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Scabrous Birdseed
15-11-2005, 21:32:15
Me and my GF have recently moved into a new appartment which unlike our last one is unfurnished, and we're more lucky than well-off at the moment so a lot of our furniture we've inherited from/been gifted by elderly relatives.

My problem with this is that a lot of the furniture is, well, fake. Not as in made to look a different style than it is (which I can't stand) or copies of well-known designer objects (which I could grudgingly accept) but fake in materials.

For example: We have a bookshelf, in pine, which has been painted (sometime in the eighties) to look like Mahogany. It's also got mass-produced "fancy" (though style-less) detailing in bronze.

We've got two floor lamps, actually not bad-looking, made of brass patinated to look like turned wood. If you look closely you can see the shafts are made of segments.

We've got a mini-chandelier (one ring) made of brass and plastic "crystal".

We've got a steel bed made to look like cast-iron.

Now, aside from the design merits of the various objects, is it fair to complain about the materials use? Or am I being silly? I don't really mind marbling or sort of folk-artsy fake materials really.

Immortal Wombat
15-11-2005, 21:50:22
Disappointing. I thought you meant like a fake bed which turned out to be cardboard boxes with a sheet over them, or a fake bookshelf which was actually just painted onto the wall.

I reckon it's always fair to complain - but unless you're going to do something about it, why bother?

Gary
15-11-2005, 21:58:06
Do they function properly ? Are they ok in appearance ? If so what's the problem ? Replace with better stuff if and when you can afford it, otherwise why fret ?

Lurker the Second
15-11-2005, 22:00:35
Originally posted by Scabrous Birdseed
lot of our furniture we've inherited from/been gifted by elderly relatives.


:lol: Those inconsiderate bastards. How dare they.

Scabrous Birdseed
15-11-2005, 22:13:04
I'm not dissing their kindness in any way, nor their taste really. I'm just wondering whether I should be slightly doubtful about the stuff or not.

Lurker the Second
15-11-2005, 22:18:07
Man, that's what starting out on your own is all about -- a whole lotta doubtful stuff and the occasional diamond in the rough.

Lazarus and the Gimp
15-11-2005, 22:21:05
Just wait until he works out that his girlfriend is entirely made of putty and twigs.

Scabrous Birdseed
15-11-2005, 22:33:58
That's what you get for asking a design-theoretical question.

I mean, yes, we're lucky to have the stuff we have.

Yes, we'll replace the items we don't like with stuff as we can afford to buy it.

But what I want to know is, is it a sound, modern-era attitude to want "truth in materials" (as any 1890s architect would put it), or is it stuck-up and elitist and we should accept everything in this post-modern world because everything is really just as fake anyway?

Lurker the Second
15-11-2005, 22:36:57
There's nothing wrong with wanting quality, especially if you can appreciate it.

Scabrous Birdseed
16-11-2005, 14:07:32
The problem is not that it's cheap furniture, it's that it's medium-priced furniture made with cheap materials, with the only argument for the price difference being that it looks "better" (ie. tackier) than it is.

I'd have no problem with a cheap pine shelf that's, I dunno, painted white or oiled or something, but they've latched on this fake-hardwood-luxury-cabinet feel to it. It's even got lead lined glass drinks cabinets with little lights in them, all made from cheap wood and paint and plastic and form-pressed cheap metal with bits carved off where you can't see them, like on the inside of handles (seriously).

Gary
16-11-2005, 14:11:53
Sounds very nice.
Fake it until you make it.

That said if it really irks you, bin it and get a few unpretentious soap boxes in instead.

King_Ghidra
16-11-2005, 14:41:48
celebrate your kitsch, scabrous

how about a painting of a lady with a blue face

Japher
16-11-2005, 15:06:00
But what I want to know is, is it a sound, modern-era attitude to want "truth in materials" (as any 1890s architect would put it), or is it stuck-up and elitist and we should accept everything in this post-modern world because everything is really just as fake anyway?

I like stuff that is what it looks like. If that makes me a snob than so be it.

If it's wood, it should look like wood.

King_Ghidra
16-11-2005, 15:18:11
i'm faking it

Funko
16-11-2005, 15:29:51
If it looks like wood it's probably laminate flooring - so easy to clean but really shows up the dirt. :hmm:

Japher
16-11-2005, 15:32:06
and sounds weird when walk on in tap shoes

Venom
16-11-2005, 15:52:39
What the fuck is Scabby actually complaining about?

