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Snapcase
22-11-2001, 18:54:39
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4304430,00.html

"It's refreshing that it's so different from the critics' lists," said Paul Trynca, editor of the music magazine Mojo.

I wanna cry. :(

Funkodrom
22-11-2001, 19:03:03
MeatLoaf at 4! LMAO!

Snapcase
22-11-2001, 19:37:02
Just out of curiosity, how many of these albums would end up on people's own top 100 lists?

Resource Consumer
22-11-2001, 20:03:29
Most of that list would just make me ill.

Sgt Pepper, Never Mind the Bollox, Queen is Dead. London Calling, Parallel Lines, The SPecials, Exodus, Straight Out of COmpton, Different Class, Armed Forces, Dare, Velevet Underground, Raw Power, TransEurope Express.

Score 14/100

Is that good or bad, I wonder?

Funkodrom
22-11-2001, 20:25:03
Don't know enough to have a top 100

These would be in definitely:
5 Nirvana Nevermind (1995)
6 Radiohead The Bends (1995)
8 The Beatles Revolver (1966)
9 The Beatles Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (1967)
17 The Stone Roses The Stone Roses (1989)
31 The Verve Urban Hymns (1997)
57 Led Zeppelin Led Zeppelin II (1969)
73 NWA Straight Outta Compton (1998)

These I like
14 Sex Pistols Never Mind the Bollocks Here's the Sex Pistols (1977)
19 Guns N' Roses Appetite for Destruction (1987)
22 Bon Jovi Slippery When Wet (1999)
41 Primal Scream Screamadelica (1991)

C.G.B. Spender
22-11-2001, 22:21:39
8 The Beatles Revolver (1966)
45 The Clash London Calling (1979)
49 Jimi Hendrix Experience Electric Ladyland (1967)
59 Van Morrison Astral Weeks (1968)
60 The Who Who's Next (1971)
90 Kate Bush Hounds of Love (1985)

Noisy
22-11-2001, 23:23:17
12 Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon (1973)
24 REM Automatic for the People (1992)
30 The Eagles Hotel California (1976)
46 Massive Attack Blue Lines (1991)
49 Jimi Hendrix Experience Electric Ladyland (1967)
53 Portishead Dummy (1994)
57 Led Zeppelin Led Zeppelin II (1969)
60 The Who Who's Next (1971)
66 Paul Simon Graceland (1986)
67 Massive Attack Mezzanine (1998)
80 Simon and Garfunkel Bridge Over Troubled Water (1969)
89 The Velvet Underground & Nico The Velvet Underground & Nico (1967)
90 Kate Bush Hounds of Love (1985)
93 Police Synchronicity (1983)

Yep, 14 for me as well. Average publication date of 1980. I can't believe that 'Demons and Wizards' wasn't included!

Funkodrom
22-11-2001, 23:23:55
Oh fuck! I didn't see Jimi! I'm sorry Jimi! He's, of course, in my top 100.

C.G.B. Spender
22-11-2001, 23:26:32
Don't mess with my Jimi!

Resource Consumer
22-11-2001, 23:27:06
I missed the Kate Bush one - that would have been there so I'd revise my score to 15/100.

The trouble is a lot of the rest of my top 100 would be incomprehensible for people here as, I suspect, anyone else's top 100 would be.

What about Suzanne Vega, the Ukrainians. The Adverts, TV Smith...., Julian Cope.

And what about XTC......

Subjectivity is the spice of life.

C.G.B. Spender
22-11-2001, 23:30:05
the HARDMAN!

Noisy
22-11-2001, 23:32:30
XTC? When you've got U2, REM, UB40, NWA, INXS and ABC to choose from, why do you need more initials?

Resource Consumer
22-11-2001, 23:37:32
The difference is,

in spite of coming from Swindon (a real handicap in anyone's language) XTC were actually good.

