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JM^3
13-12-2005, 20:38:39
EVE

anyone else playing?

JM

HelloKitty
13-12-2005, 20:43:00
No, it costs money and I am ghetto until mid Jan.

Great game though. One of those rare games that started with almost no press and through word of mouth of the quality has become a big player in online games.

Qaj the Fuzzy Love Worm
13-12-2005, 20:54:47
There are night elves in EVE too? Ick.

Venom
13-12-2005, 20:57:31
Link?

JM^3
13-12-2005, 21:06:15
http://www.eve-online.com/

JM

Shining1
14-12-2005, 01:38:42
:lol: @ Qaj

HelloKitty
14-12-2005, 01:39:38
The guy from Nuklear powewr just started playing last week. For the Ex-SWG people here is what he said.

Also, it occurs to me that if the space portion of SWG was more like a slightly dumbed-down EVE online, I would never stop playing. Never.

In this perfect world that could never be, I would play a Wookie A-Wing pilot just so I could imagine my poor, oversized player character cramming himself into that tiny cockpit area like a wooly sardine.

[EDIT]Maybe I shouldn't make newsposts when I'm barely awake. To clarify the above, I've been playing the trial version of EVE, as you may have heard, and I'm really enjoying it. As fulfilling as it is to my nerd cortex, it occured to me that the game would be digial heroin if they overlayed the Star Wars mythos onto the system. Also, I know it's a lame joke, but I've loved my Wookie A-Wing pilot ever since the original tabletop SW RPG.

Back to EVE, Tim endorsed the game as "worthy" of my time. I thought at the time he was doing me a favor by letting me know about a game I'd probably like.

Little did I know it was revenge for hooking him on NFS: Most Wanted.

I sat down to play EVE's tutorial Thursday morning. Just a quick little jaunt to see what the game had to offer before getting to the day's business.

Then it was two in the morning.

Friday posed a problem, as there was a comic to do. But also freight to haul, deals to make, ships to buy, lives to ruin, etc. And that's why Hephaestus invented laptops and giant desks. I could work and play at once!

According to Lydia, "That's just sad, Brian. You need help."

I pose this question to you, faithful readers. How can it be sad when I'm so filled with glee? I'm plotting courses, setting orbits, killing space-pirates, and running black ops that "never happened" for my own government.

That's what I thought.

HelloKitty
14-12-2005, 02:16:12
Oh and here is the post fromt he guy who got him playing from when he was in his trial.

You know those days, the ones where you wake up with a list of things you want to accomplish, thinking to yourself how you'll be super-productive that day? And then you sit down to do something intending only to do it for an hour or so, and you wind up wasting the whole day on it? Yeah, yesterday was one of those days.

Fortunately I didn't go it alone, as I was able to trick some sucker-- erm, I mean, a friend of mine, into wasting the day as well. I find that if you're going to be lazy, it helps ease the guilt if you make someone else be lazy as well.

What I sunk my whole day into yesterday was EVE which I've been trying the free trial for. I am very intrigued, and I'm not even sure why yet. The game isn't quite as graphically flashy or intensive as maybe some other games are, but perhaps that's part of the appeal for me.

But one thing is for certain. I have never played an MMO with a deeper, more complex gameplay system. It's so complicated, in fact, that the tutorial takes like half a day to complete. I actually completed it over the course of three days. It's very, very easy to become overwhelmed the instant your ship launches.

I imagine the prospect of captaining your own ship out into the vast reaches of space to carve out a niche for yourself in the galactic struggle for dominance would appeal to just about any man. Even though you never get out and walk around on foot in EVE, you still get to create a unique character portrait. And then you're set loose with your newbie frigate to do what you can do.

Want to be a space pirate? Go for it. Focus on the necessary skills to get yourself an assault ship. Save of some credits and purchase and outfit your new rig and then head to the fringes of lawful space where you can be a highwayman on the many spacelanes of the galaxy, threatening and extorting cargo haulers and convoys. "Jettison your cargo or be destroyed".

Hate pirates? Make your living as a bounty hunter, tracking down space pirates who have become a little bit too greedy.

Want to be rich and build your own space stations? Become a miner or a tradesman. Save up for a ship with a large cargo hold and outfit her with the best mining lasers and drones, so you can go harvest the precious minerals found in the asteroid belts around the galaxy. Hire gunships as escorts, or upgrade your thrusters to outrun pirates.

There are no "classes" really. You don't choose "Space Pirate". You just create your character to be an offensive fighter, and live the life of a pirate. Your character is what you make it.

