View Full Version : Becks from kick to drop

11-08-2006, 10:58:37

Apparently, he'll be too old and worn out for the eventual Euro2008 finals.

11-08-2006, 11:01:07

11-08-2006, 11:01:49

Becks wasn't playing too well at the WC but he was still involved with half England's goals in the tounament, a goal and two assists.

I think he should still be in the squad, problem is, I suppose, if he's not starting, I find it hard to see a situation when you'd bring him off the bench to change a game.

11-08-2006, 11:04:41
Originally posted by King_Ghidra

I thought I WAS there!

11-08-2006, 11:27:44
Van Nistelrooij and Van Bommel are out of the squad in Holland.

Mr. Bas
11-08-2006, 11:53:34
Yeah, I think Van Basten is overdoing his experimentation. I mean, dropping Van Nistelrooij and Van Bommel in order to try out others is perfectly reasonable, but declaring that they'll most likely never play for Netherlands again is far too premature I'd say. I still have to see Kuijt, Vennegoor and Huntelaar delivering the same way that Van Nistelrooij has done for years.

11-08-2006, 11:59:41
I think Kuijt never will. Huntelaar might.

Mr. Bas
11-08-2006, 12:02:13
Huntelaar definitely has the potential, but I agree that Kuijt is simply not as good and will not become better than Van Nistelrooij in the next two years.

11-08-2006, 12:04:22
Don't understand why Liverpool want him so bad.

11-08-2006, 14:03:06
Beckham is dropped, as are David James and Sol Campbell

Ashley COLE Arsenal
Owen HARGREAVES Bayern Munich
Darren BENT Charlton Athletic
Luke YOUNG Charlton Athletic
Wayne BRIDGE Chelsea
Frank LAMPARD Chelsea
John TERRY Chelsea
Phil NEVILLE Everton
Jamie CARRAGHER Liverpool
Peter CROUCH Liverpool
Steven GERRARD Liverpool
Chris KIRKLAND Liverpool (on loan to Wigan Athletic)
Wes BROWN Manchester United
Rio FERDINAND Manchester United
Ben FOSTER Manchester United (on loan to Watford)
Gary NEVILLE Manchester United
Kieran RICHARDSON Manchester United
Stewart DOWNING Middlesbrough
Jermain DEFOE Tottenham Hotspur
Michael DAWSON Tottenham Hotspur
Aaron LENNON Tottenham Hotspur
Jermaine JENAS Tottenham Hotspur
Paul ROBINSON Tottenham Hotspur
Dean ASHTON West Ham United

11-08-2006, 14:24:32
dear steve, please explain why that piece of shit jenas continues to justify selection but one of the world's greatest crossers and set piece specialists doesn't (other than to make a pointed differentiation between yourself and the previous red faced loon)

and phil neville AGAIN!?!?!?! FFS?!?! There must must must be better players in any of the four divisions than him

as for wright phillips, well yeah great and all, but will chelsea let him out of that cupboard under the stairs to play a game?

11-08-2006, 14:32:49
I can see why Maclaren would want to change things and go with Lennon as starter on the right wing (with SWP as a sub), but leaving Becks out of the squad entirely seems odd... even if he's not playing he's got great experience. As you say, why bring Jenas AND Phil Neville in central midfield... I expect neither of them will play.

11-08-2006, 14:45:56

i'll say one thing, i have time for ashton. i'm not completely certain on the highest level he can play at, but he deserves his chance. he's at least a 'proper' striker, not some in-the-hole-monkey or winger masquerading as a goal-getter

11-08-2006, 14:50:48
Yeah, if he never gets a chance we'll never find out.

Couple of comments on the BBC saying that it's good because it takes some of the media circus away from England. I don't see that Becks not being there will change that one bit.

11-08-2006, 14:52:12
Also, what an absurd time for a friendly. They really need to sort out the international calendar.