Snapcase
22-11-2001, 23:39:39
Definately in: Nevermind, Never Mind the Bollocks, Purple Rain, Pet Sounds, Off The Wall, Innervisions, Screamadelica, London Calling, Born to Run, The Queen is Dead, The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill, Hunky Dory, The Velvet Underground and Nico, Raw Power. 14/100.

Possibly in: Thriller, Songs in the Key of Life, Revolver, Definately Maybe, What's Going On, Ziggy Stardust, Sticky Fingers, Exodus, Bringing it all back home (what kind of choice is that for a Dylan album anyway?), TransEurope Express, The Doors.

So on a very, very good day 25/100.

C.G.B. Spender
22-11-2001, 23:43:30
Definatly XTC, at least 3 albums.
They are VERY CLEVER

PosterBoy
23-11-2001, 09:42:17
I'm not even going to even work out my score

29 Shania Twain Come on Over (1997)

I couldn't even look any further than that.

C.G.B. Spender
23-11-2001, 09:49:24
This is a very nice list:

10 Madonna Ray of Light (1998)
13 Robbie Williams Sing When You're Winning (2000)
22 Bon Jovi Slippery When Wet (1999)
34 Dire Straits Brothers in Arms (1985)
68 Tina Turner Private Dancer (1984)
72 Soul II Soul Club Classics Vol. One (1989)
94 Simply Red Stars (1991)

Excellent, though I miss Phil Collins' and Joe Cocker's 80s stuff

Snapcase
23-11-2001, 13:09:27
You've missed out those perennial stars on the british musical heaven, Craig David and David Gray.

Funkodrom
23-11-2001, 13:13:21
In the pub last night they had Craig David doing his ema performance of U2's One, he really needs to be shot.

Snapcase
23-11-2001, 14:01:29
Not reallt up there with Louise's cover of Stuck in the Middle With You, I feel.

Funkodrom
23-11-2001, 14:31:05
I dunno, it was pretty dire.

King_Ghidra
23-11-2001, 16:06:48
the concept of the european music awards is ridiculous anyway

King_Ghidra
23-11-2001, 16:09:08
actually hasn't this thread proved that between everyone's varied tastes, this board's composite top 100 wouldn't be much different from the vh-1 one?????

Funkodrom
23-11-2001, 16:12:38
Well a lot of us were only choosing from those 100, there are plenty of albums I'd choose that aren't in it.

My favourite 100 albums of all time isn't the 'best' 100 albums though, I have no idea how to quantify that.

King_Ghidra
23-11-2001, 16:18:00
well it's the kind of pointless task only attempted by magazines and tv shows desperate to pad out their thin content
oh and i suppose i would have to admit that all men are unbelievably anal and have to try and quantify/rate everything anyway :D

C.G.B. Spender
23-11-2001, 16:20:23
You only find out what you already know: these albums sell (sold) well.

Funkodrom
23-11-2001, 16:32:10
Yep.

It's also noticeable that 'critics' choices always focus on longer timescales than the public's choices. The public has a bias towards the last 20 years always.

C.G.B. Spender
23-11-2001, 16:36:23
2 years ago I saw a similar list (best band, best album, dunno). It was amazing to find the Spice Girls (album?) on 3 or 4.

Funkodrom
23-11-2001, 16:41:59
They sold a LOT of records.

C.G.B. Spender
23-11-2001, 17:04:41
Where are they? I didn't find them in that list ...

Funkodrom
23-11-2001, 17:07:43
I don't know. It's like they've vanished. :D

C.G.B. Spender
23-11-2001, 17:11:50
Last thing I heard they blow up the balls for some guy from Manchester ...

FunkyFingers
23-11-2001, 17:20:09
Got to say the top 4 in that list are really not there on merit compared to the ones in the remaining top 20.

I'm pretty bored of all these "The best 100 <insert genre/media> in the world, ever" lists/polls/programmes. I suppose it gets people talking about it - ooh, what's your top 5 type stuff, but as someone already pointed out, ti's just an exercise in filling out very thin publications and tv schedules.

