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Oerdin
18-05-2006, 17:22:14
So my car got stolen last week and the cops finally found it about 20 miles away a day or so ago. My 40 GB Creative Zentouch MP=3 player had been stolen, a brand new camera phone my employer gave me had been stolen, and my Cannon S400 digital camera (along with a 1GB memory card) had also been stolen. The car itself had the driver’s side door lock broken with a screw driver or something and the same had been done with the ignition lock. The clutch master cylinder for the car’s hydraulic clutch was broken so the clutch was on the floor without any pressure (the mechanic said it looks like they’d been speed shifting so hard it broke the hydraulic clutch), the battery was dead (they abandoned the car with the lights on after they’d broken the clutch, and the windows were left rolled down so rain got on the interior.

Total repair costs are as follows:

-Tow to mechanic’s shop – Free since I am a AAA club member
- Fee for the mechanic to diagnose the problems - $98
- Cost for a new hydraulic clutch master cylinder (along with a hose and labor) - $345
- Cost to fix door lock and have the new lock rekeyed - $80
- Cost to fix ignition lock (Ford doesn’t sell just the ignition lock so you have to buy a whole new steering column) - $500

Total $1023 plus tax and that doesn’t include the cost of my stolen property. Since the car was so old I only had minimal insurance coverage so this is all out of pocket expenses. I’m thinking about not fixing the ignition lock simply because I don’t want to spend the extra $500 on a car this old. The problem would be then anyone can turn the car on with just a straight piece of metal. This sucks.

paiktis22
18-05-2006, 17:28:25
I sympathise.

For maximum possible security I recommend a steel, 4 way lock, bar (don't know the word in english) which you place on your steering wheel. It's very hard to steal your car when you have one of those. Not impossible but this will take them a very long time, so they usually go to the next. They can still break into the car of course with no problem but can't move it.

mr.G
18-05-2006, 17:29:49
cars are sooooooo 2005!!

shagnasty
18-05-2006, 17:33:42
jesjes. ^^

We should all be riding supah-gay pink scooters

Darkstar
18-05-2006, 17:57:22
Sorry to hear that, Oerdin. That totally sucks.

How much is the car worth, fixed? Is it worth just buying a new car and selling/scrapping your old beast?

MOBIUS
18-05-2006, 18:50:44
Sorry to hear about your loss Oerdin, that sucks...

One question though is why you had all that stuff in the car in the first place?

I never keep valuables in my car at all - ever!

:(

Asher
18-05-2006, 18:54:23
1) Buy a real car with an alarm system
2) Don't leave valuables in the car

Japher
18-05-2006, 19:01:25
or leave your keys in your car, and leave the car unlocked... wouldn't of had all them costs

Oerdin
18-05-2006, 19:22:25
Originally posted by Darkstar
Sorry to hear that, Oerdin. That totally sucks.

How much is the car worth, fixed? Is it worth just buying a new car and selling/scrapping your old beast?

Not much. $1200-$1400 but there is still some usable life left in it. Since I am generally I cheap bastard I want to pull every last mile out of a car before I buy a new one but this one might have reached the end of its road.

Darkstar
18-05-2006, 20:13:18
You are already at a little over $1000 for repairs. And it's rare for old cars getting work to not have some new issues "discovered" while being worked on.

I'd be very tempted to get a new slightly less rusty/busted bug.

Darkstar
18-05-2006, 20:18:02
Japher, that's not true. Many car thieves will break the window even when the door is unlocked, and they will break the ignition, even though the ignition keys are hanging from the rear view mirror. True story. Look at any rural community that is getting sub-urbanized, and you'll find plenty of stories where the people leave their keys in their vehicles and unlocked, but city theives out on a lark are still doing what they know. (Country people/rednecks know you just open the door and look for the key or pull out a screw driver cause the car is so old, the ignition don't take no key no more since it broke off and had to be dug out of the column ;) .)

devilmunchkin
18-05-2006, 20:21:02
what could you get for a trade in on it?
i'm so scared of car burglaries now ; ;

Diss
18-05-2006, 21:01:48
mine has an anti-theft system. I'm not sure how good it is. But they won't find out they can't steal it until they bust my window and ignition. Just to repair that would be pricey.

Darkstar
18-05-2006, 21:10:57
Not much of an anti-theft system is it?

Most common thing to happen would be they bust your window and strip out anything you've left in the car, or take your stereo if it isn't a total piece of shit. Or take your speakers, even if they are total crap.

Qaj the Fuzzy Love Worm
18-05-2006, 21:18:14
My car has a crap stereo, 2 backed-up CDs, and 12 liters of soda in it. Total value: about $6. It's an automatic with a lightweight engine (but gets good fuel economy) so I'm hoping it's not an attractive target for theft or joyriding. Plus I never wash it either so it looks unimpressive :D

Oerdin, so long as you never tell anyone the ignition lock is "unlocked", the only people who will ever find out is the next set of thieves, and chances are they could circumvent that anyway the same way these recent ones did once they're in.

