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devilmunchkin
05-07-2006, 21:20:09
article on men (http://lifestyle.msn.com/Relationships/CouplesandMarriage/ArticleRB.aspx?cp-documentid=604574&GT1=8368)

how much of that article is true and how much is bullshit?

*End Is Forever*
05-07-2006, 21:27:45
Mostly bullshit.

Koshko
05-07-2006, 21:33:10
Secret #1: Yes, we fall in lust 10 times a day -- but it doesn't mean we want to leave you
Pretty much yeah. You really don't want to know how many different women your respective boyfriends have mentally fucked.

Secret #2: We actually do play golf to get away from you
Golf bores me, but everyone needs their alone time

Secret #3: We're unnerved by the notion of commitment, even after we've made one to you
Depends on the guy

Secret #4: Earning money makes us feel important
Being able to afford the things we need is what really makes us feel important

Secret #5: Though we often protest, we actually enjoy fixing things around the house
If it comes down to fixing or cleaning, we'll probably fix ... even if most of us should never be allowed near tools

Secret #6: We like it when you mother us, but we're terrified that you'll become your mother
lol ... so true

Secret #7: Every year we love you more
Given the number of divorces in this country, this often isn't the case appearently

Secret #8: We don't really understand what you're talking about
TRUE!

Secret #9: We are terrified when you drive
I don't like being a passenger period, but this isn't true in many cases.

Secret #10: We'll always wish we were 25 again
We wish we were 25 and we wish you still looked like you are 25.

Secret #11: Give us an inch and we'll give you a lifetime
Well giving your mate personal space is always a good thing.

devilmunchkin
05-07-2006, 21:54:39
..i am 25.

Koshko
05-07-2006, 22:02:43
Well I was talking about after say 15 years of marriage.

Gary
05-07-2006, 22:12:23
Yes, we fall in lust 10 times a day -- but it doesn't mean we want to leave you

Exaggeration. Probably fair to say we know we wouldn't object to sex with any of many of women we see during the day especially true during the summer) but we don't dwell enough on it to justify the term 'lust' really. Don't women fancy the guys they see too ?

Oh and yes, out of politeness and our partner's feeling we try not to make it obvious we've looked at another woman, while they are there.

We actually do play golf to get away from you

I don't play golf and suspect it is generally unlikely. That's not to say it isn't good to be in an all male environment at times. One gets different things from different situations, conversation subjects in a particular can be different. Subject matter can overlap but is not identical.

I'm sure it's nice to get away from the kids on occasion also.

We're unnerved by the notion of commitment, even after we've made one to you

I think he is speaking for himself here. Everyone can wonder about commitment at times but I don't think one gender is any more or less effected than the other.

The desire to bed lots of women isn't the same thing, but yes, is a good fantasy. :cute:

Earning money makes us feel important

Up to a point. The wage slip is the single most important indicator of what our employer thinks of us. And yes there is a cultural thing about being a provider still. It's the later thing that means most would probably need to make a conscious decision to not be bothered if our partner earned more than ourselves. Some would find it easier than others. I've not been in the situation and think it wouldn't bother me, but I can't be sure. Damn cultural expectations.

Though we often protest, we actually enjoy fixing things around the house

Some do some don't. One can't expect what interests one to interest all, Personally I take on far too much DIY stuff and it gets to me on occasion. But if I've not got something on the go I start looking at what to do next. Have to say that "improvement" is infinitely more interesting than "fixing".

We like it when you mother us, but we're terrified that you'll become your mother

Never really thought about it. I don't ever imagine my partner will become my mother (whatever that mean)s. There are occasions when it is nice to have someone do things for us, and other times when the reverse is true.

Every year we love you more

Love changes but doesn't necessarily grow. Early on it's lots of lust and a little friendship. In later years the ratio has reversed. Relationships change, one has to make sure that, if it is important, it doesn't result in growing apart.

We don't really understand what you're talking about

Sometimes. It's when we're expected to mind read what it was you were thinking before the conversation started. And trying not to get to the stage where it's noticed and we have to point out, "No you didn't say anything about this before". Generally though, it's fine.

