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Funko
18-11-2005, 17:24:09
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hereford/worcs/4450196.stm

A man has invoked the 1689 Bill of Rights to fight a 60 parking fine from Worcester City Council at a tribunal.

Robin de Crittenden, 67, of Willenhall, near Wolverhampton, argues the bill protects people from having to pay fines until convicted by a court.

He said the challenge aimed "to put the politicians back in their kennels".

The National Parking Adjudication Service reserved judgment on the case but is expected to notify the parties of an outcome later this month.

Funko
18-11-2005, 17:24:50
(but he obviously won't)

Lazarus and the Gimp
18-11-2005, 17:26:26
Why? If he wins, the retrospective appeals process will make lawyers immensely wealthy and totally shag the public transport budget.

The Norks
18-11-2005, 17:55:57
he won't win for the same reason that someone wouldn't win if they shot a Scotsman with a longbow within sight of York castle (or whatever that law is)

LoD
18-11-2005, 17:59:53
Originally posted by The Norks
he won't win for the same reason that someone wouldn't win if they shot a Scotsman with a longbow within sight of York castle (or whatever that law is)

Depends. If the law is still valid then he might win.

The Norks
18-11-2005, 18:31:31
nope. the laws made subsequently would take precedence.

LoD
18-11-2005, 19:47:01
That's what I meant by "validity". Also, the law had to be of higher or same "order" in...errr, order to take precedence.

Venom
18-11-2005, 19:59:42
Wait, there's a law that says I can shoot Scotlanders with a bow and arrow?

Lurker the Second
18-11-2005, 21:45:19
They should update their travel brochures. I was entirely unaware of that and now feel cheated during my last visit.

Funko
19-11-2005, 12:25:23
Originally posted by The Norks
he won't win for the same reason that someone wouldn't win if they shot a Scotsman with a longbow within sight of York castle (or whatever that law is)

It's a welshman from Shrewsbury after dark or something. Definitely welshman and Shrewsbury

Funko
19-11-2005, 12:29:16
Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
Why? If he wins, the retrospective appeals process will make lawyers immensely wealthy and totally shag the public transport budget.

Because no-one's ever won before.

Cruddy
19-11-2005, 23:54:13
Originally posted by Funko
It's a welshman from Shrewsbury after dark or something. Definitely welshman and Shrewsbury

Actually it's the old border towns - both the English/Welsh border and the English/Scottish border. So Chester AND York have similar laws.

I guess it's one way to deter economic migrants.

A pity he wasn't claiming under Magna Carta. I think there's a few real old ones in there that are still used as precedents.

Venom
20-11-2005, 14:15:29
Wait, I need some info...SOMEONE TELL ME WHO I CAN SHOOT WITH A BOW AND ARROW DAMMIT!!!!

shagnasty
20-11-2005, 14:35:10
I think you have to be English for any taff/jock whupp'n. I think the Scotsman thingy is if you see a wee sweaty crossing the border into England on a Sunday you're allowed to hit them with a stick until they bugger off again, and the Welshman jobby is again only for a Sunday (not to sure though) and only in a certain county on the Welsh/English border, if'n you see a sheep shagger, you can shoot him but only with a long bow.
Wasn't there a thread about this ages ago on here, boyo's?

Beta1
20-11-2005, 15:37:03
I seem to remember canterbury having the same law about the french.

thing is he will lose.

You don't have to pay a parking fine - they give you a chance to pay it at a reduced rate before taking you to court. So all he's done is taken his right to have the case taken to the magistrates.

Rodgers
21-11-2005, 11:24:13
Originally posted by LoD
Depends. If the law is still valid then he might win.


Hmm, probably not - if a law has not been enforced for such a long period of time then it will be ignored by the court as being an anchronism.

Gary
21-11-2005, 11:33:07
You mean the system allows the courts to ignore the laws it doesn't want to enforce ?!? Arrhhh anarchy :D

MDA
21-11-2005, 11:51:25
not anarchy, anachronism!