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Funko
18-04-2006, 10:20:02
http://www.counterglow.com/article.php?id=LWP_9

King_Ghidra
18-04-2006, 10:37:13
Seems to be some problems with the formatting on Kitsuki's comments, his name is appearing in the entry above.

Good entertainment as always though :)

Funko
18-04-2006, 10:40:45
Sorted, thanks.

Scabrous Birdseed
18-04-2006, 10:59:22
Hey, I used to post on the same forum as Trapezoid. In fact, I still occasionally do. I think it's safe to say I was among the first thousand or so people to see his first Animutations, and understood the Dan Simon reference...

Scabrous Birdseed
18-04-2006, 12:56:25
So, why do the brits hate dance music pre-87?

Funko
18-04-2006, 13:05:12
Why did you pick such a bad example of pre '87 dance music from which to base such a generalisation?

zmama
18-04-2006, 13:06:15
Tis a great song not bad :)

Funko
18-04-2006, 13:51:09
What's great about it? I don't get it.

Immortal Wombat
18-04-2006, 13:59:21
Originally posted by Scabrous Birdseed
So, why do the brits hate dance music pre-87?
To be fair, I dislike dance music post-87 as well.

Funko
18-04-2006, 14:02:21
I like some dance music before '87 and some after.

After '87 the music was mostly still shit, the drugs were just better.

Fistandantilus
18-04-2006, 14:28:40
Originally posted by Scabrous Birdseed
So, why do the brits hate dance music pre-87?

they are too seriously sirius and, in the case of KG, old :p

Funko
18-04-2006, 14:42:16
I don't hate it, I just think it's ok. The kind of music that I only get exposed to by cheesy wedding DJs. Although I'd probably drunkenly dance to it at a wedding I'd be hoping they'd play something better.

Scabby's response said "the soul kids go insane".

I have no idea where you would find a soul kid in the UK let alone enough soul kids to necessitate an entire night.

It's very one dimensional and repetitive. Yes, it's got a beat you can dance to, but that's all it has. The lyrics are utterly inane, the vocal is borderline annoying and I've heard that bassline 1000 times.

Scabrous Birdseed
18-04-2006, 15:48:17
See, another american weighs in with a positive sentiment, thus confirming the statistical division. It's another woman as well unfortunately. :(

We used to have a soul night at a night club in York, it was fairly standard Northern Soul and Funk but attracted a fairly interesting subsection of the indie crowd, plus people like me who preffered black music. That's basically the soul crowd here too. "She's a Bad Mama Jama" gels surprisingly well with Motown, "Tainted Love", the O'Jays and the rest of the 60s and 70s stuff that seems to be considerably less divisive.

I'm not going to try to defend my track to someoen who doesn't like it. (It would be fairly pathetic.) Just remember that the value of a track changes depending on the context where it's heard... This works brilliantly in a dancefloor setting.

Funko
18-04-2006, 16:05:38
There are tracks that I'll enjoy in a dancing situation but would never listen to in a non dancing situation.

One problem I guess you will have is that I never listen to my LWP CDs in a dancefloor setting...

But in general "is it danceable" isn't something I consider in whether I like something I not.

Funko
18-04-2006, 16:23:38
I think I'm taking out my annoyance about the "Brits don't like dance music before 1987" comment out on the song, which isn't that bad.

Kitsuki
18-04-2006, 17:27:41
I just dont like dance or cheese period; I make no distinction about some 1987 watershed in quality of said excuse for music.

*End Is Forever*
18-04-2006, 17:42:15
I assume Johan is talking about Thursday nights downstairs at the Gallery. I went a couple of times, it was full of indie-poseurs that Snappy would usually be seen dead within several miles of... :p

Lazarus and the Gimp
18-04-2006, 18:37:13
Originally posted by Scabrous Birdseed
So, why do the brits hate dance music pre-87?

If you were old enough to remember what discos and nightclubs were like before 1987, you wouldn't need to ask that.

This was the mainstream that Indie was kicking against in the mid to late 80's, and it's that growing Indie scene that was the genesis of the bands that were so exciting to the British posters born between 1970 and 1980.

Lazarus and the Gimp
18-04-2006, 18:44:03
Are Mew really Denmark's biggest band? I'd have thought The Raveonettes were bigger.

Scabrous Birdseed
19-04-2006, 07:33:51
Saybia are denmark's biggest band.

Scabrous Birdseed
19-04-2006, 07:44:34
Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
If you were old enough to remember what discos and nightclubs were like before 1987, you wouldn't need to ask that.

This was the mainstream that Indie was kicking against in the mid to late 80's, and it's that growing Indie scene that was the genesis of the bands that were so exciting to the British posters born between 1970 and 1980.

Yeah, that's what I figured - in the UK 80s I guess even the more hardcore and undergroundey black music (the kind you'd hear on the average Funky Collector compilation) was the enemy for you lot.

Am I right in saying that was not the case in the US to the same extent, except in isolated pockets? I mean, you'd never get the Roxy thing going on in the UK.

Funko
19-04-2006, 07:46:05
Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
Are Mew really Denmark's biggest band? I'd have thought The Raveonettes were bigger.

I may have slightly exaggerated... but they are very big there. :)

Lazarus and the Gimp
19-04-2006, 16:28:46
Originally posted by Scabrous Birdseed
Yeah, that's what I figured - in the UK 80s I guess even the more hardcore and undergroundey black music (the kind you'd hear on the average Funky Collector compilation) was the enemy for you lot.




Not in the slightest. That was a totally different scene. The hardcore dub/reggae/hiphop scene in 80's Britain was hip but terrifying.