We are terrified when you drive

Sometimes :D Usually everything is fine (even if over cautious and usually in the wrong lane) but there are occasions....

We'll always wish we were 25 again

A bit specific stating a particular age, but there's a ring of truth to it. I find the 40s are when things start deteriorating. Who wouldn't want to be young again ? Not that it's something one dwells on much.

Give us an inch and we'll give you a lifetime

Up to a point. Doesn't everyone warm to someone who thinks of your wants ? It should be the start of a great give & take relationship.

Gary
05-07-2006, 22:19:18
Originally posted by devilmunchkin
..i am 25. Yes... but do you look 25 ?

devilmunchkin
05-07-2006, 22:45:38
i don't know. i'm told i look a bit younger....

i thought that article sounded a bit overdone. i thought i'd pass it by you guys.

JM^3
06-07-2006, 00:28:39
some guys are probably like some of that

JM

JM^3
06-07-2006, 00:29:09
I will tell you that a guy without a girlfreind is tihnking about sex all the time..

JM

Greg W
06-07-2006, 01:03:39
Secret #1: Yes, we fall in lust 10 times a day -- but it doesn't mean we want to leave you
When you are young, yes. As you get a bit older, less so. Most guys I know will always have a perve at a cute girl, but most of them would never dream of doing anything about it. Then again, there's a lot of guys who would (do something).

Secret #2: We actually do play golf to get away from you
Sorry, but that one's bull, complete and utter. A very small percentage of guys might, but saying that we only play to get away from you? Most guys I know play cos it's a good way to spend some time with your mates.

Secret #3: We're unnerved by the notion of commitment, even after we've made one to you
Very much an individual thing. Doesn't bother me in the slightest, but I know some guys who it does. They're in the minority from what I've seen though.

Secret #4: Earning money makes us feel important
Teh same applies for a lot of women. Again, very person dependant.

Secret #5: Though we often protest, we actually enjoy fixing things around the house
I do, but that's just me. But then, I don't protest about it. :cute:

Secret #6: We like it when you mother us, but we're terrified that you'll become your mother
I actually don't like being mothered. By anyone. Looked aftre, yes, mothered, no.

Secret #7: Every year we love you more
Works for me, but again, very person dependant.

Secret #8: We don't really understand what you're talking about
On occasions. Then again, many women don't understand men, which shocks me, cos we're (mostly) not that hard to understand.

Secret #9: We are terrified when you drive
Case by case basis. My recent g/f, yes, I was somewhat worried about the health of my rims every time we went around a left hand corner. In general, no.

Secret #10: We'll always wish we were 25 again
Who doesn't want to be younger again?

Secret #11: Give us an inch and we'll give you a lifetime
God, what an oversimplification. Yes, some space occasionally is a good thing. I'm sure that even women like a night away from their partner every now and then.

Gibsie
06-07-2006, 01:17:43
Somewhat true, but, by god, you shouldn't need msfeckingn to tell you that!!

devilmunchkin
06-07-2006, 03:19:17
i read their articles sometimes. sometimes they just...sound like bullshit. but i'm not a guy..and alot of times i don't understand guys..or don't want to. i dunno

Cruddy
06-07-2006, 04:29:53
Secret #10: We'll always wish we were 25 again



You gotta be kidding. That was one of the lowest points of my life.

Stereotyping bullshit of the highest order. Burn it together with Mein Kampf, Chairman Mao's little red book, and the Conservative Manifesto.

Sod it, shove every manifesto on the fire. Let's have a good healthy flame.

Greg W
06-07-2006, 08:07:00
Originally posted by devilmunchkin
i read their articles sometimes. sometimes they just...sound like bullshit. but i'm not a guy..and alot of times i don't understand guys..or don't want to. i dunno Half the problem is that women are always looking for too many meanings behind anything we do.

If we perve at a chick, we're thinking of (or already are) cheating on her or moving to another girl. If we go down the pub with some mates, we're either trying to get away from her, or trying to pick up. If we play golf, we're just trying to get away from her.

No, in fact if we're perving, it's cos she looks nice, and averyone likes looking at nice things. Just to a man, a pretty woman fits that bill. Nothing more. No deep (or shallow) fantasies.

