2006, 09:44:39
Originally posted by Koshko
It's because most of the Americanisms sound much less retarded than the British equivalent.

Do tell.

'Gas' instead of petrol ? 'Faucet' instead of tap ?

'Rock' instead of stone ?

Many Americanisms such as 'rock' and 'faucet' are euphemisms because the Americans were too wimpy to say rude-sounding English words, just in case their big bad Mommy heard them and made them go to bed without milk, cookies and a bedtime smooch.

# Oh, them dirty pillows,
Oh, them dirty pillows.....#

Then there's just the out and out retarded Americanisms- calling a floury blob a 'biscuit' and biscuits 'cookies'.


Stop the linguistic jaywalking fer Crissakes!!!!

Koshko
19-08-2006, 22:23:08
UK - Fag ... USA - Cigerette

UK - Arse ... USA - Ass

UK - Bloody Hell ... USA - real swear words

UK - Chav ... USA - Douchebag

etc, etc

Vincent
20-08-2006, 05:37:56
Originally posted by notyoueither
In English, the sky is a vibrant shade of blue today.

In German, the sky is [ashadeofbluethatisverystrikingyetunlikethatdayin18 34butmorepleasantthanlastTuesday], but only for today! Tomorrow, we make a new word for it! No, actually it's grey (grau) today

notyoueither
20-08-2006, 05:49:19
Only to a contrarian.

fp
20-08-2006, 08:14:06
Originally posted by Koshko

UK - Chav ... USA - Douchebag


Wrong.

zmama
20-08-2006, 08:47:11
uk - chav....usa - trailer trash

Drekkus
20-08-2006, 10:36:15
Originally posted by Vincent
No, actually it's grey (grau) today It's greys here.

notyoueither
20-08-2006, 19:18:49
He could have been more precise.

Koshko
20-08-2006, 19:48:27
Originally posted by fp
Wrong.

Douchebag is all-encompassing. It is the top of the insult hierachy. It is the pinnacle. All other insults look up to it.

fp
20-08-2006, 22:01:35
That may be true, but it still doesn't mean the same thing as chav you douchebag.

Koshko
21-08-2006, 04:34:56
I call them douchebags. Emo kids too.

Fergus & The Brazen Car
21-08-2006, 09:24:13
Originally posted by Koshko
UK - Fag ... USA - Cigerette

UK - Arse ... USA - Ass

UK - Bloody Hell ... USA - real swear words

UK - Chav ... USA - Douchebag

etc, etc

You'll find that a cigarette is also known as a cigarette in Standard British English too. Arse is a fine old English word, dating back at least to Chaucer's time as familiarity with 'The Canterbury Tales' would tell you.

Why anyone in their right mind would wish to change it from the splendidly rude sounding 'arse' to the feeble, emasculated and euphemized 'ass' (so that's how Jebus bounced into Jerusalem!) is a secret known only to prissy, pussy-minded Puritans.

This Absolon gan wype his mouth ful drie.
Derk was the nyght as pich or as the cole,
And at the wyndow out she putte hir hole;
And Absolon, hym fil no bet ne wers,
But with his mouth he kiste hir naked ers
Ful savourly, er he were war of this.
Abak he stirte and thoughte it was amys --
For wel he wiste a womman hath no berd.



British English has lotsa juicy swear words. Thankfully we're not limited to saying 'mo'fo' on continuous loop. Oh, and 'chav' doesn't approximate to 'douchebag' of course. I think you'll find there's a different term used for our head of state.


Chin chin old bean.