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paiktis22
02-02-2006, 19:08:25
is it true that siemens phones lack "functionability" and nokia still are the best?


is ti is it?

Japher
02-02-2006, 19:12:02
:lol:

siemens

paiktis22
02-02-2006, 19:13:26
they're pretty cheap compared with nokia.

you pay the same price and get more options with siemens but i heard they are unfunctional, ergonomically lacking in a non biblical way

paiktis22
02-02-2006, 19:15:33
motherfucker. im pretty good with words damn it even in english

Funko
03-02-2006, 10:37:28
I don't like Siemens phones for those reasons... but they are cheap.

mr_G
03-02-2006, 10:38:47
heheheh they are sheep

Tizzy
03-02-2006, 10:39:14
I'm too used to Nokias now, I really struggle with any other type.

Funko
03-02-2006, 10:40:48
And remote controls.

mr_G
03-02-2006, 10:41:27
i hear dingding dingding

Tizzy
03-02-2006, 10:46:51
Technology is so complicated these days.

Rodgers
03-02-2006, 10:47:51
Originally posted by paiktis22
motherfucker. im pretty good with words damn it even in english

:lol:

LoD
03-02-2006, 10:57:20
Siemens lacking functionality? Well, Siemens sold their mobile branch to BenQ last year, so I can't vouch for any new models, but the "real" Siemens has as much functionality as the competing Nokia phones, if not more. Also, Siemens have a really straightforward, logically structured user interface - everything is located where it should be*, especially from the point of view of someone who uses a computer regularly. I can recommend you the Siemens CX70 (or any of it's variants). It's cheap, but it has an organizer with an Outlook importation facility, IrDa, and a relatively BIG display. The one downside is that it has no MP3 playback capability and only a VGA camera. However, that camera is probably the best one with that resolution I've seen of any brand.


*unlike with Nokia, which has a decent UI too, but some options can be found in places you'd never suspect. Two examples: to switch of my father's Nokia's IrDa you basically have to turn the phone off, and my friend was searching for the + sign in his Nokia for several hours, with nary a notice in the manual found. And that second phone was advertised as "corporate"!

Funko
03-02-2006, 11:06:38
BenQ from Gitaroo man?

LoD
03-02-2006, 11:09:15
Own Goal.

Scabrous Birdseed
03-02-2006, 11:20:30
Siemens phones have different functionality but I think it's actually a good deal better than Nokias. There are lots of practical little shortcuts, smart interface ideas, etc. that you discover as you go along. It's just that if you're used to Nokia a lot of the things will be located in a different place...

Scabrous Birdseed
03-02-2006, 11:23:53
For instance: pressing and holding a button can have dramatically different effect. Press and hold the 0 button and you not only get a plus but a list of country codes as an available menu. Press and hold the star button and it goes into silent mode without any tricky menu hijinx. Press and hold a number button and you call the associated, easily changed shortcut number.

Funko
03-02-2006, 11:25:23
Nokias have speed dial too... have for ages. I thought all phones did.

Scabrous Birdseed
03-02-2006, 11:36:51
Oh they all probably do but I like the siemens "every button has several functionalities" approach better. You can still go "1, dial" if you want.

Does the dial button on a Nokia bring up a list of recently dialled numbers?

Tizzy
03-02-2006, 11:44:44
Yep. And the press and hold on the speed dial works too.

Scabrous Birdseed
03-02-2006, 11:47:13
But the silent mode is really inaccessible. And the space and full stop are in the wrong place and you have to do really compicated things to get an exclamation mark or a quiestion mark. And the lock function sucks.

mr_G
03-02-2006, 11:48:20
you are not a big nokia fan are you?
I'll bet you prefer apple over pc

Nills Lagerbaak
03-02-2006, 11:49:14
sony Ericsson phones have best functionality / ease of use. Shame you can't hear them though!

Scabrous Birdseed
03-02-2006, 11:50:57
Originally posted by mr_G
you are not a big nokia fan are you?
I'll bet you prefer apple over pc

I probably would have liked nokias and hated siemens phones if I'd gotten one of the former first. As it is I'm a largely satisfied Siemens owner.

