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Debaser
24-01-2006, 11:04:19
Do these look like good specs for a £799 laptop?

Operating system
Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition

Processor
AMD® Turion® processor MT-37

Memory
1GB DDR RAM PC2700

Hard disk
80GB 5400rpm hard drive

Graphics
128MB ATI Mobility Radeon X700 Graphics

Screen
15.4" WXGA X-Bright Widescreen display (1200x800)

Audio
Built-in audio & speakers

CD/DVD Rewriter
DVD/CD-RW/Dual Layer DVD-RW Drive

Modem
v90 56k modem

Wireless
802.11bg Wireless LAN

I/O ports
4 x USB2.0, Firewire, VGA, PCMCIA Type II x 1
Built in 3 in 1 Card reader - Supports MMS, MS, SD

Battery
8 cell Li-Ion battery (life up to 3hrs approx)

Standard software
CD/DVD creation software, video editing and DVD playback software.

Dimensions
355mm x 255mm x 30mm

Weight
2.8kg

Thanks in advance...

MattHiggs
24-01-2006, 11:14:45
That seems like a good deal. Not really much you can fault.

Debaser
24-01-2006, 11:39:53
Thanks Matt.

Is the battery fairly normal? 3hrs doesn't seem like very long...

MattHiggs
24-01-2006, 11:56:09
Yeah, 3 hours is about standard. You will have power options though.

With my laptop I can set the CPU to 20% and turn the brightness down when I am using office applications and get a good 6 hours out of my battery.

Debaser
24-01-2006, 12:18:16
Ah ok, I think I might get it then.

Thanks.

Sir Penguin
25-01-2006, 02:26:18
It's OK. I get well over 3 hours of low-intensity work out of my 6-cell battery, so the battery life is pretty crummy (assuming they're advertising the best case battery life). I'd go Centrino over AMD for laptops, and the RAM and hard drive are slow. The graphics card and DVD burner are nice, and so is the screen size if you aren't expecting to be especially mobile with it.

It's probably a fair price for what you're getting though. Also consider that the case is quite important for laptops. This one's pretty light, so the case is probably not too solid. You'll have to treat it gently (which is harder with a 15.4" screen than with, say, a 14" screen).

SP

MattHiggs
25-01-2006, 07:59:49
I'm selling my laptop on ebay... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8756413650&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT

*End Is Forever*
28-01-2006, 00:12:08
Alas my £49.99 was outbid... :lol:

JM^3
31-01-2006, 16:09:14
I want a laptop, to play games on...

(I use to want oen to do work on)

so it should be kickass, and cheap..


any advice

JM

MattHiggs
31-01-2006, 16:13:26
It depends what you want really. Wanting to play games and wanting to do work on is too vague.

There are lots of things to consider: size/weight, battery life, graphics capibilities, linux compatible etc...

JM^3
31-01-2006, 16:16:20
well, when I wanted something to work on I wanted:

linux compatibility, battery life, and small size (And durable)

to play games on, I want:

fast, a real graphics capable card (And durable)

Jon Mille

JM^3
02-02-2006, 01:50:27
I think this one is cool, but it probably can't handle the games:

http://www-131.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10000001&langId=-1&dualCurrId=73&catalogId=-840&partNumber=170524U

This one is bigger, and not as good (overall), but could probably play Civ4 (on small maps):

http://www-131.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10000001&langId=-1&dualCurrId=73&catalogId=-840&partNumber=18496VU

This is a bit nicer:

http://www-131.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10000001&langId=-1&dualCurrId=73&catalogId=-840&partNumber=252901U

JM

JM^3
02-02-2006, 02:19:51
cheapest Sony one (has a real Video card.. I think):

http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start?ProductSKU=VGNFS745P/H

I have had a hard time finding real graphics cards on Toshiba's (which are under 1.5k). There are a few that have x200 Mobility, not sure if that is a real graphics card.

