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devilmunchkin
07-05-2006, 10:47:43
preparing to buy my first car and wanted to ask the advice of you seasons guys out there. I've decided on the model and i've found 2 offers. Just not sure which is the best.
1) used 2004 model 7.9k 41k mi no warranty. have to purchase separately if i want it.
2) new 2006 for 10.5k no miles and 5 year full warrantly included. BUT my parents have to drive it half way across the country and i have to get their help etc.

Chris
07-05-2006, 10:49:49
Take the new one, parents are meant to be abused.

devilmunchkin
07-05-2006, 10:52:26
i'm just worried there is some unseen catch with them...

Spartak@CPH
07-05-2006, 10:53:29
What the parents?

JM^3
07-05-2006, 11:02:04
I bought a New Hyundai Accent.

I have liked it so far.. a decent car for cheap. Of course, it still doesn't have many miles on it. (if something major breaks down any time in the next couple of years, I will change my tune)

Jon Miller

JM^3
07-05-2006, 11:02:48
The nice thing about new cars is the warranty. That is why I got one (instead of an older car that maybe was a bit cooler).

JM

DaShi
07-05-2006, 11:25:55
Did you get the 10 year warranty?

mr_G
07-05-2006, 11:33:07
what about the color of the car?
does it match your shoes?

Lazarus and the Gimp
07-05-2006, 12:08:38
What makes are these cars? On paper, the new one is the better deal.

devilmunchkin
07-05-2006, 12:38:07
don't really care about the color. i just wanted something that ran and was good for a college student.
was looking at the Kia Rios

paiktis22
07-05-2006, 14:08:18
If you have the option to get a new one it would be better. Depends what you can afford or what your parents can. But the price difference doesn't seem to high. If the used on was at 3.000 for example I'd say look at it too. But now I'd go for the new one and not have any worries.

Lazarus and the Gimp
07-05-2006, 18:10:46
Originally posted by devilmunchkin

was looking at the Kia Rios

Kias are awful. You're better off with a used Nissan or Toyota.

JM^3
07-05-2006, 20:01:26
Originally posted by DaShi
Did you get the 10 year warranty?

yeah

JM

Darkstar
08-05-2006, 16:07:56
In theory, if there are no banks (just parents) involved, the new car is best for you. But what you can reasonably cover month to month may be reason to look at something that isn't new.

What would the upkeep and monthly payments amount to? A college student is generally better off with something very cheap and being friends with a mechanic or just have a lot of friends that know a thing or two about cars. That yields no car payments, lowest insurance, a car that can take a beating, and cheap (but often) repair bills.

Are you parents financing it entirely out of their pocket, or co-signing a loan for you? Banks always insist that new cars have the most extensive insurance, and that can really add up quickly. But versus a car just two years older? Not sure what a bank or other form of lender would insist on.

Kitsuki
08-05-2006, 16:15:44
IMO - buy a shit car.

If it is your first one, you will probs bump and bang it a lot - get a better one a little further down the line (I'm assuming by this being your first car you haven't driven all that much in the past.)

mr_G
08-05-2006, 16:16:28
cars are soooo 2005!!!!

Venom
08-05-2006, 16:41:12
41k miles on a barely 2 year old car? Yeah, don't buy that one.

BigGameHunter
08-05-2006, 16:53:44
Kias are perfect for who they are designed for: alsie and such. You really can't beat a 5 yr warranty, especially when you're going to maintain it like crap as most first buyers will.
Warranty is no big deal until your tranny falls out on the highway.
Yeah..go ahead...brown card that.

Venom
08-05-2006, 17:04:35
Tuck it better.

Mr. Bas
08-05-2006, 17:05:26
College students shouldn't be able to afford cars, damn it! :mad:

devilmunchkin
08-05-2006, 18:43:02
well, nobody has to cosign for me or finance it other than me. I can do it by myself as i have really good credit. I COULD pay upfront for the whole thing, but i was told maybe i could make a substantial down payment that creates low monthly costs and still pay it off, thus improving my credit even more.

the only role my parents would play is in driving it out to california. we would be saving 3-4k by buying in texas vs california.

Venom
08-05-2006, 18:46:47
And then instantly lowering the value of the car by driving it 1000 miles right off the bat.

Darkstar
08-05-2006, 18:51:30
The car loses value the moment it is bought. An extra 1K of travel isn't going to do any more financial damage.

