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Oerdin
04-11-2005, 02:47:39
For the first time in my life I have recieved two great job offers on the same day. This is a new position for me to be in but I have a feeling I could get used to it. It's even more surprising since I thought I blew one of those interviews since there was a mix up about the time. WOOOT!

Now I have to wait for the official offer letters and compare the compensation packages as well as figure out which one would be the best fit for my career and personal life. The first one (which I thought I wouldn't get) is in the eviromental remediation field and it pays about $10k less then the other one, however, I'd be working a standard 8-5 and get to go home each night. The other is for a drilling company in the petroleum industry which pays more but would require a lot of extended travel. The head geologist said they fly their people out to the production areas for 21 days (3 weeks) then give them a week of paid vacation each month. This means I might be working any where from the gulf coast, California, the rockies, or even Alaska/Canada. They even just got a big drilling contract for Exxon off the New Zealand coast so they're relocating 6-8 people to New Zealand for the next year.

The first company is a small but very rapidly growing local firm while the other is a large company which is well known in the oil & gas industry. Decisions, decisions.

KrazyHorse
04-11-2005, 06:16:18
There's this guy named Oerdin at Poly who always seems to have the same stories as you.

We might be dealing with a Single White Female-type obsessive killer. Watch your back.

Drekkus
04-11-2005, 07:43:56
If you don't have wife and kids, go for the better paid travel option.

Oerdin
04-11-2005, 07:51:12
Originally posted by KrazyHorse
There's this guy named Oerdin at Poly who always seems to have the same stories as you.

We might be dealing with a Single White Female-type obsessive killer. Watch your back.

Not everyone posts on both sites.

mr.G
04-11-2005, 08:24:57
what drekkus said.

Oerdin
04-11-2005, 08:34:47
That's the one I'm leaning towards.

HelloKitty
04-11-2005, 08:38:39
Originally posted by Oerdin
Not everyone posts on both sites.

You can safely keep the poly stories there though.

You filthy poly bastard.

MoSe
04-11-2005, 09:33:43
Originally posted by Oerdin
For the first time in my life I have recieved two great job offers on the same day.

I don't think I've ever received ONE "great" job offer in my whole life, leave alone two and on the same day too it's sci-fi or mythology to me :rolleyes: :( :bash:

jsorense
04-11-2005, 23:01:48
More proof that Oerdin is Keilth.

Immortal Wombat
04-11-2005, 23:40:36
Enviromental remediation or environmental destruction. Decisions decisions.

Cruddy
05-11-2005, 01:56:37
Originally posted by Oerdin
The other is for a drilling company in the petroleum industry which pays more but would require a lot of extended travel. The head geologist said they fly their people out to the production areas for 21 days (3 weeks) then give them a week of paid vacation each month. This means I might be working any where from the gulf coast, California, the rockies, or even Alaska/Canada. They even just got a big drilling contract for Exxon off the New Zealand coast so they're relocating 6-8 people to New Zealand for the next year.


I'd insist on having it written in to the contract that I would not be expected to work in the Middle East.

Unless you fancy a flight back to Iraq? Nah, didn't think so.

Oerdin
05-11-2005, 03:52:28
Originally posted by Immortal Wombat
Enviromental remediation or environmental destruction. Decisions decisions.

I like to think of it as fixing other people's mistakes or making lots of money enabling other people to make mistakes.

Oerdin
05-11-2005, 04:00:02
Originally posted by Cruddy
I'd insist on having it written in to the contract that I would not be expected to work in the Middle East.

Unless you fancy a flight back to Iraq? Nah, didn't think so.

90% of the work is in the US or Canada (both countries are considered "domestic" for a number of industries including the oil industry) though this company does do work in Latin America (Venezuela & Brazil) as well as the south Pacific (Indonesia, Australia, & New Zealand). They haven't told me about any contracts in other areas like central Asia, the mid-east, Africa, or Europe.

Cruddy
06-11-2005, 02:11:52
Well bloody well ASK. They're not going to tell you about the crap side of the job if you don't ask them about it.

