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Funko
16-02-2006, 16:45:35
Q: Which is the only route on the Reading bus network to get its own special page on their website?

A: The 17!

http://www.reading-buses.co.uk/rdg_17.htm

Lurker the Second
16-02-2006, 16:53:27
If I click that link, will I be entertained at all?

Tizzy
16-02-2006, 16:53:59
That's one of those questions you didn't really need to ask.

Debaser
16-02-2006, 16:54:20
I love the Reading Buses website for the awfulness of that little animated bit when you hover over the word "Buses". I bet it was made by a Reading College graduate.

Scabrous Birdseed
16-02-2006, 16:56:31
Originally posted by Debaser
that little animated bit when you hover over the word "Buses"

:lol: Why???

Funko
16-02-2006, 16:57:23
I find the "This is route 17, the purple route." bit hillarious.

Kitsuki
16-02-2006, 16:59:06
Originally posted by Debaser
I love the Reading Buses website for the awfulness of that little animated bit when you hover over the word "Buses". I bet it was made by a Reading College graduate.

Its almost hypnotic...

Funko
16-02-2006, 17:05:04
I had never noticed that bit before. :lol:

Nills Lagerbaak
16-02-2006, 17:06:24
Originally posted by Funko
Q: Which is the only route on the Reading bus network to get its own special page on their website?

A: The 17!

http://www.reading-buses.co.uk/rdg_17.htm


You make it sound like it's a good thing, but the website has a sectyion clearly labled "Quality Routes" then the "Route 17" in a seperate section undeneath :(

Nills Lagerbaak
16-02-2006, 17:07:25
OMG, how good is the picture of a bus, seen through the window of a bus?! Dam weed smking acid dropping colledge kids. Debaser, I'm looking at you....

Funko
16-02-2006, 17:08:34
The 17 is one of the quality routes! The picture in the quality routes section is a 17!


Which will be the Quality Bus Corridors

* Woodley
* Lower Earley
* Tilehurst - Wokingham Road
* Caversham - Coley Park
* Southcote
* Shinfield Road
* Northumberland Avenue / Basingstoke Rd
* Kentwood, Tilehurst Road

King_Ghidra
16-02-2006, 17:09:24
17 forever baby

Funko
16-02-2006, 17:10:14
In fact:

The first Quality Bus Corridor launched was Route 17, which started running its upgraded service in October 2004.

:beer:

You've been gone too long Nills.

Nills Lagerbaak
16-02-2006, 17:11:35
It still costs WAY too much though! I mean you can get from one end of London to the other for that price...

Funko
16-02-2006, 17:13:07
You can get from one end of Reading to the other as well. So it's exactly the same value.

Most London bus journeys are shorter anyway and they cost the same no matter how far you go...

Debaser
16-02-2006, 17:14:34
I agree, maybe 1.30 acceptable from Showcase to The Bear Inn or something, but from Cemetry Junction to town??? Their flat rate thing is rubbish.

Debaser
16-02-2006, 17:15:46
Most London Bus journey's are shorter? I went from Putney to Paddington the other day, that's miles. Cost about 1.30.

Nills Lagerbaak
16-02-2006, 17:17:21
I know, what Funko just said was BS. Central London (short journeys) are only a quid anyway.

Funko
16-02-2006, 17:17:27
Yeah, but the london busses are the same flat rate thing. From Tizzy's flat into Charlton which was like a 5 minute bus ride was exactly the same price.

So the issue is the same in London as in Reading...

That's the problem with the flat fare system. Short journeys are punished and long journeys benefit greatly. If you lived out in Tilehurst or Whitley or something you'd think the new flat fare was great.

King_Ghidra
16-02-2006, 17:17:42
Originally posted by Debaser
I agree, maybe 1.30 acceptable from Showcase to The Bear Inn or something, but from Cemetry Junction to town??? Their flat rate thing is rubbish.

you should be walking that distance you lazy bastard

Funko
16-02-2006, 17:18:53
Central London isn't the only place you make short journeys. Loads of people make short journeys within their local area in london to work, to tubes etc and all their trips cost the same price. (I think it was 1.20 or 1.30)

So the London thing is exactly the same...

Funko
16-02-2006, 17:19:24
And K_G is right, if it's Cemetary Junction to town why on earth wouldn't you walk it's like 7 or 8 mins.

Debaser
16-02-2006, 17:19:27
True, but for people with kids/shopping etc it's plain unfair.

Funko
16-02-2006, 17:21:34
If you are disabled, pensioner, unemployed etc. You get cheaper fares/discounts/free bus pass anyway.

And if you are doing it regularly you get much cheaper weekly/monthly passes...

So the only people paying 1.30 for a short journey are people too lazy to walk who rarely get the bus...

King_Ghidra
16-02-2006, 17:22:41
whic is ironic if you're debaser and have regularly walked hundreds of miles from reading through to lower early

Funko
16-02-2006, 17:24:10
Originally posted by Debaser
True, but for people with kids/shopping etc it's plain unfair.

That is true. But it's exactly the same in London.

Flat fares are cheaper to administer so the overal fare burden on passengers in Reading is lower than if there were staggered fares which would be fairer (pun not intended)...

It does suck if you want to go 2 stops because it's raining. :D

Nills Lagerbaak
16-02-2006, 17:27:28
Originally posted by Funko
Yeah, but the london busses are the same flat rate thing. From Tizzy's flat into Charlton which was like a 5 minute bus ride was exactly the same price.

So the issue is the same in London as in Reading...

That's the problem with the flat fare system. Short journeys are punished and long journeys benefit greatly. If you lived out in Tilehurst or Whitley or something you'd think the new flat fare was great.

apart from the central london cheaper rate.