The Desert Island Disc concept is the trickier one, and therefore I think more valuable. If you could only listen to 5 albums for the rest of your life, what would they be... Now we find where the real musical quality lies.

Snapcase
25-11-2001, 14:45:01
Oooh, I missed Straight Outta Compton and It takes a Nation of Millions To Hold Us Back. Add the first to my possibles and the latter to my definates, please.

I have to disagree about the sales/rating correlation. Some of the albums on here sold next to nothing on release, and have had only trickling sales since. No, a lot of it has to do with fashion, what it's hip to like, and so on.

(I love listings and ratings myself... :))

Funkodrom
26-11-2001, 12:04:07
Straight out of Compton is a great record, totally un PC of course but the music and quality of rapping is superb.

Aredhran
26-11-2001, 12:53:56
1 U2 The Joshua Tree (1987)
2 Michael Jackson Thriller (1982)
5 Nirvana Nevermind (1995)
8 The Beatles Revolver (1966)
12 Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon (1973)
21 U2 Achtung Baby (1991)
22 Bon Jovi Slippery When Wet (1999)
23 Coldplay Parachutes (2000)
24 REM Automatic for the People (1992)
30 The Eagles Hotel California (1976)
32 The Beach Boys Pet Sounds (1966)
34 Dire Straits Brothers in Arms (1985)
36 Dido No Angel (1999)
37 REM Out of Time (1991)
39 Moby Play (1999)
43 AC/DC Back in Black (1980)
44 Alanis Morissette Jagged Little Pill (1995)
48 INXS Kick (1987)
62 Bruce Springsteen Born to Run (1975)
66 Paul Simon Graceland (1986)
75 Peter Gabriel So (1986)
80 Simon and Garfunkel Bridge Over Troubled Water (1969)
90 Kate Bush Hounds of Love (1985)
93 Police Synchronicity (1983)
97 Queen A Kind of Magic (1986)
100 The Doors The Doors (1967)

25%

FunkyFingers
29-11-2001, 17:50:19
Polls schmolls :D

No longer Trippin
03-12-2001, 23:31:58
I wanna play copy and paste too!

Definantly:
5 Nirvana Nevermind (1995)
6 Radiohead The Bends (1995)
11 Radiohead OK Computer (1997)
12 Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon (1973)
14 Sex Pistols Never Mind the Bollocks Here's the Sex Pistols (1977)
16 Marvin Gaye What's Going On (1971)
42 David Bowie The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars (1972)
49 Jimi Hendrix Experience Electric Ladyland (1967)
52 Lauryn Hill The Miseducation of Lauren Hill (1998)
57 Led Zeppelin Led Zeppelin II (1969)
63 Bob Marley & The Wailers Exodus (1977)
73 NWA Straight Outta Compton (1998)
53 Portishead Dummy (1994)
79 Fugees The Score (1996)
100 The Doors The Doors (1967)

Eh, I might have missed some, talking to too many people online at the moment. Put I got to play the copy and paste game, so I'm happy.

Venom
04-12-2001, 00:51:38
I think I'm the only person that I know who's even heard of Velvet Underground, not to mention the only person I've ever met who likes them.

FunkyFingers
04-12-2001, 14:08:17
I've heard of the Velvet Underground, I just never liked them.

Their name always made me think of red velvet pants, don't know why... :clueless:

King_Ghidra
05-12-2001, 09:09:39
i think you're not in as small a minority as you think, venom.
i love the andy warhol album and the whole vibe of the band.
although no doubt someone will tell me off for finding the destructive 'heroin chic' glamorous :rolleyes:

Funkodrom
05-12-2001, 09:34:07
I've heard of Velvet Underground.

Snapcase
05-12-2001, 17:07:58
I've got all four of their albums (one in a 2-CD edition) plus a live double album and a bootleg, and I litsen to them all regularly.