If we go down the pub, we probably just want to have a few beers and act like apes with our mates.

If we want to have a round of golf, we probably just want to have a round of golf.

And most importantly - if we ask for a threesome with you and your best friend. We actually want a threesome with you and your best friend*. ;)




* Sorry, it had to be said. :nervous:

Funko
06-07-2006, 09:14:48
Pretty much entirely bullshit like most of these articles.

Funko
06-07-2006, 09:17:28
:lol: @ Greg.

It's true, most of the stuff we do has absolutely no hidden meaning.

And the thing about boys looking at girls annoys me girls look at guys all the time too, they just have better peripheral vision so it's less obvious that they're doing it. Everyone looks at attractive people all the time, even subconciously, scientists have measured it and everything.

Nills Lagerbaak
06-07-2006, 09:22:24
Yes, with a fitometer!

But these articles are a damming indictment of girls though, if they think that everything we do has a hidden meaning, they are implying that everything they do has a hidden meaning.

It's the old "complicated vs. simple" argument...

paiktis22
06-07-2006, 11:56:16
Secret #1: Yes, we fall in lust 10 times a day -- but it doesn't mean we want to leave you[/b]

Pretty much true.

Secret #2: We actually do play golf to get away from you
What is golf? but i think we need our time alone

Secret#3 We're unnerved by the notion of commitment, even after we've made one to you

Depends on the girl

Secret #4: Earning money makes us feel important
Not so much as being able to do things that money allows makes us feel sufficient. that isn't specific to gender i think

Secret #5: Though we often protest, we actually enjoy fixing things around the house

We don't complain and we're always willing to fix things! The question is do you really want that.

Secret #6: We like it when you mother us, but we're terrified that you'll become your mother
true, true (eh what was the qeustion again?)

Secret #7: Every year we love you more
Or less. depends on the girl.

Secret #8: We don't really understand what you're talking about
on many occasions it's true :D

Secret #9: We are terrified when you drive
actually we are just bracing ourselves to respond to the certain abuse you're going to hear from passing by drivers

Secret #10: We'll always wish we were 25 again
please no!

Secret #11: Give us an inch and we'll give you a lifetime
how much is that in cm?

Funko
06-07-2006, 12:06:43
2.54

paiktis22
06-07-2006, 12:07:16
thank you Funko :D

Gary
06-07-2006, 12:39:26
I tend to want more than that.

Tizzy
06-07-2006, 13:23:21
Originally posted by Nills Lagerbaak
Yes, with a fitometer!

But these articles are a damming indictment of girls though, if they think that everything we do has a hidden meaning, they are implying that everything they do has a hidden meaning.

It's the old "complicated vs. simple" argument...

Nope, just means we're more paranoid and think too much.

Immortal Wombat
06-07-2006, 13:28:09
Originally posted by Gary
I tend to want more than that. I bet that's what all the girls say.

Nills Lagerbaak
06-07-2006, 13:32:09
Originally posted by Tizzy
Nope, just means we're more paranoid and think too much.

Oh dear, even worse :p

Dyl Ulenspiegel
06-07-2006, 13:46:59
Originally posted by Funko

And the thing about boys looking at girls annoys me girls look at guys all the time too, they just have better peripheral vision so it's less obvious that they're doing it.

We just can't get out of that hunter program, and they still function as gatherers.... :D

Dyl Ulenspiegel
06-07-2006, 13:49:01
Originally posted by Tizzy
Nope, just means we.... think too much.

OOOOOHHHH BLOODY YES!!!!!

I'm always amazed by the amount of thinking that women can allocate to the most trivial things. Unless they've been through 100 reasons, consequences and what-ifs it doesn't even count....

Nills Lagerbaak
06-07-2006, 14:17:39
Yeah, if only they could harness that awesome ability to analyse every situation to pieces, they'd be dangerous!

paiktis22
06-07-2006, 15:13:28
they should relaaax

devilmunchkin
06-07-2006, 21:54:59
Originally posted by Nills Lagerbaak
Yes, with a fitometer!

But these articles are a damming indictment of girls though, if they think that everything we do has a hidden meaning, they are implying that everything they do has a hidden meaning.