Sorry to be sharp, but I don't want to see you get fucked over just because you trusted an oil company.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
06-11-2005, 14:30:13
Don't forget to wear your "Bush is a War Criminal" shirt when you go to Venezuela.

Oerdin
06-11-2005, 19:20:15
:lol:

Still haven't recieved the official offer letters. Hopefully Monday.

Oerdin
08-11-2005, 07:22:54
Got both the official letters today. The traveling job came in exactly where I thought they would be but the other job came in a bit low.

Greg W
08-11-2005, 07:31:38
So, travelling job it is then?

The Norks
08-11-2005, 08:03:54
you can negotiate the wage- if they think you're the right person they should pay for it, especially if you make it known there's another job offer. Besides which, money isn't everything- you have to have self respect and enjoyment at work too

Oerdin
08-11-2005, 08:26:42
Sp far I'm going along with both while I try to negotiate up. If one falls through then the other it is.

Oerdin
10-11-2005, 02:41:04
I've done a lot of thinking about this and I've decided to go for quality of life over money. I'm helped in this decision in that the smaller enviromental company is a super promising company which has been named one of the 100 best private companies to work for in America by Inc Magazine as well as being twice named as one of the 500 fastest growing private companies in America by Fortune Magazine. The fellow who owns it seems to pay veteran employees very well though they do skimp a little for the new guys. The benifets package is great though. No co-pays for health or dental coverage, 100% 401k matching to 6.5% of gross, my monthly PPO premium would be about $23 with no co-pay for visits or perscriptions. Because their growth is so fast advancement potential seems better (8000% no shit growth in 2004 but only about 3500% in 2005); the company is exploding but all the senior managers and officers have experience in getting companies to grow to $1billion a year companies so they seem to be managing it well. Then there is the fact they give stock options while the oil services company doesn't.

I like the fact that this company offers such good benifets, that I wouldn't have to travel and can go home every night, that they offer stock options (and the company is getting written up in financial magazines for its explosive growth), and the advancement potential.

The drilling industry is very cyclical and after speaking with several vets of the industry they all seemed burned out from 3 out of every 4 weeks spent traveling, never seeing family, always being stationed in shitty places, etc. I did get my manager at the enviromental company to agree to have me get a review in 3 months (instead of the standard year after hire) so I plan to bust my ass for 3 months and see if I can't make up some of that pay difference.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
10-11-2005, 09:00:17
:beer:

"No co-pays for health or dental coverage, 100% 401k matching to 6.5% of gross, my monthly PPO premium would be about $23 with no co-pay for visits or perscriptions."

:clueless: so what do they pay you?

MDA
10-11-2005, 12:03:59
Originally posted by Oerdin
I like to think of it as fixing other people's mistakes or making lots of money enabling other people to make mistakes.

"If you're not part of the solution, there's good money to be made prolonging the problem."

:grats: you can't put a price on quality of life

HelloKitty
10-11-2005, 16:53:10
Originally posted by Dyl Ulenspiegel
:beer:

"No co-pays for health or dental coverage, 100% 401k matching to 6.5% of gross, my monthly PPO premium would be about $23 with no co-pay for visits or perscriptions."

:clueless: so what do they pay you?

In the US those things are more important than the actual salary sometimes. :(

Chris
10-11-2005, 16:56:20
Always take the money, and you can buy any life you want.

Oerdin
11-11-2005, 01:43:26
Salary isn't bad though I guess an extra $10k wouldn't have hurt. I just didn't want to spend 3/4 of mt days each month on an oil plateform or on the north slope.

Oerdin
11-11-2005, 03:04:42
HAHAHA! Tomorrow would have been my third day of work but it is a paid holiday so I'm going to sit on my ass and drink beer. :beer:

Hard to find a nongovernment job which will pay you to take veteran's day off. :bounce:

The Norks
11-11-2005, 17:50:16
I was hoping you'd choose life ;)

Venom
11-11-2005, 18:16:08
I would think you leftist principles would preclude you from work for one of the evil oil companies.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
11-11-2005, 19:28:10
Originally posted by Oerdin
Salary isn't bad though I guess an extra $10k wouldn't have hurt. I just didn't want to spend 3/4 of mt days each month on an oil plateform or on the north slope.

