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King_Ghidra
13-01-2006, 09:00:41
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/oxfordshire/4606022.stm

A student who called a mounted policeman's horse "gay" will not be prosecuted, it has been revealed.
But police have stood by their decision to take Sam Brown to court for making "homophobic comments" despite the Crown Prosecution Service dropping the case.

Mr Brown, 21, a student at Oxford University, had said to an officer: "Excuse me, do you realise your horse is gay?"

Police took the case to court after Mr Brown refused to pay a £80 fine.

Mr Brown, who made the comment during a night out with friends in Oxford after his final exams, was arrested under section 5 of the Public Order Act for making homophobic remarks.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/oxfordshire/4606022.stm

mr_G
13-01-2006, 09:03:47
why is the horse gay?

Funko
13-01-2006, 09:04:03
:lol:

Mr. Bas
13-01-2006, 09:04:25
:lol:

Rodgers
13-01-2006, 09:15:44
Cant he be fined for being a twat? I can imagine the stupid way in which he probably said that comment.

Funko
13-01-2006, 09:26:42
I can imagine the whole thing. Cheeky student gets taught lesson.

Got to have balls to fuck with the mounted police though. Scary fuckers on their giant horses.

mr_G
13-01-2006, 09:32:29
giant gay horses.

KrazyHorse@home
13-01-2006, 09:32:35
Sounds like he was drunk.

mr_G
13-01-2006, 09:33:01
giant gay drunk horse.

mr_G
13-01-2006, 09:37:58
A student at Balliol College was arrested and detained in custody for a night after he verbally abused a police horse early on Monday morning. Sam Brown, a third year English student, had his fingerprints taken and was released with a fine of £80 following the incident which took place on Cornmarket Street.

Brown was fined for “causing harassment, harm or distress”, after he repeatedly called the officer’s horse “gay”.

Brown and his friends, including former Balliol JCR President Daniel Konrad-Cooper had emerged from the Cellar Bar and were surprised to encounter two mounted policemen.

Brown inquired, “How do you feel about your horse being gay?” of one of the policemen, stating that his colleague’s was clearly not gay. After repeated comments on the sexuality of his horse, and despite warnings from the policeman about his behaviour, Brown’s offer of an apology to the horse was rejected and he was handcuffed and taken by the officers to the police station.

The arrest was made at 2.20am on Monday morning, and Brown was in a state which he described as “pissed out of my head”.

He had tried to escape the police by hiding in a doorway in Ship Street, but was found after back up had been called for. A total of six policemen were involved in making the arrest.

One member of the party, Matthew Williams, a former LGB rep of his college, told the policeman that he found it offensive that the term “gay” was being interpreted as a derogatory insult.

Brown said that the police officers had been “very nice about it”, adding, “I think they realised how absurd the charge was.” He was accompanied to the station by one of his friends, who kept a “vigil” outside his cell. Brown reported his cell to be “comfortable”, but admitted that his state of drunkenness was such that he was not particularly aware of his surroundings. “I felt more sorry for my friend who was stuck in the freezing corridor”, he said.

Brown is contesting his fine, as he has just completed finals, “I have nothing to do for a month so I may as well.” He remains adamant that the use of “gay” does not cause “harassment, harm or distress”, that he had not been swearing or shouting at the officer and that “as far as I am aware, horses are not that sensitive. I thought they would slap me with ‘Drunk and Disorderly’, it would have been much easier.”

A spokesman for Thames Valley Police confirmed Brown’s arrest and detention, and stated that the point of the action taken by police “shows that we will not tolerate drunken behaviour which causes alarm or distress”. He stated that Brown received five verbal warnings about his behaviour and the potential consequences, and that police asked his friends to take him away and calm him down.

The spokesman also said that the “homophobic comments” were not only offensive to the policeman and his horse, but any members of the general public in the area.

Nicky Ellis, the VP (Welfare and Equal Opportunities) said “Obviously it’s very hard to judge without having been there, but if the comments were made in a certain way, they may well have come across as homophobic, and if so, it is important that the police take this seriously”.

The Dean of Balliol was unavailable to comment as to whether the College would be seeking to take further disciplinary action against Brown.

Cooper said, “Sam’s not sure where he picked this skill of identifying horses’ sexuality up – we’re very impressed with it. It’s a pity it didn’t come up in his Finals.

:lol: yup just a drunk student

Funko
13-01-2006, 09:41:31
Brown’s offer of an apology to the horse was rejected and he was handcuffed and taken by the officers to the police station.

:lol:

mr_G
13-01-2006, 09:52:51
as far as I am aware, horses are not that sensitive :lol:

Rodgers
13-01-2006, 10:20:27
Originally posted by mr_G A student at Balliol College



Yeah, he's a twat alright! :D

notyoueither
13-01-2006, 10:20:59
:lol:

Gary
13-01-2006, 11:35:07
Not half as gay twatish as the police authorities it seems !

And I pay for these idiots ?! No wonder I've heard no more about the case against the thief that did me out of £200 on eBay. They're far too busy getting all offended by the word 'gay'.

MattHiggs
13-01-2006, 12:16:52
What are the circumstances of losing the £200?

Gary
13-01-2006, 12:28:43
It has been posted here before, but I paid a seller, who had a long 100% eBay record, that (or thereabouts) for a mobile. None was ever received.

At the time I was having problems with Paypal (unverified account - they started refusing to offer the service) so I'd sent a cheque.