It's the old "complicated vs. simple" argument...

but i thought a guy was the one who wrote it...
i know! it's a secret conspiracy by guys to make women stay on this mad hatter path.

Nope, just means we're more paranoid and think too much.

I'd have to agree with that. I do that alot.

It's true, most of the stuff we do has absolutely no hidden meaning.

It's not that you have a hidden meaning..it's that you guys sometimes hide things (like the porn collection or your other girlfriends).

Yeah, if only they could harness that awesome ability to analyse every situation to pieces, they'd be dangerous!

i already do this. rawr! i'm dangerous...like a mouse..

Koshko
06-07-2006, 21:58:49
These magazines thrive on the fact that women seem to think that men are much more complicated then we really are.

devilmunchkin
06-07-2006, 22:06:17
you mean you all really arn't sentient beings? ;)

JM^3
06-07-2006, 22:08:39
We are pretty simple often, unfortunately.

JM

devilmunchkin
06-07-2006, 22:09:25
like babies:
eat, sleep, poop, pee

JM^3
06-07-2006, 22:32:08
you forgot video games and sex

JM

Koshko
07-07-2006, 00:12:55
and thinknig about sex while doing any of the above

Christoph
07-07-2006, 00:19:14
Secret #1: Yes, we fall in lust 10 times a day -- but it doesn't mean we want to leave you

Yup

Secret #2: We actually do play golf to get away from you

I'd rather eat glass than play golf. I go skatepark to get away from the GF :P

Secret #3: We're unnerved by the notion of commitment, even after we've made one to you

Yes

Secret #4: Earning money makes us feel important

I wish I had money

Secret #5: Though we often protest, we actually enjoy fixing things around the house

I'm 17 I wouldn't know

Secret #6: We like it when you mother us, but we're terrified that you'll become your mother

Yep

Secret #7: Every year we love you more

Not at my age, I get bored

Secret #8: We don't really understand what you're talking about

I do! Does that make me gay?

Secret #9: We are terrified when you drive

Considering she can't drive then yes, I'd be bricking it

Secret #10: We'll always wish we were 25 again

No

Secret #11: Give us an inch and we'll give you a lifetime

Yes space is good.

Greg W
07-07-2006, 00:20:28
Thinking about sex is a constant. It's like when you hit puberty, someone flicks the switch, and it gets stuck. No way to turn it off unfortunately. ;)

Can't believe you left drink beer off that list though. :mad:

Greg W
07-07-2006, 00:21:35
Originally posted by Christoph
Secret #8: We don't really understand what you're talking about

I do! Does that make me gay?Yep.

devilmunchkin
07-07-2006, 02:40:18
i didn't think about beer. my ex doesn't drink alcochol...
but shame on me b/c i should have known better with the guys :(

Greg W
07-07-2006, 03:48:38
That's allright, you still know more about men than I know about women. And I've had almost 10 more years to get to know them. :clueless:

;)

Koshko
07-07-2006, 04:16:35
I don't drink either.

Greg W
07-07-2006, 04:33:54
That's impossible. You'd dehydrate. :p

JM^3
07-07-2006, 04:34:00
I think I will stop drinking

JM

King_Ghidra
07-07-2006, 08:23:36
less thinking, more action jm

Oerdin
07-07-2006, 09:52:52
Originally posted by Greg W
Yep.

Naw, he's not gay just 17. When he reaches 25 he'll realize he never understood much, he only thought he understood everything. ;)

Greg W
07-07-2006, 10:17:41
Yeah, but it's more fun just saying yep. :D

devilmunchkin
07-07-2006, 16:24:24
it's the path of least resistance

Christoph
07-07-2006, 18:33:52
:lol:

Scabrous Birdseed
08-07-2006, 11:55:07
So reading between the lines, the guy has been married once, the statements are about him and the only woman he's comparing himself to is his wife.

And that's an authority? :hmm:

AND he's qualified to make generalisations? And about all men, and by inference all women? Wow, the man must have a source of knowledge beyond that of even the most well-researched scientist.

devilmunchkin
08-07-2006, 12:25:18
that's msn