Gramercy Riffs
11-08-2006, 15:26:13
Kieran Richardson?! Jesus.

K_G - I agree totally about P Neville and Jenas. I know he's a dickhead, but Barton is a better player than those two.

Becks should have gone a long time ago. I know, he set up half our goals at WC blah blah, but for we know, Lennon may have set up even more. This isn't rugby or American Football, being able to a kick a dead ball well just aint good enough and lets be honest, thats all he does.

11-08-2006, 15:27:30
Originally posted by Gramercy Riffs
This isn't rugby or American Football

What?! :eek:

Gramercy Riffs
11-08-2006, 15:28:28
I just thought it needed clearing up....carry on.

11-08-2006, 15:29:09
Thanks, I for one wasn't aware of that.

van Bommel the Dutchman
11-08-2006, 18:16:12
Originally posted by Drekkus
Van Nistelrooij and Van Bommel are out of the squad in Holland. :tizzy:

11-08-2006, 22:34:41
Originally posted by King_Ghidra

12-08-2006, 00:10:12
Isn't one of the best UK players a Calgarian?

Lazarus and the Gimp
12-08-2006, 07:18:00
You mean the one who, for about 90% of his international appearances, has been ineffective to the point of becoming a national laughing-stock during the World Cup? Yes.

And who in their right mind would pick Phil Neville over Reo-Coker?

12-08-2006, 07:40:47
Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
You mean the one who, for about 90% of his international appearances, has been ineffective to the point of becoming a national laughing-stock during the World Cup? Yes.
No idea, haven't watched anything.

14-08-2006, 08:03:17
He eventually, when played in his proper position for an entire game, put in one of the best performances by any England player in the tournament.

14-08-2006, 12:49:03
I'm glad that Dawson got picked - he outplayed Ledley King last season and deserves his selection. Even I think Jenas is crap, though. Obviously Neville is another baffling choice. Barton and Reo-Coker are both significantly better than those two.

Richardson isn't an international class player either and we don't need him in the squad.

If it was up to me and I have Gerrard in the middle alongside the Germano-Canadian Englishman. Lampard could do with sitting out a game or two IMHO.

14-08-2006, 12:56:49
Yeah, Lampard's current form isn't great, and he totally didn't look fit in the Charity Shield.

14-08-2006, 17:53:56
What do people think about the strikers? Crouch and Defoe? Can't say I'm convinced by that.

Crouch and Ashton? No, that doesn't float my boat either.

I don't know which way to go. I agree with K_G that it's nice to have a "proper striker" in the squad, so I'd really like to see Ashton play, but I've no idea who I'd pair him with,

Lazarus and the Gimp
14-08-2006, 18:25:19
Ashton and Defoe isn't a terrible combination.

Mr. Bas
15-08-2006, 09:26:55
Theo Janssen has been called up to replace Sneijder. It'd be interesting to see how he and Schaars will do, he definitely has the necessary talent. Still, I hope Van Bommel gets a fair chance during this campaign as well, it's way too early for Van Basten to be as dismissive as he is now.

15-08-2006, 12:56:37
The team has been announced:

Paul Robinson
Gary Neville
Rio Ferdinand
John Terry (captain)
Ashley Cole
Steven Gerrard
Owen Hargreaves
Frank Lampard
Stewart Downing
Jermain Defoe
Peter Crouch

Ashton got injured in training and Gerrard will play on the right.

15-08-2006, 13:01:13
mclaren's revolution has begun! the team is unrecognisable!

15-08-2006, 13:01:40
How utterly uninspiring.

15-08-2006, 13:07:24
what happened to lennon? they were showing footage yesterday of him scoring a great goal in training where he went round about 3 players and smashed it into the top corner.

15-08-2006, 13:22:26
With the injuries, that's not a terrible side... but on current form I think I'd have to drop Lampard, have Gerrard and Hargreaves in the center and Lennon on the right. And I'm not convinced about Downing either...