JM

Sir Penguin
03-02-2006, 05:14:48
The Sony has a Geforce Go 6400. It's a crummier computer though. I'm very happy with my new Thinkpad T43, and I highly recommend their line. Mine has the X300, and it played Civ 4 just fine.

SP

JM^3
03-02-2006, 18:21:26
These ones by toshiba

http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/cmod.to?seg=PSE&coid=-29487

http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/cmod.to?seg=PSE&coid=-28907

http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/cmod.to?seg=PSE&coid=-29325

http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/cmod.to?seg=PSE&coid=-30275

Dell:

http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/gaming_xpsnb?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs

http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/entnb_6000?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&oc=i6000D2&s=dhs

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&oc=i6000D2&s=dhs

JM

JM^3
08-02-2006, 15:42:43
One of the post docs has a tablet

I want one of those for work..


argh

JM

JM^3
08-02-2006, 18:50:09
a couple of the Toshiba laptops are Tablet and still appear to have a real Video Card...

are Toshiba still good? Does anyone know anything about them? (Like the Tecra M4..?)

JM

Venom
08-02-2006, 18:55:34
This is a completely uninformed opinion, but I'm going to say that they suck.

JM^3
09-02-2006, 00:09:46
well, right now, despite liking IBM

I am leaning towards a Tecra M4

Jon Miller

JM^3
09-02-2006, 04:13:56
http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/cdetupdate.to?seg=PSE&ccid=1291022&rcid=-26367&poid=295672&famoid=-26374&coid=-29325&adoid=1023670&fgpn=PTM40U-0NL00D&selcmpcodpipcrt=&qtycrt=0&lincrt=0&selcmpcodpip=APP-0006%7CAPP-0011%7CAPP-0016%7CBASE-0094%7CBAT-0001%7CCOM1-0013%7CCOM2-0005%7CCPU-0147%7CEXP-0032%7CFDD-0001%7CGFX-0008%7CHDD-0018%7CIDENT-0002%7CLCD-0008%7CMEM-0008%7COS-0038%7CSBAY-0021%7CWARR-0001%7C&selxslpoidtab1pip=&selxslpoidtab2pip=&COMP_CPU=CPU-0150&COMP_Operating+System=OS-0038&COMP_Office+Software=APP-0011&COMP_Memory=MEM-0014&COMP_LCD=LCD-0008&COMP_Graphics+Controller=GFX-0007&COMP_HDD=HDD-0018&COMP_Optical+Media=SBAY-0021&COMP_WinDVD+Creator=APP-0014&COMP_Mini-PCI%2FWiFi=COM1-0018&COMP_Bluetooth=COM2-0013&COMP_Expansion+Bay=IDENT-0005&COMP_Battery=BAT-0001&COMP_Standard+Warranty=WARR-0002&updateButton.x=23&updateButton.y=15

ouch, that is a lot more than I wanted to pay...

JM

Sir Penguin
09-02-2006, 08:09:02
A lot of people at school have Toshiba laptops, so they're pretty popular among computer scientists. I don't know how well that translates into quality. The screens definitely look nice.

SP

JM^3
10-02-2006, 15:01:28
http://netscape.com.com/Toshiba_Tecra_M4/4505-3121_7-31473536-2.html?tag=sub

Some feel that the M4 is not specialised enough.

Jon Miller

JM^3
10-02-2006, 19:42:27
I have been reading some reviews and apparently quality/service has gone down since the IBM/Lenova switch

JM

JM^3
13-02-2006, 02:25:46
This was useful

http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2757

apparently if I want to run games on it, I should get x300 or better (better would be better)

they say a 6600 or better for decent gaming

Jon Miller

JM^3
17-02-2006, 08:47:33
this seems like a really good deal

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?CS=19&kc=6W300&oc=D80210F

JM

Darkstar
17-02-2006, 09:13:18
You are going to pay a lot to have a decent gaming laptop. Would probably be cheaper to get a full sized or a mini-tower, if you really want to use it for gaming. Also, laptops are easily upgradable.

