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novacane
04-10-2005, 10:20:42
Just wishful thinking I'm afraid.

The sooner that lost cause stops jumping the queue for treatment the better.

Turn it in George.

I'd buy him a beer though. If only to speed things along a bit.

King_Ghidra
04-10-2005, 10:24:55
i don't generally wish anyone dead but i won't be shedding a tear for george

novacane
04-10-2005, 10:27:48
Wife beating, bed hopping alcoholics who waste vital organs given to them at the expense of somebody elses life are better off dead.

Funko
04-10-2005, 10:30:13
Nothing wrong with bed hopping alcoholics though right?

MattHiggs
04-10-2005, 10:33:50
Heard a statement on the radio this morning; went something along the lines of 'George Best doesn't seek sympathy of anyone etc....'

I don't really have an opinion.

Rodgers
04-10-2005, 10:36:57
I dont give a toss about George but just wish the media would stop reporting this crap - who on earth in the general public cares whether he dies or not? He stopped playing football years ago.

novacane
04-10-2005, 10:39:31
Seeking sympathy isn't the issue. This guy has had more help than any alcoholic in the history of time. Alcoholism is, no doubt, a very difficult thing to overcome and I'm not underestimating that. But, the fact is, this guy has been privileged to receive the finest advice, help and medical treatment, including a vital organ donation for which he jumped the queue, and still he doesn't do anything to help himself.

He's a lost cause. His agent said as much yesterday.

Rodgers
04-10-2005, 10:41:16
Isnt your agent meant to be on your side?

novacane
04-10-2005, 10:44:11
I think he was being realistic. He basically said that George was an alcoholic who could not be helped. If you read between the lines.

MoSe
04-10-2005, 11:23:41
:eek:

Provost Harrison
04-10-2005, 11:37:35
He is a lost cause indeed. It's rather distressing but it is hard to feel pity for someone who won't help himself at such an important time...

fp
04-10-2005, 12:15:23
His actions tend to suggest that he his content drinking himself to death. In that case, Georgie, the drinks are on me!

novacane
27-10-2005, 14:12:17
:rolleyes:

King_Ghidra
27-10-2005, 14:15:14
not yet!

Nills Lagerbaak
27-10-2005, 14:21:04
Oooh, you tease. Can't be long though.... poor bestie, I wouldn't wish anyone dead, but what a prick. Anyway, this;ll be my last post in this thread...my voodoo skills are uncanny.





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Provost Harrison
27-10-2005, 15:32:30
Looks like he's dead now though...

The Norks
27-10-2005, 18:24:34
Alcoholism is a powerful illness, and like other illnesses, the sufferer can't always overcome it. I doubt if he had all these ops and treatments because he thought 'bollocks to it', he's obviously struggled with this particular demon and looked for solutions more than most, but unfortunately for him he's in the public eye. Its a great shame that someone so talented and popular has fallen this far, and doubtless he has made mistakes as do we all, but I think its pretty harsh to blame him for his problems entirely, its akin to saying that people with depression just need to pull themselves together and cheer up a bit, and epileptics just need to stop shaking about on the floor like that.

Venom
27-10-2005, 19:07:59
Because that floor is fucking dirty.

LoD
27-10-2005, 19:55:38
Of course, Norks. Because alcoholism is something that affects someone totally regardless of what that person does.

The Norks
27-10-2005, 23:28:15
that sentence can be read straight or sarcastic- which is it?

Lazarus and the Gimp
28-10-2005, 07:19:48
His replacement liver is fine, apparently.

MOBIUS
28-10-2005, 09:22:26
Do you think they'll be able to retransplant his liver?

Funko
28-10-2005, 09:23:37
He's apparently doing a bit better.

Nills Lagerbaak
28-10-2005, 09:27:12
Better than best? Wierd.

MOBIUS
28-10-2005, 09:28:05
George takes a turn for the Best?

Nills Lagerbaak
28-10-2005, 15:02:34
OK - question. Once one replacement liver has packed up (say 20 years if you're lucky) is it possible to have a second liver transplant?

MOBIUS
28-10-2005, 15:11:21
Don't see why not - from a physical POV...

MOBIUS
28-10-2005, 15:12:09
Though there should be a clause on your donor card where you can stipulate not giving your organs to people who have abused theirs...

Lazarus and the Gimp
28-10-2005, 15:14:23
Why stop there? Why not specify your organs should only go to people who aren't fat? Or who recycle their newspapers? Or are white (as some people want)?

MOBIUS
28-10-2005, 15:19:39
Well it is your organ after all...;)

King_Ghidra
28-10-2005, 15:57:00
i know where i want my organ to go, but the missus isn't always up for it

Venom
28-10-2005, 15:58:24
I knew someone was going to say something like that. And I knew it would be you.

King_Ghidra
28-10-2005, 16:01:43
and you knew nobody would do it better

Nills Lagerbaak
28-10-2005, 16:02:17
Originally posted by King_Ghidra
i know where i want my organ to go, but the missus isn't always up for it

At times like that a little flattery normally does the trick.