I've got about a week left of my free-trial, and I'm still on the fence about whether or not I'll become a full-time subscriber, but at the moment I am definitely enjoying the game. I can see how it wouldn't be a game for everyone, though. If you care about "phat lewt" and "pwning noobs", it's not for you. You could do that quicker in Warcraft. Given EVE's skill system, it would take an estimated 3 years to reach the equivelant of L60.

If you prefer simple, straightforward gameplay, a sort of "go here and do this and have fun" system, also probably not for you. EVE is more open ended. You have to make the choice for your style of play, and then how to best act it out.

It's also a much more laid-back game. I think if you are the type of person that wants to sit down and just game for a couple hours straight, you may get frustrated. Space is vast, and travel times between systems can take a while, even at warp speed on auto-pilot. It's very convenient for me, because I can forsee myself working on a comic, or accomplishing some other task during a particularly long series of jumps to my destination. If I had nothing else to do, I can see it getting boring sitting there watching your ship travel. And travel can be a fairly large part of the game, depending on your chosen profession.

I love World of Warcraft, but after a year of playing it off an on, and hitting L60 a couple of times, I've begun to get bored of the cartoony MMO. EVE is a refreshing break from that. I'm also looking forward to Vanguard for the same reason.

As I said, I'm still up in the air about whether I'll play EVE long term. It could happen, or I could find the magic wears off in the next 7 days and I won't bother. But if I do subscribe, I would consider starting a small Ctrl+Alt+Del corporation down the line. I've already met a lot of CAD fans in EVE (I never cease to be astonished how many of you there are anywhere I look), and it worked out well in World of Warcraft. Even though I stopped playing, the CAD guild is still going strong.

Venom
14-12-2005, 02:59:19
See, I haven't read a review that really made it seem like a home run. I guess I'll just have to try the free trial.

JM^3
14-12-2005, 13:28:20
I played it a good bit last night

slow, but very deep and seems interesting

JM

Lurker the Second
14-12-2005, 14:53:05
So it's all space?

JM^3
14-12-2005, 15:30:30
yepp

I think you would have a lot of fun with it lurker

you could spend all your time in a factory in some spacestation making civilian gattling guns or something

JM

JM^3
14-12-2005, 15:33:56
so there are scientists who work with blueprints

industrialists who build things

fighters (of types pirate, bounty hunter, governmental, corporate, etc)

miner

trader

corporate controller

startfleet leader

things to use in warfare include electronic warfare, drones, milssiles, railguns, plasma guns, lasers, and many more...

oh, and the skill system is totally open ended

Jon Miller

Lurker the Second
14-12-2005, 15:37:43
Sounds interesting. How long did the download take?

JM^3
14-12-2005, 15:40:12
not long.. less then an hour?

JM

JM^3
14-12-2005, 15:44:08
they are just about to do a huge patch of the game

so better to start tomorrow...

servers are going down for 24 in a couple hours

Jon Miller

Greg W
15-12-2005, 04:54:44
I have a friend who has been playing the game for a long time. At a guess, about a year and a half? He was an ex EQer from my guild, and tried out DAoC, WoW and SWG. He thinks that it is the best thing since sliced bread.

Having said that, I have heard that if you choose to be a miner, it can become excel in space. And from memory, you don't "fly" with a joystick, you use your mouse to click on things, such as an enemy ship, and your ship auto follows them, or flees from them, or whatever. Mind you, that last is from me trying the game out about a year and a half ago, back when he started, so who knows how it works now.

Lurker the Second
17-12-2005, 16:36:41
All right I signed up for this game and figure I'll give it a 30 day test. Will work on the tutorial over the weekend.

JM^3
17-12-2005, 17:56:33
My name is Taizu Lilith, and I am a Minmater

Jon Miller

JM^3
17-12-2005, 20:56:57
There appears to be some issues with the latest patch. Hopefully they get it all fixed soon.

I didn't have any lag or kicks or other issues when I was playing pre patch.

JM

Lurker the Second
19-12-2005, 14:54:22
Lack of playing time and lag/bug issues from the new patch severely limited my play this weekend. In fact, I really am only about 15 minutes into the tutorial. I like the look and feel of the game so far, but since I haven't even been to space yet that's a little like saying it comes in a pretty box.

Kind of neat to be able to train while offline. I have been trying to keep training going while not playing, although I haven't been as efficient about that as I could.

JM^3
19-12-2005, 15:09:55
training is important

I looked for you sunday

things got a lot stabler sunday, but not quite to prepatch levels.. (it was such that I could log on, and stay on, just fine.. but there were lag issues)

JM

Lurker the Second
19-12-2005, 16:56:39
I'll play tonight, but I might not get much further than the tutorial if it takes more than 2 hours to complete.

JM^3
19-12-2005, 17:02:11
I am Minmater btw, I have two freinds who are Gallente

JM