Now, that said, I've got Toshiba Qosmio that was their top specs when I bought it back in Nov. There were better gaming rigs out there, but I wanted a local store I could walk in and yell at whenever I hose it up. My Toshiba has been doing very well. I could hunt up the specs.

Just depends on what you want. A big box gaming rig, or something you'll have to completely replace in 18 months to 2 years (rather then upgrade in pieces like the full size or mini-tower).

Funko
17-02-2006, 09:24:10
Hey Darkstar! :beer:

chagarra
17-02-2006, 11:41:53
Thought rocket city was closed by now...

:D

:beer:

Spartak@CPH
17-02-2006, 12:33:35
Bloddy hell; DS and Chagarra in the same thread. Run for your lives

Darkstar
17-02-2006, 13:31:29
Rocket City is doing fine. We'll be around until NASA can just buy orbital, Mars, and Lunar services. All that new CEV (and the other bits of the "Moon and Beyond" vision) are going to be designed/managed through Rocket City. At least, that's the politics so far. *knock on wood*

JM^3
17-02-2006, 16:23:40
Originally posted by Darkstar
You are going to pay a lot to have a decent gaming laptop. Would probably be cheaper to get a full sized or a mini-tower, if you really want to use it for gaming. Also, laptops are easily upgradable.

Now, that said, I've got Toshiba Qosmio that was their top specs when I bought it back in Nov. There were better gaming rigs out there, but I wanted a local store I could walk in and yell at whenever I hose it up. My Toshiba has been doing very well. I could hunt up the specs.

Just depends on what you want. A big box gaming rig, or something you'll have to completely replace in 18 months to 2 years (rather then upgrade in pieces like the full size or mini-tower).

I have gaming desktops, the problem is that I have no inernet at home.

JM

Darkstar
18-02-2006, 10:34:08
Poor JM! And you haven't committed suicide, being cut off from the interbutt when at home? Amazing!

Guess you should be doing a lot of SP play games then. Want some recommendations? This board should know lots of games worth taking a look at it.

chagarra
18-02-2006, 11:01:16
DS....
Didn't the japs get the CEV, aka X38, to play with.....

chagarra
18-02-2006, 11:02:23
Time this thread got hijacked... :D:

Darkstar
18-02-2006, 11:11:05
You mean this?

from Space.com @ URL:
http://www.space.com/astronotes/astronotes.html
January 25, 2006

Private Spaceflight Group Nabs NASA Rocket Engine

The commercial spaceflight firm Rocketplane Limited, Inc. will receive a NASA rocket engine as part of a technology sharing program, space agency officials said Tuesday.

NASA’s Johnson Space Center is loaning an RS-88 rocket engine to the Oklahoma-based firm for three-years to be used in development tests for the company’s Rocketplane XP vehicle, a modified Lear jet slated initially for passenger-carrying suborbital spaceflights.

"We are always looking for ways to partner with the private sector to foster new commercial opportunities, such as this chance to work with Rocketplane on a commercial reusable launch vehicle," said Helen Lane, acting director of Johnson's Office of Technology Transfer, in a written statement.

NASA originally planned to use RS-88 engines to power crew escape vehicles for the Orbital Space Plane, a planned successor to the space shuttle that has now been replaced with Project Constellation and its capsule-based Crew Exploration Vehicle. Built by The Boeing Company's former Rocketdyne Propulsion & Power unit for Lockheed Martin's Pad Abort Demonstration vehicle, the engine was fired a total of 14 times in hot-fire tests for a total duration of 55 seconds, NASA officials said.

-- Tariq Malik


That's the last mention of technology transfer I can recall. CEV is staying domestic.

Hmm. Do you mean how JAXA is considering going in on the Russian's Cliper (their new shuttle program)?

chagarra
18-02-2006, 23:23:48
No I'm going back to the funding cuts when the X38 got slashed from the budget.. I was under the impression that it was given to JAXA rather than fold all the lifting body research...
Since then there have been at least three lifting body trial flights in australia by JAXA.