"I love every muscle in your body"


"Really?:o ....you're so sweet"

"Especially mine"

MOBIUS
28-10-2005, 16:02:34
K_G wins predictable post of the day!:beer:

Funko
28-10-2005, 16:03:03
That's rubbish.

Nills Lagerbaak
28-10-2005, 16:03:53
Do you have any Indian in you?

No.

Would you like some?

Funko
28-10-2005, 16:05:11
Yeah, I'd love a Jalfrezi. Ta.

Venom
28-10-2005, 16:05:28
Originally posted by King_Ghidra
and you knew nobody would do it better

You are the King of Ghidra after all.

novacane
28-10-2005, 16:05:35
Originally posted by The Norks
Alcoholism is a powerful illness, and like other illnesses, the sufferer can't always overcome it. I doubt if he had all these ops and treatments because he thought 'bollocks to it', he's obviously struggled with this particular demon and looked for solutions more than most, but unfortunately for him he's in the public eye. Its a great shame that someone so talented and popular has fallen this far, and doubtless he has made mistakes as do we all, but I think its pretty harsh to blame him for his problems entirely, its akin to saying that people with depression just need to pull themselves together and cheer up a bit, and epileptics just need to stop shaking about on the floor like that.

No, no, no, no, no. Please stop being so PC. You need to look at the reality of this case. This is an extreme case.

No-one is underestimating alcoholism here. You're arguing with yourself. The lack of sympathy for George Best stems from the privileged treatment he has received. And apparantly wasted. OK, so George Best can't beat alcohol addiction. That is sad as you point out and something which he is obviously not capable of. But, George Best has been given all the help possible, moreso than any other alcoholic in the history of time. He's received a priority liver transplant, given in the death of another person and at the expense of another needy patient who may have served it much better. The liver transplant was his last chance, he was told as much at the time, and yet he still drinks. He's an alcoholic, fair enough, but if a liver transplant isn't enough of a wake up call, then I'm afraid you're a lost cause. Very sad in terms of a life lost to alcohol addiction, but you have to be realistic, George Best has been beaten, and there'll be no dramatic comeback story. The crowd just want to hear the final whistle. :rolleyes:

Nills Lagerbaak
28-10-2005, 16:07:28
They drink it's all over....

King_Ghidra
28-10-2005, 16:07:55
:(

can we go back to the anal innuendo now please

Funko
28-10-2005, 16:08:49
It's great that innuendo is, in itself, an innuendo.

Nills Lagerbaak
28-10-2005, 16:11:06
Originally posted by King_Ghidra
:(

can we go back to the anal innuendo now please

Fine. I'm sure Georgie doesn't mind being the butt of all our jokes.

Spartak@CPH
28-10-2005, 16:18:49
Originally posted by King_Ghidra
:(

can we go back to the anal innuendo now please :brwncard:

Lazarus and the Gimp
28-10-2005, 18:25:05
Originally posted by novacane
. The liver transplant was his last chance, he was told as much at the time, and yet he still drinks. He's an alcoholic, fair enough, but if a liver transplant isn't enough of a wake up call, then I'm afraid you're a lost cause. Very sad in terms of a life lost to alcohol addiction, but you have to be realistic, George Best has been beaten, and there'll be no dramatic comeback story. The crowd just want to hear the final whistle. :rolleyes:

Don't be so ghoulish.

Best's current illness has nothing to do with resumed drinking- he caught an infection due to poor functioning of his immune system caused by his anti-rejection drugs. It's a risk all transplant patients face. His liver, as confirmed by his doctor, is fine.

Lazarus and the Gimp
28-10-2005, 18:26:14
Would you actually derive satisfaction if his death was caused by resumed drinking?

Spartak@CPH
28-10-2005, 18:35:52
who was that directed at?

Lazarus and the Gimp
28-10-2005, 20:07:53
Novocane, or anyone else wanting to respond.

The Norks
28-10-2005, 20:12:48
Novacane you can't say 'fair enough he's an alcoholic' and then berate him for his innumerable relapses. It doesnt matter how much privilege or help he's had, he has an illness that causes him to drink- unfortunately for him he can't beat it, and it irks people because like you they seem to think he's just adopted a devil may care attitude to it (despite the major surgery he undertook to help him conquer it).

He's not doing it deliberately to spite some poor deserving bugger who needs a liver, he is ILL. :rolleyes:

LoD
28-10-2005, 20:27:01
Originally posted by The Norks
that sentence can be read straight or sarcastic- which is it?

Here's a hint: check some info on the causes of those three medical conditions.

MOBIUS
28-10-2005, 22:35:55
Personally I blame the media, I wouldn't be so tired of Best if they didn't report his woes so much - it is currently headline news FFS!