Darkstar
18-05-2006, 21:20:23
Well, there is also anyone he lets travel with him as well. They'll notice when he uses a screw driver or whatever to start the car.

Qaj the Fuzzy Love Worm
19-05-2006, 02:47:34
He can still use a key. Or tell people to catch the bus.

paiktis22
19-05-2006, 11:16:40
Another nice trick which I do is to leave the little closet inside the car open with nothing inside it. that way they can hopefully see i'm consciously not leaving anything of value in the car. hadn't had my car broekn into since i did that. (and installing an alarm, and getting a steel bar and covering it with a hood).

MOBIUS
19-05-2006, 11:42:41
Yes, there's plenty of places I've driven in (particularly Southern Spain) where to avoid damage to your car you leave your glovebox open and remove the covering to your boot, so any potential thieves can see for a fact you have nothing of value in your car!

Diss
19-05-2006, 19:09:40
my glovebox isn't big enough to put anything of value into it. :)

paiktis22
20-05-2006, 12:30:54
Originally posted by MOBIUS
Yes, there's plenty of places I've driven in (particularly Southern Spain) where to avoid damage to your car you leave your glovebox open and remove the covering to your boot, so any potential thieves can see for a fact you have nothing of value in your car!

aahh thanks. i've always wondered how i can make them see i have nothing in the port baggage either. i'm not going this far though. one indice is enough. the time they broken into the car they even stole the ashtray of the back seat. the ashtray for fook shake. now i have people asking me if i gave up smoking.

Oerdin
20-05-2006, 17:15:01
Maybe it was the public health officials who broke into your car. ;)

Scabrous Birdseed
20-05-2006, 18:33:23
Originally posted by paiktis22
i have people asking me if i gave up smoking.

Don't be ridiculous. You're greek!

Dyl Ulenspiegel
20-05-2006, 19:14:05
Originally posted by Diss
my glovebox isn't big enough to put anything of value into it. :)

Is that a King Ghidra quote?

MOBIUS
20-05-2006, 19:34:10
Surely that would be the opposite of a K_G quote?

Cruddy
21-05-2006, 13:52:45
Originally posted by Oerdin
This sucks.

Yes it does. But that's joyrides dude. Just stealing a car and running it into the ground. Pity they didn't torch it, you could have claimed on the fire insurance.

Now, with the professional car theives, they steal the car and camouflage it so it's never found again.

Needless to say, they go for for the more expensive motors.

Any amount of joyriders been shot dead in Northern Ireland. This is wha happens when joyful youth meets martial law in the form of roadblocks.

Oerdin
21-05-2006, 16:40:14
I'm all for shooting car thieves as long as they have the courtesy to get out of my car before they get shot so they don't bleed on my car's interior.

Vincent
22-05-2006, 19:46:42
My car was stolen too and 255 bars of gold and z´the Stratocaster Hendrix played in Woodstock and the Romanian crown jewels!

mr_G
22-05-2006, 19:51:31
they stole your crown jewels....man that's bad

Vincent
22-05-2006, 19:57:44
I'm bulgarian, not romanian

mr_G
22-05-2006, 20:06:03
okay like yochurt

mr_G
22-05-2006, 20:06:25
yo yo

MDA
23-05-2006, 11:30:03
I saw an "ex-professional car thief" demonstrate stealing a car with one of those locking bars on the steering wheel - it cost him a few extra seconds - he just cut through part of the steering wheel with a mini-hack and wrenched the bar off through the gap in the wheel. Nothing you can do about those guys, takes them less than a minute to get in and get away.

Joyriders and small-time thieves just get discouraged and will steal your neighbor's car. :D

paiktis22
23-05-2006, 12:40:20
how can they cut through steel with a mini hack in a few seconds?

mr_G
23-05-2006, 12:43:14
they are ninjas, you can't actually see them.

paiktis22
23-05-2006, 12:45:03
they must be thin ninjas.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
23-05-2006, 14:12:42
What abou the data-ninjas? Did they steal Oerdin's identity? Did they post the retarded thread about poly?

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/23/washington/23identity.html?hp&ex=1148443200&en=52ab118ae5960d87&ei=5094&partner=homepage


"WASHINGTON, May 22 — Personal electronic information on up to 26.5 million military veterans, including their Social Security numbers and birth dates, was stolen from the residence of a Department of Veterans Affairs employee who had taken the data home without authorization, the agency said Monday.

...

The combination of names, Social Security numbers and dates of birth "means that 26.5 million people could — could — become victims of identity theft," she said."

MDA
23-05-2006, 16:52:41
I don't think there is much metal in a steering wheel. Its probably a safety thing. Its easier for rescue people to cut people out of their cars after bad accidents.

I googled around - you can buy bigger steering locks that cover two big arcs on the circumference of the wheel that make cutting through it and pulling the bar off pretty much impossible.

paiktis22
23-05-2006, 16:54:29
i misread then. i understood he cut through the steel lock bar, not the wheel. which is mostly plastic yes.