That track you selected was typical of the mainstream meat-rack glitzy disco "10 pints of wifebeater and a knee-trembler with a 40-year-old checkout girl" evening. The hardcore black music was fascinating, but you knew you'd get mugged in the clubs.

Lazarus and the Gimp
19-04-2006, 16:29:33
Originally posted by Scabrous Birdseed
Saybia are denmark's biggest band.

Who? They don't appear to have exported well.

Scabrous Birdseed
19-04-2006, 18:50:49
Unfortunately not. They're rather good, in a Carpenters-meets-Flaming Lips kinda way.

DaShi
27-04-2006, 08:26:34
I never heard most of the songs for these things. However, I do enjoy reading how each of you respond. Good stuff! Glad it's back.

devilmunchkin
30-04-2006, 04:58:44
laz ws wrong about the ladies saying "aww" about the crayola song. i found it disturbing, too.

devilmunchkin
02-05-2006, 03:59:11
are we still waiting on the comments for experience? seems to only be innocence.

Lazarus and the Gimp
02-05-2006, 18:01:14
Those need to go to Funko, by Monday at the latest.

Funko
03-05-2006, 07:57:00
I already have dms

BigGameHunter
07-05-2006, 06:24:30
Will perform the usual last second heroics.

Funko
08-05-2006, 09:21:07
Thanks Wombat and Scabby, I now have 5 sets of reviews.

BigGameHunter
08-05-2006, 14:25:47
PM'd to ya, mate.

Funko
08-05-2006, 14:32:04
Thanks!

Scabrous Birdseed
10-05-2006, 06:45:58
So how's this rollin?

Funko
10-05-2006, 07:50:07
I've got everything, I've just been too busy to put it together. Hope to send out comments today.

Funko
10-05-2006, 14:06:42
Comments sent out to track owners. - NOW!

Scabrous Birdseed
10-05-2006, 15:29:55
Returned

Funko
10-05-2006, 15:31:10
Yay! We're going to have an argument about that when it's published. :beer:

Kitsuki
10-05-2006, 15:56:49
When is it being published...? I blame Funko. For everything.

Funko
10-05-2006, 15:58:15
After I get everyone's comments back it'll be as soon as I get time.

Funko
12-05-2006, 11:07:57
Waiting for responses to tracks 1 and 8.

Can I have them by Monday? :beer:

Lazarus and the Gimp
12-05-2006, 16:22:50
GET THEM BACK IN, YOU 'ORRIBLE SLACKERS!

Funko
15-05-2006, 08:07:10
Still missing track 1.

Scabrous Birdseed
15-05-2006, 09:44:37
Whose is it?

Funko
15-05-2006, 09:47:50
Name and Shame.

Eklektikos.

Scabrous Birdseed
15-05-2006, 10:26:54
Boooo!

Eklektikos
15-05-2006, 11:39:59
Done, finally.

:nervous:

Funko
15-05-2006, 11:41:31
Thanks. :D

Not sure I'll have time to compile it today, but will do it asap.

Scabrous Birdseed
16-05-2006, 10:32:26
And you go picking a fantasy team instead. :rolleyes: ;)

Funko
16-05-2006, 10:34:47
You know who to blame. :D

Funko
16-05-2006, 10:38:41
I am actually quite busy with work.

Scabrous Birdseed
16-05-2006, 11:54:11
Lots of meetings?

Funko
16-05-2006, 12:59:24
stupid things not working. :(

Scabrous Birdseed
16-05-2006, 13:05:43
So your equipment isn't working, which is why yuo can't attend meetings?

Funko
16-05-2006, 13:26:35
Exactly.

Scabrous Birdseed
17-05-2006, 09:43:33
So, have you got it up yet?

Funko
17-05-2006, 10:30:41
No. I have odd 5 minute windows to post at the moment but I'm not going to have an hour or two to format it all at the moment.

If you have time I'll send you my file.

Scabrous Birdseed
17-05-2006, 10:57:13
That was actually just another cheap piece of sexual innuendo.

But yeah, go ahead and send it to me and I'll publish.

Funko
17-05-2006, 10:57:42
I know it was but thought it was a serious question as well.

I'll see if it'll PM

Scabrous Birdseed
17-05-2006, 11:15:15
Doubtful. Try "birdseeed" on Karsten's domain...

Funko
17-05-2006, 11:19:18
it worked I think

Scabrous Birdseed
17-05-2006, 11:24:22
It did, ta. Someone has been fiddling with the PM size limits...

Scabrous Birdseed
17-05-2006, 12:48:57
I really shouldn't have agreed to this, my other stuff is taking som much longer than I thought...

Funko
17-05-2006, 13:48:44
If you haven't had time by the time I have time I'll do it.

Lazarus and the Gimp
19-05-2006, 16:14:13
Ooooooh decisions, decisions. Who do I call "lame" first?

Funko
19-05-2006, 16:15:07
SCABBY!

Lazarus and the Gimp
22-05-2006, 16:35:27
Pfffft.


I don't suppose anyone's got an idiot-proof guide to doing these things? Ideally, I'd like to see the finished article before I die. It'll probably look shit, but if it's readable I'd count it as a success.

Funko
23-05-2006, 07:58:52
Since Scabby said he'd do it I haven't even thought about it, I figured he'd have done it by now.

Funko
23-05-2006, 08:03:35
I'll do it now.

Scabrous Birdseed
23-05-2006, 08:06:05
I could do it now too, in a pinch. I've been so much more busy than I thought possible this past week.

Maybe I could tag half of it and send to you?

Funko
23-05-2006, 08:14:36
It's alright, it's done.