In fact I wonder how much of his alcoholism is down to the pressures of the constant media goldfish he finds himself in...:rolleyes:

The Norks
29-10-2005, 02:13:28
Originally posted by LoD
Here's a hint: check some info on the causes of those three medical conditions.

no, I'm too lazy :)

Lazarus and the Gimp
29-10-2005, 06:57:02
Originally posted by MOBIUS

In fact I wonder how much of his alcoholism is down to the pressures of the constant media goldfish he finds himself in...:rolleyes:

Is a "media goldfish" where they forget about you every five seconds? Like Christopher Biggins and Nerys Hughes?

MOBIUS
29-10-2005, 09:44:09
:lol:

Obviously I missed a word or two out of that sentence...

King_Ghidra
31-10-2005, 09:09:36
first it was jonah and the whale, and now george best and the media goldfish, a modern parable in the making

Venom
31-10-2005, 13:09:02
If it's a mutant goldfish George is in serious trouble.

Gary
24-11-2005, 14:17:10
Final hours ? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4465456.stm)

The Norks
24-11-2005, 14:31:17
its very sad really that anyone can go from being such a talented and blessed man to destroying themselves in sich a horrible way through an illness they can't control :(

King_Ghidra
25-11-2005, 10:24:53
whatever

on the cover of the metro that i saw over someone's shoulder on the tube today, the headline read (george's words i guess):

'i hope they remember the football'

george, if it wasn't for the football, no one would remember you at all

MattHiggs
25-11-2005, 10:31:48
I think he means that he doesn't want to be remembered for the frail, run-down alcoholic that he'd become.

The guy has brought happiness to so many lives it's a shame he couldn't beat his acohol addiction before he died :(

God bless him.

Funko
25-11-2005, 10:41:47
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4465456.stm

Over the last few days we've had updates about his condition, at least a couple a day on the BBC site.

Personally I reckon he saw this thread and is deliberately holding on to drive Novacane crazy.

mr.G
25-11-2005, 10:43:01
was he better then Karl-Heinz Rummenigge?

Funko
25-11-2005, 10:43:45
mrG!!! You can't use that kind of racist language in this day and age!! :bash:

MoSe
25-11-2005, 11:04:22
Originally posted by mr.G
was he better then Karl-Heinz Rummenigge?

ogp
he was the best

mr.G
25-11-2005, 11:15:54
Originally posted by Funko
mrG!!! You can't use that kind of racist language in this day and age!! :bash: tell me, was he better then Karl-Heinz Rummenigge?

MoSe
25-11-2005, 11:20:36
I see that dutch assholezuiker still has me on ignore :p

novacane
25-11-2005, 12:40:21
My my. He is a fighter isn't he.

Unfortunate that this new found resilience has come too late.

novacane
25-11-2005, 13:13:30
He just passed away. Fare thee well George.

:beer:

mr.G
25-11-2005, 13:21:51
:beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:
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Nav
25-11-2005, 13:33:23
I'm not normally so harsh but..

at fucking last. :beer:

Funko
25-11-2005, 13:36:09
Is anyone else surprised that the BBC managed to get an Obituary ready at such short notice?

novacane
25-11-2005, 13:49:56
Yeah they make me sick. Its almost like they were expecting it.

Funko
25-11-2005, 13:50:56
I think it's just great, and fast, journalism.

Lazarus and the Gimp
25-11-2005, 13:55:41
Obituaries for all major figures are always kept on standby. The Queen Mother's was first written 50 years before she actually died.

Funko
25-11-2005, 13:56:41
Yes... I knew that but even if not..

I was being sarcastic as they've been telling us he was dying every day for 3 weeks.

Lazarus and the Gimp
25-11-2005, 14:00:06
I'm hoping to read a Best obituary that states he still plays for Man Utd.

Funko
25-11-2005, 14:00:49
Even dead he could get in the current side.

Nills Lagerbaak
25-11-2005, 14:08:24
And so it begins:

Doctor-"George, I have some bad news and some good news. The bad news is
youre going to die in the next hour"
George Best-"Fucking hell, whats the good news?"
Doctor-"Its happy hour over the road"

Funko
25-11-2005, 14:08:46
:lol:

Nills Lagerbaak
25-11-2005, 14:09:20
What's yellow and runs off a 13 amp plug?

George Best.

MOBIUS
25-11-2005, 16:21:05
In the words of Jack London:

I would rather be ashes than dust!
I would rather that my spark should burn out
in a brilliant blaze than it should be stifled by dry-rot.
I would rather be a superb meteor, every atom
of me in magnificent glow, than a sleepy and permanent planet.
The function of man is to live, not to exist.
I shall not waste my days trying to prolong them.
I shall use my time.

I think he managed that. Was his life a failure? Quite the opposite I think...

Cheers George!:beer:

Provost Harrison
25-11-2005, 17:16:00
Shit no! :( I didn't see that one coming :(

mr.G
25-11-2005, 17:30:58
tell me, was he better then Karl-Heinz Rummenigge?