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Hazelnuts
04-05-2006, 21:26:44
How many women do you think say that they are straight and mean it?

personally i reckon most of them are at Bi lol maybe thats just my wishful thinking :p

Koshko
04-05-2006, 21:29:05
Well based on the internet, approximately 80% of women are bisexual.

Hazelnuts
04-05-2006, 21:33:33
i think most women have at least thought about it

Diss
04-05-2006, 21:41:05
everybody thinks about. I think about doing it with guys all the time, but I'm straight. ;)

JM^3
04-05-2006, 22:02:44
Most women are not Bi. If they were Bi, you would see a lot more in relationships with women, and than men, and than women.

Instead, most women cave in to coercion by their boyfreinds/admirers/SOs. Which is what many guys want.

Many guys want the girl to do a threesome because it will get them (The guy) off. They don't want to lose their GF to some girl.

While I admit that bisexual girls/lesbians/threesomes turn me on, I would never try to get a girl I was dating/married to to engage in one. Now if I was just looking for a good time..

Jon Miller

Hazelnuts
04-05-2006, 22:04:49
im not saying about talking them into it i just think that a large amount of women have at least thought about it on their own accord

JM^3
04-05-2006, 22:10:06
That is because society tells them it is sexy.

Jon Miller

Hazelnuts
04-05-2006, 22:12:02
I guess your right there, good ol' society lol

Darkstar
04-05-2006, 22:15:11
Originally posted by Koshko
Well based on the internet, approximately 100% of women are actually men.

fixed.

JM^3
04-05-2006, 22:16:22
As I said, if they really were Bi they would get in relationships with women more often.

Of course, I maintain that there is no such thing as a fundamentally Bi person. Those we call Bi are either confused or hedonists.

Jon Miller
(if I was a hedonist I would definitely be Bi, a lot more fun I am thinking)

Darkstar
04-05-2006, 22:16:40
:hmm: JM, you have how much experience with women again? You going to write the JM updated version of the Karma Sutra next?

JM^3
04-05-2006, 22:18:10
I have lots of experience seeing the world.

Just because I don't have much physical experience doesn't mean that I don't have a lot of oberservational experience.

I don't stay in a shell.

Jon Miller

Darkstar
04-05-2006, 22:18:43
Women do get into relationships with women more often then with men.

Women can have serious relationships without ever having sex, Jon. Guys just don't recognize those relationships for being equally as valid to the women because there's no body fluids being swapped. Hell, Jon, you've probably been in several serious relationships with women--- they just didn't bother to tell you, and you didn't realize it because you always kept your pants on while around them.

JM^3
04-05-2006, 22:24:14
Well, I do right now.

But I generally don't.

And I know many 'Bi' women, 'curious' women, etc.

Every woman I know has been repeated asked by boyfreinds/admirers to engage in threesomes (With another woman). All over in TV bisexuality among women is shown as hot (it is catching up among guys, but we probably have to wait another decade before it reaches the level it is now among women). I know girls who have people ask them .. "But why don't you want to have sex with girls?" as if they are strange.

Outside of the very religious, societal pressure is immense. The mere fact of the (relatively) low numbers of girls who engage in repeated bisexual encounters shows their fundamental heterosexuality.

Personally I view what has been done to homosexuals as wrong (the societal coercion to be straight). I also beleive what is being done to women is wrong.

Jon Miller

JM^3
04-05-2006, 22:25:13
Originally posted by Darkstar
Women do get into relationships with women more often then with men.

Women can have serious relationships without ever having sex, Jon. Guys just don't recognize those relationships for being equally as valid to the women because there's no body fluids being swapped. Hell, Jon, you've probably been in several serious relationships with women--- they just didn't bother to tell you, and you didn't realize it because you always kept your pants on while around them.

And I have been in several serious relationships with men where I kept my pants on also.

I don't see any difference there. I also don't see how it makes women bisexual.

Jon Miller

Darkstar
04-05-2006, 22:32:32
Well, polygamy has been the standard of human mating and long term relationships, as has been same-sex relationships. Dating at least back to when the women stayed back with the kiddies and the men headed out for several weeks (and more) for hunting for big meat. The history of our species suggested we are programmed to be bi, men and women alike. It's only our local culture that has made it uncool for men to be bi while trying to glamourize women being bi.

Everyone is bi to some degree. The only question is how much. Is it just the occasional man that gives you a man-crush, or do you find yourself thinking primarily of men, and only the odd woman catches your attention? It's the same for women. It's a very rare person that isn't every attracted to someone of their own sex. The difference is merely how often people indulge in that behavior and how society encourages or punishes such behavior.

JM^3
04-05-2006, 22:37:12
I disagree with the fundamentally Bi theory (Obviously).

It isn't my area of specialisation, but I haven't seen any research invalidating my position and in favor of the fundamentally Bi position either. In fact, what research I have seen is in favor of my position.

For one thing, if people were fundamentally Bi, it would be a lot easier to 'change' homosexuals.

Jon Miller

JM^3
04-05-2006, 22:40:41
Crap, WTF am I doing arguing with Darkstar?

JM

Darkstar
04-05-2006, 22:47:47
How are you changing homosexuals? Most are bi to begin with. Otherwise, you'd have to say that anyone that has any attraction for their sex are homosexuals, Jon.

alsieboo
04-05-2006, 23:04:33
Originally posted by JM^3
Crap, WTF am I doing arguing with Darkstar?

