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Scabrous Birdseed
05-03-2006, 19:38:40
Me and the GF found some dodgy tickets to Gaudiville on the interweb for next week, and we need a break so we're off on saturday to ERC country.

Any idea what to do, where to stay etc. if you've got less cash than a mugged fruitbat?

mr_G
05-03-2006, 19:39:34
jesjes wanna have a nice hotel kinda "hip" near the ramblas?

paiktis22
05-03-2006, 19:41:50
Little sceret: play it that you are catholics and ask for shelter in a monastery. Completely free, usually in an upstate part of town (church has money) and all the quiet you want.
This worked for Rome. At Venice it was the shelter for unmarried mothers (long story).
Drawbacks.
Curfew at outrageous hours. Around 9 at night. After that the doors lock.

And thinking about it, separate rooms, which will be a big disadvantage.

Second option, student motels, rented by the bed at next to zero price.

Scabrous Birdseed
05-03-2006, 19:42:08
Kinda "cheap" would be better.

Scabrous Birdseed
05-03-2006, 19:43:35
I tried posting a similar thread to this at Poly and, predictably, the first response was:

"(1) I'll bet the city of Barcelona has a website with a large portion dedicated to its tourist attactions.

(2) Visit a bookshop or library and get yourself a travel book or two on Barcelona. "

:rolleyes:

Scabrous Birdseed
05-03-2006, 19:46:23
Originally posted by paiktis22
Little sceret: play it that you are catholics and ask for shelter in a monastery. Completely free, usually in an upstate part of town (church has money) and all the quiet you want.
This worked for Rome. At Venice it was the shelter for unmarried mothers (long story).
Drawbacks.
Curfew at outrageous hours. Around 9 at night. After that the doors lock.

And thinking about it, separate rooms, which will be a big disadvantage.

Second option, student motels, rented by the bed at next to zero price.

Thanks, I'll look it up...

MOBIUS
06-03-2006, 00:06:53
Originally posted by Scabrous Birdseed
I tried posting a similar thread to this at Poly and, predictably, the first response was:

"(1) I'll bet the city of Barcelona has a website with a large portion dedicated to its tourist attactions.

(2) Visit a bookshop or library and get yourself a travel book or two on Barcelona. "

:rolleyes:

That's cos they're twats lacking in real life experiences - or at least ones in Barca...

Hmmm, it was a while since I was in Barca - Gaudi obviously! La Sagrada Familia, Park Guell and the house he built just off the Ramblas (my favourite).

You could always hire an easyrentacar Smart car and drive up to Dali's museum in Figueras (best museum EVAH!), a couple of Paradors and a trip to Andorra for cheap booze etc like what we did...;)

Truth be told, we didn't spend much time in Barca, except to see the Gaudi stuff which was awesome!

MOBIUS
06-03-2006, 00:08:51
PS Mrs MOBIUS fell in love with the double pillows - oh and expect meat for breakfast, lunch and dinner in Catalunya!

MoSe
06-03-2006, 08:27:11
Originally posted by MOBIUS
Hmmm, it was a while since I was in Barca - Gaudi obviously! La Sagrada Familia, Park Guell and the house he built just off the Ramblas (my favourite).

You could always hire an easyrentacar Smart car and drive up to Dali's museum in Figueras (best museum EVAH!), a couple of Paradors and a trip to Andorra for cheap booze etc like what we did...;)

I was there in '80 and '85.
In '80 for Xmas and it was sunny 18°C
In '85 for Easter and I chilled, barely above 0....

Have not much to add to MObius advices, also because in the meanwhile there had been the olympics and lots of cityscapes must have changed.
20 years ago we managed to find a cheap hotel thru an agency, shouldn't be that difficult now with the internet... (sorry, I didn't mean to sound polyesqe ;))
Stroll around, ramblas, waterfront, Barrio Gotico (IIRC there was a little Picasso museum in a side alley).
Absolutely Figueras!
We went there by train, reserve a whole day for the trip.
IIRC there was also a big arts museum up the Montjuich, and an amusement park called Tibidabo, up a hill, with a decent rollercoaster from which wagons you could see the whole city in front of you while you were hurtling down.

PS: alternatively you can buy a Pepe Carvalho novel by Montalbàn, and retrace the adventures of that detective thru the most unexpected patrs ot the city... ;)

mr_G
06-03-2006, 08:40:51
cassa milla, got to see casa mila.
the one mobius meant is probably casa battlo, best facade EVAH!!

every hotel motel or hostel has all the great flyers at the desk. they promoto the city very well, for staying try to get as close to the ramblas as you can afford.

Scabrous Birdseed
20-03-2006, 09:19:31
It was great!