Flat rates suck I think, they always end up being more expesive that staged rates.

Nills Lagerbaak
16-02-2006, 17:30:01
Originally posted by Funko
Central London isn't the only place you make short journeys. Loads of people make short journeys within their local area in london to work, to tubes etc and all their trips cost the same price. (I think it was 1.20 or 1.30)

So the London thing is exactly the same...



Most people in London have travel cards so the enflated cost of taking a short journey outside centre doesn't factor into it (thos who don't just tend to jump on and off without a ticket)


I think it sucks in Reading when there isn't need for a travel card scheme. Yes, a lot of people live far out and it works for them but not for the Reading-ites. It's exactly the same in Bristol.

Funko
16-02-2006, 20:04:08
You can't jump on and off without a ticket, there are no routemasters anymore.

Tizzy
16-02-2006, 20:10:33
You can on the bendy buses, you can jump on through the middle or back doors.

mr_G
16-02-2006, 20:18:53
the only good bus is a dead bus. - FACT!!

Tizzy
16-02-2006, 20:24:56
To make a dead bus, do you head it?

MoSe
17-02-2006, 08:30:51
Originally posted by Funko
And K_G is right, if it's Cemetary Junction to town why on earth wouldn't you walk it's like 7 or 8 mins.

hmmm... that would mean either it's 7-800mt, or you ran. :D

IIRC anyway I walked once from Great Expectations to Funko's parents' which I figure is much more distant, and it didn't take me more than 20 mins...

MoSe
17-02-2006, 08:34:06
Originally posted by Tizzy
To make a dead bus, do you head it?

jesjes, it rolls over then

mr_G
17-02-2006, 08:43:29
a tram is best to be headed dead, a bus on the otherhand is best to be clubbed to death just like a baby seal.

MoSe
17-02-2006, 08:53:39
Originally posted by Nills Lagerbaak
Flat rates suck I think, they always end up being more expesive that staged rates.

that's a very bold statistical statement, don't you think? :)

more expensive FOR WHO?
Of course the companies woluld tend to set an average price favorable to them, but for some single users flat rates would be very convenient.

Anyway, in a small town like Milan (2nd in Italy, its municipality area 15~20km across) we always had flat fares. But we introduced timed fare since 20-30 years.
Currently with a 1 ticket (0.92 if you buy a 10 carnet) you can travel freely on the surface and 1 trip in the metro, within 75 minutes from validation.
Neighboring municipalities have their own networks, albeit the urban area is almost seamlessly the same, and longer lines are interurban buses with their own companies and fares.
Recently they extended the metro lines 2 or 3 stops into neighboring municipalities, and they indeed make you buy a more expensive metro ticket to go beyond town limits.

Funko
17-02-2006, 09:07:50
Originally posted by MoSe
hmmm... that would mean either it's 7-800mt, or you ran. :D

IIRC anyway I walked once from Great Expectations to Funko's parents' which I figure is much more distant, and it didn't take me more than 20 mins...

Yeah, cemetary junction is about half way...

The big crossroads with the arch (the arch leads into the cemetary).

Nills Lagerbaak
17-02-2006, 09:15:33
Originally posted by Tizzy
You can on the bendy buses, you can jump on through the middle or back doors.



Tizzy knows!

Funko
17-02-2006, 09:16:09
Good law abiding citizens like me don't know such things.

Nills Lagerbaak
17-02-2006, 09:19:36
Originally posted by MoSe
that's a very bold statistical statement, don't you think? :)

more expensive FOR WHO?
Of course the companies woluld tend to set an average price favorable to them, but for some single users flat rates would be very convenient.

Anyway, in a small town like Milan (2nd in Italy, its municipality area 15~20km across) we always had flat fares. But we introduced timed fare since 20-30 years.
Currently with a 1 ticket (0.92 if you buy a 10 carnet) you can travel freely on the surface and 1 trip in the metro, within 75 minutes from validation.
Neighboring municipalities have their own networks, albeit the urban area is almost seamlessly the same, and longer lines are interurban buses with their own companies and fares.
Recently they extended the metro lines 2 or 3 stops into neighboring municipalities, and they indeed make you buy a more expensive metro ticket to go beyond town limits.

Well, by introducing a flat rate, it is in effect a price hike, because it takes away the customers ability to optimise their route (like I was living near a boundary so I'd walk to the next stop and save 20p, I wonder how many people did that...)

I really am not that bothered about how pretty the buses are, how much electronic information there is at bus stops, or whether I can access email on the bus. They're just gimicks IMO.

Nills Lagerbaak
17-02-2006, 09:20:28
Originally posted by Funko
Good law abiding citizens like me don't know such things.


http://http://www.wall.org/~larry/onion/square.gif

Funko
17-02-2006, 09:20:57
Nice.

Nills Lagerbaak
17-02-2006, 09:22:33
Thanks. Well, it says the same thing...

Funko
17-02-2006, 09:23:48
Well first there was just some gibberish text and now I can't see the image. :D

Nills Lagerbaak
17-02-2006, 09:26:56
Well, it was a link to a square...;)

Funko
17-02-2006, 09:27:52
:lol:

Drekkus
17-02-2006, 11:22:44
My God, reading busline threads

Is a Reading bus shorter then a London bus?

Nills Lagerbaak
17-02-2006, 11:24:02
Yes, but with 2 floors.

Funko
17-02-2006, 11:24:07
This is the best thread since MrG went dating.

Nills Lagerbaak
17-02-2006, 11:24:26
But some london buses are the same as Reading buses.

Darkstar
17-02-2006, 11:27:24
:lol: