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HelloKitty
24-06-2006, 12:48:13
I don't think we have racial bias in Texas anymore," said Rep. John Carter


http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/3991488.html

:beer:

Welcome to utopia!

Oerdin
25-06-2006, 01:20:36
Several Texas Republicans also objected to the law's requirement that jurisdictions print ballots in other languages if 5 percent or more of their voting-age populations have limited English skills.

"I simply believe you should be able to read, write and speak English to be a voter in the United States," Carter said.

Of course those dirty little brown people don't vote Republican so it's not like the Republicans want them to vote. All citizens should have access to voter information in a language they understand but now we're going to see more dirty tricks and more voters denied their right to vote because the party in power doesn't like the way they vote.

Gary
25-06-2006, 09:51:44
And the language they understand should be the language of the country they have chosen to live in. It is only polite to develop a working knowledge of your country of residence's language. Most impolite to expect the country to cater to you beyond any initial arrival period.

Scabrous Birdseed
25-06-2006, 13:12:31
And only polite people should be allowed to vote.

HelloKitty
25-06-2006, 16:19:32
Originally posted by Gary
And the language they understand should be the language of the country they have chosen to live in. It is only polite to develop a working knowledge of your country of residence's language. Most impolite to expect the country to cater to you beyond any initial arrival period.

The US doesn't have a national language.

Vincent
25-06-2006, 17:09:55
Doh. It's German!

Christoph
25-06-2006, 19:24:00
It's American!

color

Dyl Ulenspiegel
25-06-2006, 19:56:58
It's gibberish.

Christoph
25-06-2006, 20:02:37
FACT

Provost Harrison
28-06-2006, 11:07:04
Actually I agree with Gary...I wouldn't expect to be able to integrate into a country without a full working knowledge of the language...

King_Ghidra
28-06-2006, 11:27:42
but as kitty says, there is no national language, so unless they pass such a law, what are you integrating into?

Provost Harrison
28-06-2006, 11:55:51
It appears to me that there is no legally defined national language, but let's face reality, what is the majority language in the US, and in which language are all business, political and legal transactions performed. All but in writing...

King_Ghidra
28-06-2006, 12:01:50
well there is another reality, and that is if you live in an ethnic community you can probably conduct 95% of your life without speaking a word of english

Gary
28-06-2006, 12:37:41
That's where lack of integration gets you.

Japher
28-06-2006, 12:41:14
totally

I have no problem with immigration, but...

you leave your country for something better, right? So why are you turning your new country into the old one?

Assimilate or go back.

King_Ghidra
28-06-2006, 12:47:01
Originally posted by Japher
you leave your country for something better, right? So why are you turning your new country into the old one?

err...

If i live in the uk and have all the benefits of being a UK citizen, but speak mostly in my ethnic tongue and earn 10 times more money, then i definitely have something better.

But how am i 'turning [my] new country into the old one?' exactly?

Japher
28-06-2006, 12:50:48
have you ever been to LA? It's a dump. Same with El Paso. It's like Mexico. Then they all complain about the conditions they created.

Also, having been to Jury Duty in San Jose I have to say that it's insulting. About 1 in every 3 people claimed not speak english. Jury Duty is your civic duty, and it requires that you speak english. Some of the people have lived her for 10+ years, owned buisnesses, and claimed not speak English. The judge was visibly pissed.

King_Ghidra
28-06-2006, 12:55:44
Originally posted by Japher
About 1 in every 3 people claimed not speak english.[...]Some of the people have lived her for 10+ years, owned buisnesses, and claimed not speak English.

Me speak english good. Me not claim not speak english.

Japher
28-06-2006, 12:59:12
they go "no understand"

and the judge goes "you mean to tell me, that you can't comprehend what I am verbilizing to you?"

they go "no"

judge goes " I have a hard time believing that you own 7 laundry mats, have lived here for 15+ years, have 6 kids who attend our school system, and that now when you are asked to perform your civil duty you decide to lie."

they go "I am sorry, but I do not speak your language"

Venom
28-06-2006, 13:00:38
All I know is that if I have to get in line behind one more wetback while they try to awkwardly order food or pay for something without being able to speak a word of English, I might just go insane. Or even more insane. Takes them 15 minutes to order a damn sandwich and then they stand there with that fucking sheepish look on there face, like "Opps, my bad. I forgot I couldn't speak a god damn word of English when I left my shack with my 25 roommates this morning."

King_Ghidra
28-06-2006, 13:00:43
japher what the fuck does that have to do with the original point? no one is defending liars.

But if your genuine answer to:

"But how am i 'turning [my] new country into the old one?' exactly?"

is 'LA is a dump' then you are way beyond stupid.

King_Ghidra
28-06-2006, 13:06:35
Originally posted by Venom
All I know is that if I have to get in line behind one more wetback while they try to awkwardly order food or pay for something without being able to speak a word of English, I might just go insane. Or even more insane. Takes them 15 minutes to order a damn sandwich and then they stand there with that fucking sheepish look on there face, like "Opps, my bad. I forgot I couldn't speak a god damn word of English when I left my shack with my 25 roommates this morning."

but surely the guy behind the counter is an immigrant too, can't they just speak spanish to each other :D

Venom
28-06-2006, 13:09:10
Maybe in LA. But here, if it's a fast food place, the person behind the counter could very well be black. THEN you're in for some cross cultural communication issues. I've seen them have to go in to the back of the restaurant and get a dishwasher to translate. The dishwashers are always mexican.