JM

You only just realised?

Fistandantilus
04-05-2006, 23:05:58
Originally posted by JM^3
Crap, WTF am I doing arguing with Darkstar?

JM

:lol:

Hazelnuts
04-05-2006, 23:10:58
And everyones fave lady turns up yay

Koshko
05-05-2006, 04:30:30
Well it's much more acceptable for women to experiment with another woman than a man with another man. A woman can have a sexual experience with another woman and can still be largely straight. The instant a man has any sort of sex with another man, they are permanently branded gay by the male community regardless of how many women they've fucked.

Koshko
05-05-2006, 04:31:11
The exception to the above post is prison. Then they are only bitches.

King_Ghidra
05-05-2006, 08:21:42
http://www.oprah.com/tows/pastshows/200404/tows_past_20040416_c.jhtml

Nills Lagerbaak
05-05-2006, 08:32:11
Yeah, you go girl.

Jon, why don't you just put another question to the girls?

Darkstar
05-05-2006, 20:11:07
Originally posted by Koshko
Well it's much more acceptable for women to experiment with another woman than a man with another man. A woman can have a sexual experience with another woman and can still be largely straight. The instant a man has any sort of sex with another man, they are permanently branded gay by the male community regardless of how many women they've fucked.

Unless its done while in The Navy. "If the ship isn't tied up to a pier, it isn't queer."

Lazarus and the Gimp
06-05-2006, 07:14:28
Or in an expensive boarding school for posh kids.

Diss
06-05-2006, 20:49:14
Originally posted by Darkstar
Well, polygamy has been the standard of human mating and long term relationships, as has been same-sex relationships. Dating at least back to when the women stayed back with the kiddies and the men headed out for several weeks (and more) for hunting for big meat. The history of our species suggested we are programmed to be bi, men and women alike. It's only our local culture that has made it uncool for men to be bi while trying to glamourize women being bi.

Everyone is bi to some degree. The only question is how much. Is it just the occasional man that gives you a man-crush, or do you find yourself thinking primarily of men, and only the odd woman catches your attention? It's the same for women. It's a very rare person that isn't every attracted to someone of their own sex. The difference is merely how often people indulge in that behavior and how society encourages or punishes such behavior.

I've never had a man crush. Except on myself. :lol:

Diss
06-05-2006, 20:50:12
Originally posted by Darkstar
Unless its done while in The Navy. "If the ship isn't tied up to a pier, it isn't queer."

I never had gay sex while in the navy.

Lazarus and the Gimp
07-05-2006, 07:18:33
In that case, why the hell did you recruit?

Kitsuki
07-05-2006, 23:11:35
Originally posted by Hazelnuts
How many women do you think say that they are straight and mean it?

personally i reckon most of them are at Bi lol maybe thats just my wishful thinking :p

Yep, reading this post made me realise you just had to be an Alsie stalker....

Kitsuki
07-05-2006, 23:12:34
Originally posted by Diss
I never had gay sex while in the navy.

But you have at other times?

HelloKitty
07-05-2006, 23:35:29
No, because the sex was when the ship wasn't tier to the pier, so it wasn't gay.

Chris
08-05-2006, 12:48:00
How many Bi women wonm't admit to liking pirates?

Japher
08-05-2006, 12:53:02
how many times do I have to say it?

All women are bi!

mr_G
08-05-2006, 12:57:37
what?

Japher
08-05-2006, 12:58:16
All women are bi!

mr_G
08-05-2006, 13:01:38
http://www.gothtronic.com/Goth/img_/Movies1/sub/Various-Bionic%20Woman.jpg

paiktis22
08-05-2006, 13:07:54
too much orange juice

Darkstar
08-05-2006, 19:15:14
Originally posted by mr_G
http://www.gothtronic.com/Goth/img_/Movies1/sub/Various-Bionic%20Woman.jpg

:gotit: I understand now!
The "doooo di doooo" is the sound effect from the Six Million Dollar Man/Bionic Woman, when they started doing their super slow motion bionic run! Or their strong arming! Wow!

You know, the real six million dollar man died recently.

Bruce A. Peterson, 72, is reported to have passed away on Monday, May 1. A NASA pilot since 1960, Peterson was initially assigned to the Rogallo paraglider (Paraslev) that was under consideration for use on the Gemini and Apollo space capsules.

During his flying career, Peterson logged more than 6,000 hours in nearly 70 types of aircraft. He gained a small measure of fame when the story of a M2-F2 lifting body crash that he was seriously injured in, but survived, was adapted as the basis for the 1970s television series "The Six-Million Dollar Man".

(taken from space.com)

Diss
08-05-2006, 23:45:17
Originally posted by Kitsuki
But you have at other times?

what happens in my city stays in my city (okay sometimes I post pictures on the internet :))

Darkstar
09-05-2006, 22:06:07
Humm...

More brain scanning studies of straight women, lesbian women, and straight men show that straight women are actually bi-sexual. They find both male and female pheromones to be attractive; depending on their past sexual experiences determines how much their memory activates while smelling either sex's pheromones.

lesbian women find neither set of pheromones actually attractive, but they find female pheromones less repellant then male pheromones.

The heterosexual males found the female pheromones attractive, and depending on their sexual experiences, often activated their memory. The heterosexual males found the male pheromones repellant.

Who knew?

Of course, this is just a small study on all right-handed, typical healthy adults. Larger studies could easily find different results. And I'm sure there will be more studies.