Ginfizwithatwist
19-02-2006, 12:21:03
I have a Toshiba quosmio f20 laptop - which has Ge Go nVidea 6600, 1.73 ghz processor,1.0 gb ram, XP media centre, large screen (high def) and haman/kardon speakers - its pricey but wellworth it .I can game on it with ease- handles nearly any thing EVE can chuck at it

JM^3
19-02-2006, 16:26:26
I think that is too heavy for what I am looking for.

I want something light enough to move arround at work, but that also can play a few games (most importantly EVE).

For playing SP games I have some decent desktops.

Jon Miller

JM^3
19-02-2006, 17:14:03
currently considering

http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2569

http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/pdet.to?poid=322341&seg=HHO&src=ABEM&cm_mmc=CNET_Feed-_-Notebook_PCs-_-_-_-Toshiba_Portege_M400_S933_Tablet_PC

http://www.tabletpcreviewspot.com/default.asp?newsID=275

http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2532

JM^3
20-02-2006, 02:36:30
http://tabletauthority.bnetsoftware.com/bNetStore/Templates/Site/Template1_CAB/TplDefault.aspx?&FCode=15&Param1=3&Param2=3&Param3=Custom%20Configure%20LE%201600%20Series&Param9=1&Param10=238&Param5=0

JM^3
20-02-2006, 02:41:38
Motion Computing LE1600

SPECIFICATIONS:
1.5GHz Intel Pentium M 758; 512MB PC3200 SDRAM;
30GB Toshiba MK3006GAL hard disk;
128MB Intel 915GMS graphics;
12.1in 1,024 x 768 TFT with View Anywhere;
Gigabit Ethernet; Bluetooth; 802.11b/g WLAN;
integrated stereo speakers;
Windows XP Tablet PC Edition 2005;
1yr RTB waranty.
Dimensions: 296 x 247 x 20mm (WDH).
Weight: 1.5kg. (~3.1 lbs)

Pro:
Tablet
Light

Con:
No Dedicated Graphics
Expensive

Questionable:
Slate?
Graphics Card

Jon Miller

JM^3
20-02-2006, 02:42:54
Fujitsu Lifebook S2110

* AMD Turion 64 MT-28 1.60 GHz
* ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M
* 13.3" Crystal View XGA display
* 60 GB 7200 RPM Hard Drive
* 1 GB DDR333 SDRAM
* Atheros Super AG Wireless LAN 802.11 a/b/g
* Modular DVD/CD-RW combo drive
* 10/100 Base-Tx Ethernet and modem
* Microsoft Windows XP Home
* One-year International Limited Warranty
# light weight (4lbs)
# extremely thin (11.54" x 9.31" x 1.29")

Pro:
relatively fast
price

Con:

Questionable:
not a tablet
graphics card

Jon Miller

JM^3
20-02-2006, 03:06:47
Toshiba Portege M400-S933 Tablet PC

# Intel® Core™ Solo Processor T1300 (1.66GHz, 2MB L2, 667MHz FSB)
# Microsoft® Windows® XP Tablet PC 2005
# 512MB PC5300 DDR2 667MHz SDRAM (512MBx1)
# 12.1" Diagonal Wide View Angle XGA Display (1024x768)
# Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 950 with 8MB-128MB dynamically allocated shared graphics memory
# 80GB HDD (5400rpm, Serial-ATA)
# CD-RW/DVD-ROM Multifunction drive
# Intel® PRO/Wireless 3945ABG (802.11a/b/g)
# 4.5 lbs

Pro
Fast
Tablet

Con

Questionable
Graphics Card
Weight

Jon Miller

JM^3
20-02-2006, 03:08:58
IBM ThinkPad X41 Tablet PC Basic Specs:

Processor-- Intel Pentium M (1.5 GHz) LV 758
(1.50GHz, 90nm technology, 2MB L2 Cache, 400MHz FSB)
RAM installed-- 512 MB DDR SDRAM
Hard drive-- 40 GB @ 4200RPM
Weight-- 3.5 lbs
Dimensions (W x D x H)-- 10.5 in x 8.3 in x 0.8 in
Display-- 12.1 in TFT active matrix
Max resolution-- 1024 x 768
OS provided-- Microsoft Windows XP Tablet PC Edition 2005
Service & support type-- 3 years warranty