Japher
28-06-2006, 13:13:35
no one is defending liars? no one is punishing them either!

I don't disagree with the OP, I think there oughta be laws to protect those who live in this country that don't speak english.

At the same time I don't think that a person should receive all rights and privileges of country if that can't also pay the dues. And, unfortunately, speaking English is required to pay those dues.

LA is a dump because of immigration. Most border towns have problems because of immigration. If you can't see that then you are beyond stupid.

Venom
28-06-2006, 13:15:39
Two words of proof: Nuevo Laredo.

King_Ghidra
28-06-2006, 13:18:53
so that would all be solved by getting them to speak english? are you serious?

I don't know how it could be proved one way or the other, but i sincerely doubt LA is a dump solely because of immigration

notwithstanding the obvious fact that your economy is propped up by low-wage immigrants, and if you think it's a dump now what do you think it will be like if you kick em out?

Venom
28-06-2006, 13:19:59
The other part of kicking out the illegals is forcing the homeless to work. It's a perfect plan!

King_Ghidra
28-06-2006, 13:22:29
don't forget the prison population!

Venom
28-06-2006, 13:23:11
Those we don't execute first!

Dyl Ulenspiegel
28-06-2006, 13:23:12
Originally posted by Japher
have you ever been to LA? It's a dump. Same with El Paso. It's like Mexico. Then they all complain about the conditions they created.

Also, having been to Jury Duty in San Jose

I find it absolutely hilarious that you complain about cities named Los Angeles, El Paso and San Jose turning mexican. :D

Japher
28-06-2006, 13:23:30
not just the homeless, but the disrespectful little kids!

KG, I don't think you understand.

Japher
28-06-2006, 13:25:10
I find it absolutely hilarious that you complain about Los Angeles, El Paso and San Jose turning mexican.

I don't mind Mexicans. I have a lot of Mexican friends. I mind wetbacks, beaners, and vatos.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
28-06-2006, 13:35:06
Sounds naughty.

Nills Lagerbaak
28-06-2006, 13:40:49
Some of my best friends are beaners.

Colon
28-06-2006, 13:53:31
Originally posted by Japher
I don't mind Mexicans. I have a lot of Mexican friends.

Wish you didn't say that. I've sort of come to notice that the first thing a bigot *always* does is proclaim he's got nothing against x-people and that he has many friends in x-group. Just go ask any VB'er around here on his opinion about foreigners, and it's the first thing they always do.
If one really is this indifferent to skin colour, it wouldn't even occur to him his friends are x-people.

Japher
28-06-2006, 14:01:12
No, the color of my friends occurs to me.

I'm not color blind, nor am I claiming to not be racist. I have tons of prejudices.

I think people who claim to be color blind with respect to race are trying to hard to not be racist and as a result disrespect the person for who they are. And, in many cases, become culture blind as well.

I respect, invite, and enjoy diversity.

Gary
28-06-2006, 14:04:14
I don't mind Counterglowers. I have a lot of Counterglow friends.

Japher
28-06-2006, 14:04:58
no you don't

Fistandantilus
28-06-2006, 14:06:01
Ok, we teach english in our schools here with the only purpose of being able to order an hot dog.. now you're saying it's not enough? :cry:

Japher
28-06-2006, 14:08:25
to Venom, ordering a hotdog is huge... he's going to be driving 45 minutes each way to work at a Hotdog on a Stick!

Chris
30-06-2006, 13:16:43
Texas sucks.

Caligastia
30-06-2006, 14:07:39
Lack of a common language is the best way to segregate people.

King_Ghidra
30-06-2006, 14:17:37
god pioneered that technique

Funko
30-06-2006, 14:21:01
dat is waarom wij allen Nederlands spreken

Oerdin
30-06-2006, 14:21:44
Originally posted by Japher
they go "no understand"

and the judge goes "you mean to tell me, that you can't comprehend what I am verbilizing to you?"

they go "no"

judge goes " I have a hard time believing that you own 7 laundry mats, have lived here for 15+ years, have 6 kids who attend our school system, and that now when you are asked to perform your civil duty you decide to lie."

they go "I am sorry, but I do not speak your language"

That's just because they don't want to be on a jury so they play the race card. I'm just pissed that white boys like me can't do the same. :(

Japher
30-06-2006, 14:23:00
I tried

I shouldn't of gone with the cantonese accent

Oerdin
30-06-2006, 14:27:17
Oh, and the majority of LA is a dump. A dump with enclaves of extraordinarially rich people. Most of LA's dumpiness can be chalked up to it being old and the original urban design being crap (or rather there was no urban planning conducted) but the spraypaint every where and the gangmembers on street corners have more to do with Latino culture then with the lack of urban planning. Then of course there is the bureaucratic problems which one of the worst school districts in the country, a corrupt police department, and politicians whose incompetance have chased out just about every investor imaginable. That city is fucked and hoefully it will burn down soon so we can start over.

Japher
30-06-2006, 14:30:39
We should turn it into a prison.