Tizzy
03-02-2006, 11:51:54
Originally posted by Scabrous Birdseed
But the silent mode is really inaccessible. And the space and full stop are in the wrong place and you have to do really compicated things to get an exclamation mark or a quiestion mark. And the lock function sucks.

To anyone used to a Nokia the space and full stop are in the wrong place on a Siemans. *shrug*

mr_G
03-02-2006, 11:53:58
Originally posted by Nills Lagerbaak
sony Ericsson phones have best functionality / ease of use. Shame you can't hear them though! hear hear and they look cool too

mr_G
03-02-2006, 11:56:18
Originally posted by Scabrous Birdseed
I probably would have liked nokias and hated siemens phones if I'd gotten one of the former first. As it is I'm a largely satisfied Siemens owner. I'm using i think my 10th mobile phone, had them all and think Nokia has the best "tree structure"
I prefer sony ericson cause they look kewl and are very easy too use too.

Nills Lagerbaak
03-02-2006, 11:56:28
I love the way, when you're typing in a word, it gives you all the possible outcomes on the bottom of the screen and you can scroll through to get the one you want.

mr_G
03-02-2006, 11:59:28
I love the way it buzzzzzes when i wear it in my jeans pocket next to my scrotum.

uhmm did i mentioned that out loud?

Nills Lagerbaak
03-02-2006, 12:04:05
Hmm, I love that feeling. You can almost hear the testicular cancer growing!

devilmunchkin
04-02-2006, 11:43:23
always wondered about that...

LoD
04-02-2006, 12:27:28
I agree with Scabby* :eek:.

*appart from the space/full stops thingys, because those are simply brand differences.

Originally posted by Nills Lagerbaak
sony Ericsson phones have best functionality / ease of use. Shame you can't hear them though!

Yeah, Siemens and Sony Ericsson are on about the same level as far as User Interface goes.

IMHO Nokias fall short on that regard in that regard, but they're certainly not horrible. Samsung on the other hand :vom:...

Oerdin
04-02-2006, 18:48:41
Originally posted by paiktis22
is it true that siemens phones lack "functionability" and nokia still are the best?


is ti is it?

Nokia camera phones just plain suck. The "best" depends upon exactly what you're looking for.

I'm still waiting for the super dupper black berry, high resolution camera, MP3 player, and portable GPS phone. One day it will come and I will buy it.

Oerdin
04-02-2006, 18:51:57
Originally posted by Scabrous Birdseed
Semen satisfies me.

:hmm:

devilmunchkin
04-02-2006, 22:48:09
i dunno..things arn't looking too hot for Blackberry atm...

DaShi
05-02-2006, 02:14:12
Wait for Blueberry.

Funko
06-02-2006, 10:18:10
Originally posted by Oerdin
Nokia camera phones just plain suck. The "best" depends upon exactly what you're looking for.

I'm still waiting for the super dupper black berry, high resolution camera, MP3 player, and portable GPS phone. One day it will come and I will buy it.

I've got a nokia and the camera on it is great. One of the best two that was out at the time...

but that was a while ago.

King_Ghidra
06-02-2006, 10:21:46
so far in my life i've owned an eriksson, a sony, a samsung, a sharp and a motorola

i think they are all pretty much of a muchness

Gary
06-02-2006, 10:27:37
In my experience, Nokia have fewer deliberate annoyances than the others I've tried. But they all seem designed by Morons.

What one needs is a software package to create one's own preferred menu tree and stuff. Wouldn't help with bad hardware design such as rocker switches that translate your centre push into a side one, but can't have everything.

DevilsH@lo
06-02-2006, 10:31:33
I've got a nokia 7230i and the camera is good (for a phone) has an MP3 player as well and the capacity to take a gig mmc card. Although a limitation is that you can't install applications or games to this memory area.

I've had sony and samsung phones and much prefer the UI on the nokia.

paiktis22
06-02-2006, 16:48:44
i read most of the posts (YYYYYEEAAAAAH)

so,
based on your accounts I could do muuuuch worse than a siemens CX70?

funnily enough that's what i had in mind.
one thing i have to know for sure.
does it have that "mute" option? meaning when someone calls and you want to mute the rining? (so you dont close the phone in their face)

*long absinence from english screw further my englishg skilz. if you dont understand i can try and explain further.