Buying it in Texas for use in Cali--- Is there any extra gotchas that Cali has passed to make up for so many people going across the state border to buy a care (and avoid Cali's steep sales taxes)?

devilmunchkin
08-05-2006, 18:52:27
it's going to loose value of that nature anyway when i drive it over 500 miles upstate.

devilmunchkin
08-05-2006, 18:53:59
darkstar, actually the car dealer in texas said they regularly have out of staters buy cars in texas. kia makes all of their cars up the smog code so i won't have to worry about it not passing the CA smog test. I do not THINK there are any gotchas as far as tax.

Oerdin
08-05-2006, 20:00:42
Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
Kias are awful. You're better off with a used Nissan or Toyota.

Yeah, Kia and Hyundai are the bottom of the barrel in all of the quality ratings.

mr_G
08-05-2006, 20:08:34
alll my exes live in texas

Darkstar
08-05-2006, 20:11:07
:confused: All your executable programs are hosted in texas?

Dyl Ulenspiegel
08-05-2006, 20:20:30
especially bridge.exe

devilmunchkin
08-05-2006, 21:27:12
Originally posted by Darkstar
:confused: All your executable programs are hosted in texas?
i don't know. because i don't know what that is. (which is probably another good reason i'm relying upon my parents to sniff out bad from good. they have experience where i do not.)

Koyaanisqatsi
08-05-2006, 21:36:08
Is this where I make one of those 'if cars were made by Microsoft' jokes?

Diss
08-05-2006, 23:47:21
I just bought a new mustang. But I probably can't give advice. I wasn't looking to save money. If I was, I'd have bought a beater car or a Hyundai.

Paid almost $26,000 for it. And another $2000 in sales tax.

Oerdin
09-05-2006, 01:37:01
If all you want is a cheap but reliable car then look at a 6-10 year old Camry. They're cheap and still have most of their usable life left.

Diss
09-05-2006, 02:11:49
good choice. My next car will be a more economical car. Probably a Toyota.

devilmunchkin
09-05-2006, 05:30:19
yeah but i want the warranty....

JM^3
09-05-2006, 05:33:24
I did have a used Hyundai Accent before..

I bought it for $500 though.

Jon Miller

JM^3
09-05-2006, 05:33:48
I thought Kia's had a 10 year warranty?

JM

devilmunchkin
09-05-2006, 05:36:23
they do

JM^3
09-05-2006, 05:42:49
Why don't you get the 10 year warranty then?

JM

devilmunchkin
09-05-2006, 05:43:46
i will
they come with the 2006's

JM^3
09-05-2006, 05:49:18
Oh, that is the car I would recommend buying than...

Jon Miller

DaShi
09-05-2006, 05:59:25
Originally posted by JM^3
yeah

JM

That's probably what I'll end up doing too. No corvette. :(

Dyl Ulenspiegel
09-05-2006, 07:55:36
What's covered under the 10 year warranty?

Oerdin
09-05-2006, 08:25:31
http://www.kia.com/warranty.php

It seems only the basic power train (meaning engine & transmission) is covered for 10 years or 100,000 miles which ever comes first. The real warranty is only 5 years or 60,000 miles.

Oerdin
09-05-2006, 08:31:54
BTW if you really do want a new car instead of a used car then try looking at one of these since they're much better put together then the Kia.

http://www.toyota.com/yaris/index.html?s_van=GM_TN_YARIS_INDEX

DaShi
09-05-2006, 08:37:07
But their commercials are so gay.

Oerdin
09-05-2006, 08:38:09
I'm just trying to come up with alternatives in the same price range as the Kia.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
09-05-2006, 08:56:09
Originally posted by Oerdin
http://www.kia.com/warranty.php

It seems only the basic power train (meaning engine & transmission) is covered for 10 years or 100,000 miles which ever comes first. The real warranty is only 5 years or 60,000 miles.

Thought so, because a 10 year full warranty would be odd.

Diss
09-05-2006, 09:06:26
the engine is part of the power train right? What else do you need covered?

Dyl Ulenspiegel
09-05-2006, 09:20:12
apart from the engine? car body, electronics, brakes, steering (is that part of the "power train?")....

JM^3
09-05-2006, 09:21:59
It's the engine that is expensive...

Jon Miller
(I think)

Venom
09-05-2006, 12:17:47
And that pesky desire for profit.

Darkstar
09-05-2006, 22:40:19
Steering is not part of the power train.