Lots of crap about having posted the phone. Offered no evidence of having done so.

Suddenly other folk were complaining of having not received mobile phones from him, and his rating dropped like a stone.

Reported it at the local cop shop. Police know his address, that he lives there with his girlfriend. He's changed his mobile number, and IIRC his fixed line too.

All went quiet after the case was transferred to Durham. Given up on getting owt back, but it still niggles if I think of it.

Funko
13-01-2006, 12:33:45
That is rubbish that they don't arrest him.

The thing about ratings -

You need to check when their feedback was given ie. is it all in the last couple of days?

Also, whether it's feedback for buying or selling. Often they'll buy lots of cheap things, get good feedback as a buyer then sell expensive things and not send goods.

But I've never used e-bay.

Rodgers
13-01-2006, 12:47:33
I thought I'd been ripped off recently when some stuff hadnt come through after a month. Turned out the guys paypal account was all fucked up and he sent the stuff afterall.

The sellers who badger you for feedback and for updates on whether the stuff has arrived or not are a pain though. Not as bad as the criminals I suppose.

Drekkus
13-01-2006, 12:57:42
"Brown’s offer of an apology to the horse was rejected and he was handcuffed and taken by the officers to the police station."

:lol:

Venom
13-01-2006, 13:06:53
What kind of a world do we live in where you can't call a horse gay?

Lurker the Second
13-01-2006, 14:37:17
That story is hilarious. I'll bet in Dutchland you could get arrested for verbally abusing a bridge.

Drekkus
13-01-2006, 14:40:21
I Dutchland you can get away with calling anyone anything. And the other way around.

Funko
13-01-2006, 14:40:40
Except saying Het Klopt at a train station

mr_G
13-01-2006, 14:41:46
and Bas op!!!!!

Tizzy
13-01-2006, 15:10:30
I overheard someone saying "Bas op" on the tube the other day and it made me giggle.
Then I tried to explain to my friend why it was funny and she didn't understand :(

mr_G
13-01-2006, 15:11:24
schjtoepit friend

MattHiggs
13-01-2006, 15:12:29
Originally posted by Gary
It has been posted here before, but I paid a seller, who had a long 100% eBay record, that (or thereabouts) for a mobile. None was ever received.

At the time I was having problems with Paypal (unverified account - they started refusing to offer the service) so I'd sent a cheque.

Lots of crap about having posted the phone. Offered no evidence of having done so.

Suddenly other folk were complaining of having not received mobile phones from him, and his rating dropped like a stone.

Reported it at the local cop shop. Police know his address, that he lives there with his girlfriend. He's changed his mobile number, and IIRC his fixed line too.

All went quiet after the case was transferred to Durham. Given up on getting owt back, but it still niggles if I think of it.

Can't you get your bank to do a chargeback with some kind of reference from the police?

Gary
13-01-2006, 15:53:15
No idea. Never heard of it. Once a cheque's been transferred it not under the payee's control is it ?

Thing is that after some time of beating one's head against various walls, one weighs up the cost of the excess stress and high blood pressure, and decides life's better if it's written off. Less chance of a stroke too :). Which is what I'm trying to do. But it would help if Durham police wrote to say they'd hauled his sorry ass into gaol.

zmama
13-01-2006, 16:06:25
My pony loved to drink beer

FACT

mr_G
13-01-2006, 16:09:26
I'm not going to say anything about the MoSe incident anymore

Venom
13-01-2006, 16:48:43
What about the horse incident?

Funko
13-01-2006, 16:49:58
What should we do with the drunken pony,
What should we do with the drunken pony,
What should we do with the drunken pony,
Earl-eye in the morning.

Rodgers
13-01-2006, 16:57:13
Originally posted by zmama
My pony loved to drink beer

FACT

Did it go on to call an Oxford student "gay"?

Tizzy
13-01-2006, 17:00:47
And if not, why not?

Funko
13-01-2006, 17:02:02
Originally posted by Rodgers
Did it go on to call an Oxford student "gay"?

:lol:

Chris
13-01-2006, 22:48:20
Did they ever ask the horse if he was indeed gay?

After all, the police seem to think the horse understands human language.

TV4Fun
14-01-2006, 01:33:10
Did the horse really enjoy taking a shit?

The Mad Monk
15-01-2006, 16:37:32
A photo of the horse in question:

http://andromeda.qc.ca/gallery/albums/familyday05/IM002437.jpg

Oerdin
15-01-2006, 19:04:16
I'm not sure that is really homophobic so much as just some guy screwing with the cops.

Immortal Wombat
15-01-2006, 20:56:13
:lol:

Funko
16-01-2006, 09:32:38
:lol: @ picture


And Oerdin, of course it's just some guy screwing with the cops but they don't like that so they taught him a lesson. :D

Chris
16-01-2006, 11:05:26
That horses don't like to be called gay?

Venom
16-01-2006, 13:06:13
Look. The kid is obviously one of those Horse Whisperer people and was trying to help the horse come out of the closet.

King_Ghidra
16-01-2006, 13:08:35
true, his gift has gone unrecognised throughout this case

Drekkus
16-01-2006, 13:13:47
I think he's more of a Horse Heckler then a Horse Whisperer.

Resource Consumer
17-01-2006, 12:04:34
The guy seems like a trainee HARDMAN - still a bit too polite though

KrazyHorse@home
17-01-2006, 12:27:04
Well, he was speaking to the cops.

It's good to be on your best behaviour at times like that.