Funko
16-11-2005, 15:52:56
No-one has any idea.

Funko
16-11-2005, 15:53:18
I think he's asking if it's ok to have the opinions he has.

Japher
16-11-2005, 15:55:07
of course it isn't... but he can have my opinion, it smells better

Venom
16-11-2005, 15:56:43
Opinions : Assholes: Stink

Japher
16-11-2005, 16:00:57
yeah, yeah

and if I wanted your opinion I would scratch it off my zipper

Venom
16-11-2005, 16:07:11
Maybe your asshole does smell better than Scabby's. We'll have to ask your mother to find out.

Japher
16-11-2005, 16:08:34
damn it Venom

MoSe
16-11-2005, 16:10:02
Originally posted by Japher
If it's wood, it should look like wood.

ah, yeah, wooden it be nice?

Lurker the Second
16-11-2005, 16:12:55
Originally posted by Funko
I think he's asking if it's ok to have the opinions he has.

Bingo! Took me a while to figure that out, though.

Funko
16-11-2005, 16:20:22
Me too.

Venom
16-11-2005, 16:24:00
Me seven.

Venom
16-11-2005, 16:24:30
Which is, probably not coincidentally, my mental age.

Tizzy
16-11-2005, 16:24:40
Really? You look much older.

Japher
16-11-2005, 16:25:21
doesn't act it though

Venom
16-11-2005, 16:26:51
Which is exactly what I just said Japher. Try and keep up.

Lurker the Second
16-11-2005, 16:27:31
He sometimes has his moments and acts around 11.

Japher
16-11-2005, 16:28:48
sometimes he acts older, like 11 or something

Lurker the Second
16-11-2005, 16:32:26
See, there's proof. Others have noticed this as well.

Funko
16-11-2005, 16:35:07
An 11 year old with behavioural problems and a reading age of 7

MoSe
16-11-2005, 16:41:55
as old as living 7 years in Reading makes you?

Venom
16-11-2005, 17:01:42
Illiteracy is what cool people do.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
16-11-2005, 17:04:25
Originally posted by Scabrous Birdseed
That's what you get for asking a design-theoretical question.


Serves you right for such an ill-designed question.

Japher
16-11-2005, 18:06:00
Illiteracy is what cool people do.



I wish I was illagitamate tioi

Oerdin
17-11-2005, 06:28:47
It could be worse. You could have a house down in Swedish flat packed furnishing since you needed to ditch the old college era stuff but couldn't afford the $5000 couches you wanted nor the $4000 dinning table set.

It's just as well. My roommates' cleaning habits seem to have stopped evolving at 21 so our kitchen has garbage which hasn't been taken out filled with a bunch of old cup of noodles cups and and old men's magazines.

mr.G
17-11-2005, 07:27:49
Originally posted by Funko
If it looks like wood it's probably laminate flooring - so easy to clean but really shows up the dirt. :hmm: :lol:

Funko
17-11-2005, 11:43:02
What's funny?

mr.G
17-11-2005, 11:45:35
pple wizz laminate flooring

Funko
17-11-2005, 11:48:01
True. Good for landlords.

Funko
17-11-2005, 11:49:05
My friends wife wants to put it on the floors, walls and ceilings of her house so it's easier to clean...

Funko
17-11-2005, 11:49:26
Laziness = good.

Tizzy
17-11-2005, 11:58:30
The ceilings get that dirty?!

Funko
17-11-2005, 12:05:04
Ok, I suggested the Ceilings that wasn't in her original plan

Venom
17-11-2005, 13:08:40
I want to Rhino-line the inside of my house. That would make it really easy to clean.

Lurker the Second
17-11-2005, 13:10:05
Clean? Bah, who cares.

Funko
17-11-2005, 13:24:27
People who don't live in dumpsters?

mr.G
17-11-2005, 13:27:40
Lurker : someone who lurks

Scabrous Birdseed
17-11-2005, 13:32:04
Wooden floors are easier to clean than laminate flooring, in my experience. Laminate really really draws the dust, vacuum and the next day it's there again.

Funko
17-11-2005, 13:34:23
I think it's just easier to see it.