So they pay you $10k now?

Oerdin
11-11-2005, 20:01:18
Originally posted by Venom
I would think you leftist principles would preclude you from work for one of the evil oil companies.

I love it when you accuse me of being a leftist. :lol: Almost as good as when other people accuse me of being a reactionary.

Oerdin
11-11-2005, 20:02:00
Originally posted by Dyl Ulenspiegel
So they pay you $10k now?

No.

Japher
11-11-2005, 20:04:22
what's a plateform?

Oerdin
11-11-2005, 20:19:31
A platform with an extra e.

Japher
11-11-2005, 20:22:09
I;ve never heard of a Meta

so I don't know what's for

so stop asking

Venom
11-11-2005, 20:27:38
Originally posted by Oerdin
I love it when you accuse me of being a leftist. :lol: Almost as good as when other people accuse me of being a reactionary.

Considering your well posted hate of all things right leaning and Bushy, I don't think I'm jumping the gun here, Commie.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
11-11-2005, 21:25:18
Oerdin is no commie, he's a protofascist.

Japher
11-11-2005, 21:26:06
protodildo

Dyl Ulenspiegel
11-11-2005, 21:26:46
That too.

Chris
11-11-2005, 23:02:46
Protozola

Oerdin
12-11-2005, 09:12:47
Originally posted by Venom
Considering your well posted hate of all things right leaning and Bushy, I don't think I'm jumping the gun here, Commie.

seeings how I'm a geologist and push for greater domestic oil production I'd say you were. True, I also want to see much higher CAFE standards & improvements to the building code to increase energy efficency but that's hardly a reason to be surprised I'd look at working for an oil company.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
12-11-2005, 12:27:45
Oerdin, fighting the enemy from within.

Oerdin
12-11-2005, 19:55:26
:lol:

Believe it or not when I was interviewing with the oil company I had to sign a form saying I wasn't a member of a radical environmental group and I wouldn't try to sabotage their work. I guess a handful of incidents have happened in the past.

BigGameHunter
12-11-2005, 20:08:09
Congrats! Just don't get your hopes up...a lot of people waste precious time in honeymoon mode in a new job, instead of ruthlessly subjugating the competition and marching on their quivering bodies straight to the top.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
12-11-2005, 21:16:14
Originally posted by Oerdin
:lol:

Believe it or not when I was interviewing with the oil company I had to sign a form saying I wasn't a member of a radical environmental group and I wouldn't try to sabotage their work. I guess a handful of incidents have happened in the past.

You said "increase energy efficency", you radical envirocommie bastard.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
12-11-2005, 21:17:14
And what's this american habit of requiring the signing of forms that you aren't Hitler, Stalin, a terrorist or an english cow?

MOBIUS
12-11-2005, 21:22:32
BTW congrats Oerdin, I think you made the right choice...:beer:

HelloKitty
12-11-2005, 23:10:16
Originally posted by Dyl Ulenspiegel
And what's this american habit of requiring the signing of forms that you aren't Hitler, Stalin, a terrorist or an english cow?

Americans never write lies, so it is the perfect way to check.

BigGameHunter
13-11-2005, 09:00:10
We're also vulnerable to silver and the color pink.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
13-11-2005, 12:13:10
"Are you or have you ever been a member of a radical environmental group?"

"Sure."

"Would you ever try to sabotage our work?"

"Of course, I'm a violent enviro-fundie."

mr.G
13-11-2005, 12:57:06
I like bananas

Dyl Ulenspiegel
13-11-2005, 13:07:58
"Are you or have you ever been a dutch architect?"

mr.G
13-11-2005, 13:20:38
no........you?

Dyl Ulenspiegel
13-11-2005, 14:40:14
Thank goodness

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