Pro:
Light
Tablet

Con:

Questionable:
Graphics Card

Jon Miller

JM^3
20-02-2006, 03:10:08
Fujitsu LifeBook T4010 Notebook

* Processor: Pentium M 745 (Dothan, 1,8 GHz) (Celeron M 360 and Pentium M 725 or 755 are also available)
* Memory: 512 MB PC2700 (DDR333) (Upgradeable to 2048 MB)
* Hard drive: 2.5" 80 GB 5400 RPM (40/60 GB 4200 rpm also available)
* Optical drive: DVD-read/CD-RW Combo or DVD DL+/- RW
* Graphics: Intel 855 GME (up to 64 MB shared system memory)
* Audio: SigmaTel AC`97
* Connectivity: Intel PRO Wireless 2200 BG or 2915 ABG (optional), Alps Bluetooth 1.2 (optional), Broadcom BCM 10/100/1000
* Screen: 12,1" optional non-reflective coating TFT XGA
* Weight and dimensions: Less than 2 kg with weight saver, 293x244x(up to)37,5 mm
* Warranty: 3 years
* OS and software included: Microsoft Windows TabletPC Edition

JM^3
20-02-2006, 03:17:04
Description ThinkPad X60s (Think Express Program)
Viewable image size (diagonal) inches 12.1
Maximum Resolution 1024x768
Graphics Description Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950
Processor (CPU) Intel Core Duo processor L2300
Processor speed[1] 1.50 GHz
Front side bus (FSB) 667 MHz
Internal L2 cache memory size 2 MB
Memory (RAM) std/max[8] 512MB / 2GB 667 MHz PC2-5300DR2 SDRAM
Hard disk size (GB)[4] 40 GB Serial ATA 5400
Wireless Standard[10] Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
Antenna Ultra Connect
Description Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
Weight[2] 3.04 lbs
Height 0.80 in
Depth 8.3 in
Width 10.5 in
Travel weight 3.00 lbs

JM^3
20-02-2006, 04:44:49
Toshiba Tecra S2
* CPU - Pentium M 760 2.0 GHz (Intel PRO/Wireless 2200bg and Chipset Intel 915PM Express)
* Data Bus Speed -- FSB 533 MHz
* Memory -- 1 GB (2 x 512) DDR RAM (PC2700, 333 MHz)
* Hard Disk -- 100 GB 5400 RPM (Enhanced IDE ATA-6)
* Display -- 15" TFT SXGA+ (max res 1400 x 1050 / 24-bit / 16.7 million colours)
* Video card -- NVIDIA GeForce Go 6600 -- PCI Express x16 (max res 1920 x 1440 / 24-bit / 16.7 million colours) 64 MB dedicated DDR RAM
* Optical Drive -- DVD Super Multi single layer (DVD RW / DVD-RAM)
* Input -- Keyboard, Dual pointing device (AccuPoint II and TouchPad)
* Size -- 338 x 279,7 x 29,7 -- 37,2 mm (W x D x H front -- rear)
* Weight -- 2,8 kg
* Wireless -- Wireless LAN (802.11 b/g), Intel Wi-Fi international 802.11b/g,, Bluetooth, Infrared port (FIR)
* OS -- Windows XP Pro SP2

JM^3
20-02-2006, 05:41:22
Argh, it is so hard to decide...

(in case you haven't figured out, I am not looking for a gaming laptop, I just want to be able to play eve, otherwise I want it for work)

JM

JM^3
20-02-2006, 16:03:50
If I don't do a Tablet I think I will go with the S2110

Jon Miller

MattHiggs
20-02-2006, 16:26:39
Eve will play on an Intel 910 integrated chipset. I play Eve at 1024 X 768 with default settings and there was no slowdown.