How come mr_G failed to mention the 1929 world exhibition pavillion by Mies van der Rohe? That was brilliant!

mr_G
20-03-2006, 09:27:26
ooops i didn't???? sorry
it is one of my fav. buildings evah.

no1. Guggenheim NY
no2. Mies's paviljion
no3. Guggenheim bilbao
no4. waterpavilion Neeltje Jans (but that is because i was on the design team)

the boys can see a Mies in NY too, well if they are not tooo drunk.

great to hear you loved it Scrab

Fistandantilus
20-03-2006, 09:36:25
Originally posted by mr_G

no4. waterpavilion Neeltje Jans (but that is because i was on the design team)


This one?
http://www.oosterhuis.nl/quickstart/index.php?id=116

mr_G
20-03-2006, 09:40:03
jesjes the silver one
the silver one is (was) the fresh water pavilion
the black one the salt water pavilion.

silver one is desigded by NOX
the black one by Cas Oosterhuis.

will post some nice pics oneday

mr_G
20-03-2006, 09:44:34
linky linky (http://www.archilab.org/public/1999/artistes/noxa01en.htm)

Fistandantilus
20-03-2006, 09:58:29
'liquid architecture' nice :)

King_Ghidra
20-03-2006, 10:11:47
Nox has been working on developing the possibilities of an interactive architectural territory for a number of years. His analysis of the relational transformations provoked by the multiplication of the information media serves as the embryo to an approach which sees in the "world's extreme liquation" as a means of designing spaces where the fusion of matter and information -- and of subject and object -- is possible. Nox frees his areas of a certain architectural logic to adapt architecture to evolution in our perception modes. More than mere adaptation, however, he synthesises existing and emerging technologies. An embodiment of this research is the Fresh Water Pavilion, at FreshH2O eXPO, which becomes emblematic of a "liquid" architecture, as defined by the American Markos Novak. In a simultaneous fusion of the walls, ground, and ceiling, the "architecture-body" spreads out in a wave-like effect to absorb the territory. Non-aggressive, Nox' architecture becomes the interface for an active organisation of space where visitors act upon a reactive architecture. The most recent projects touch on the notion of a cognitive architecture achieving a reactive "expert system" which mutates according to needs and functions.

Bullshit detector just went off the scale :lol:

mr_G
20-03-2006, 10:17:04
fax you !!!
well that "bullsjit" gave us a lotta publicity, it is nice to see your name printed in fat architecture books jesjes.

King_Ghidra
20-03-2006, 10:19:42
oh sure, it is cool, but you know, it's still bullshit

see also here:

http://b2architecture.blogspot.com/2005/12/47-pseuds-corner.html

mr_G
20-03-2006, 10:31:36
Yaaay you are right in a way, the fun thing is tho that the critics come with those bs words.

like the waterpavilion, it is the first building where there is no hard difference between floor/wall/ceiling. That was a main thing in the design, critics then puke some woooheeeeh words to descripe that.

well that's their job.

mr_G
20-03-2006, 10:32:17
anf hey.....you know me wizzz words!!!!

MoSe
20-03-2006, 11:48:32
I have a mr.G animated Wizard, in Word

Drekkus
20-03-2006, 12:03:59
Does he sport a robe and wizard's hat?

mr_G
20-03-2006, 12:05:14
huh? @ MoSe
huh? @ Drekkus

Drekkus
20-03-2006, 13:09:24
Oh, you internets N00b.

http://www.ubersite.com/cgi-bin/message_get.cgi?message=1052929450341228676

Fistandantilus
20-03-2006, 13:15:05
Originally posted by MoSe
I have a mr.G animated Wizard, in Word

:lol: ubercool

mr_G
20-03-2006, 13:19:32
huh?

link pleezzzzzz

Drekkus
20-03-2006, 13:38:30
The italian version of Word has a small architect as a onboard help? Instead of Clippy?

MoSe
20-03-2006, 13:40:40
yeah, a smal Mr. Merlin G with starry robe and pointy hat

but XP discontinued it, I had to settle for a small mr.G robot with boxy head and stilty legs

King_Ghidra
20-03-2006, 13:42:17
nice article:

http://arts.guardian.co.uk/features/story/0,,1734885,00.html

Gary
20-03-2006, 14:04:14
I know nothing. I come from Barcelona.

Scabrous Birdseed
20-03-2006, 14:04:20
Brits. :rolleyes:

They never got it, did they?

MoSe
20-03-2006, 15:15:32
http://www.musicnetplanet.com/img/product/160x160/235.jpg
he got it

Oerdin
20-03-2006, 15:29:26
Do the old standby and just stay at a hotel. Short of staying with a friend for free it's the best thing going. I've heard of the staying in a church thing before but there's no way I'd be going to bed at 9pm so that's out.

Scabrous Birdseed
20-03-2006, 15:40:00
We ended up using www.couchsurfing.com, a service whereby you visit random strangers homes and live with them. It worked out brilliant, we stayed with one guy for one night and a woman for five.

MoSe
20-03-2006, 15:51:47
Originally posted by Scabrous Birdseed
one guy for one night and a woman for five.

that lends itself to so much jokes, that I can't decide! ;)

anyway, I recall they were very hospitable there.
Any further detail about the trip?
Did you visit Daĺ's museum?

MoSe
20-03-2006, 15:53:16
www.couchsurfing.com

11004 - Host not found
This error indicates that the gateway could not find the IP address of the Web site you are trying to access


?????
that's new to me

Funko
20-03-2006, 15:58:48
Works for me.

Gary
20-03-2006, 16:12:44
Italian web censorship ;)

Mr. Bas
20-03-2006, 16:46:08
OG - just remove the , at the end.

Barcelona is a nice place, I don't really have anything constructive to add except that the mentioned things like Parc Guell, Sagrada Familia and the Ramblas area are all well worth a visit.