Scabrous Birdseed
06-02-2006, 17:01:08
Why donšt you just answer?

paiktis22
06-02-2006, 17:01:49
sometimes im in a meeting

paiktis22
06-02-2006, 17:12:30
also if you see here

http://www.e-germanos.gr/e-germanos/open/browse?action=compare&category=93&manufacturer=SIEMENS&page=2&productIds=6891&firstCategory=91&secondCategory=92&thirdCategory=93&productIds=6971


it would seem that the c70 has more options than the advanced model!

but it has a CIF camera (instead of a vga i presume).
what does that mean?
is it bad?

Scabrous Birdseed
06-02-2006, 17:15:23
Just put the phone in silent mode then.

paiktis22
06-02-2006, 17:21:40
i dont want to put the phone in silent mode. some calls i might want to asnwer even inside a meeting. others i dont. but i dont want to close the phone in their faces.

Scabrous Birdseed
06-02-2006, 18:00:36
You think it's better to lie and claim you aren't there rather than make them realise you're too busy to take your call? You're strange.

Well, I just tried it out and apparently if you press and hold the star key it turns into "instant silent mode".

Japher
06-02-2006, 18:12:00
my "silent mode" vibrates... you'd know if it's ringing if you keep it in your pocket

mr_G
06-02-2006, 18:14:08
jesjes next to your scrotum
buzzerrrrrrrrrr buzzerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Japher
06-02-2006, 18:20:23
you never forget
the first time you get off during a meeting

mr_G
06-02-2006, 18:23:50
hahaha I was at an opening for an exibition at the N.A.I. (kinda architecture museum) drinking a beer with some collegues so i was holding a full glass of beer, well not at the time my phone rang, it was hilarious, only one person thought it was not that great due to the fact that he headed my beer.

Japher
06-02-2006, 18:25:11
do you ever get that feeling that the phone is going to ring
right before it rings?

maybe paiktis can harness that esp like sense

paiktis22
07-02-2006, 15:54:49
Originally posted by Scabrous Birdseed
You think it's better to lie and claim you aren't there rather than make them realise you're too busy to take your call? You're strange.

Well, I just tried it out and apparently if you press and hold the star key it turns into "instant silent mode".


and which siemens model do you have exactly, oh not strange one?

LoD
07-02-2006, 16:29:45
Originally posted by paiktis22
i read most of the posts (YYYYYEEAAAAAH)

so,
based on your accounts I could do muuuuch worse than a siemens CX70?


I'd say you couldn't do much better, if on a budget. I'm quite satisfied with that phone.


funnily enough that's what i had in mind.
one thing i have to know for sure.
does it have that "mute" option? meaning when someone calls and you want to mute the rining? (so you dont close the phone in their face)


I think (BUT I'M NOT CERTAIN) that it does. Like Scabby said, Siemens phones also have a quick silent mode.

Originally posted by paiktis22
it would seem that the c70 has more options than the advanced model!


I don't think so - from what I see the option list is incorrect in several places (CX70 does have a "speakerphone" option, for example).
Also, keep in mind that CX70 has a nice, large display, which the C70 doesn't have (don't confuse the display size with the display resolution).



but it has a CIF camera (instead of a vga i presume).
what does that mean?
is it bad?

Wikipedia is your friend!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Intermediate_Format
So it's basically twice (or four times, depends on how you count) time worse than VGA in terms of resolution (CX70 has a VGa camera).

paiktis22
07-02-2006, 16:49:07
ok. let us check the manual to be sure

paiktis22
07-02-2006, 16:49:44
and thanks for the help!

paiktis22
07-02-2006, 16:55:26
gdamit doesnt have that option, according to the manual.
whereas in other siemens models their manual specifically mentions this funtion to mute the ringing bell, this osne doesnt mention it.


:(

LoD
07-02-2006, 19:25:08
No problem.

And actually, I've just checked, and it does have that feature.

Scabrous Birdseed
08-02-2006, 08:20:24
A52

Most features are not mentioned in the manual...

Debaser
08-02-2006, 08:58:48
Nice, a little bit of mystery to add longevity.

I agree with KG.