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protein
24-09-2005, 02:22:15
I'm sure the Vatican isn't anywhere near as evil as it used to be and the pope is probably actually a nice old man (apart from the weird sex hang ups) but...

he's scary.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40835000/jpg/_40835974_ap_pope203.jpg

self biased
24-09-2005, 04:47:23
i'd hit it.

Lazarus and the Gimp
24-09-2005, 07:51:22
I think he looks a bit like Anne Widdecombe.

protein
24-09-2005, 11:36:11
Probably gets as much sex as Anne Widdicombe and yet he can tell one fifth of the world how to have it and who to have it with.

Fergus & The Brazen Car
24-09-2005, 12:14:16
Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
I think he looks a bit like Anne Widdecombe.


Yes, but more feminine.

Alexander's Horse
24-09-2005, 12:31:37
they did it to scare protestants

protein
24-09-2005, 12:52:09
and jews and muslims.

Alexander's Horse
24-09-2005, 12:53:55
and catholics

but in person he's quite likeable

protein
24-09-2005, 12:59:40
Apart from all the extreme views, covering up child abuse scandals, being anti-abortion, anti-gay, anti-other religions, being a powerful and scary man, believing in creationism, god, invisible beings, virgin births, magic and miracles and his divine right to rule over one fifth of the population of the entire planet, I'm sure you are right. I bet he throws a great dinner party.

Alexander's Horse
24-09-2005, 13:03:02
lots of nasty people are quite likeable in person - the Khmer Rouge I met had lovely manners

Fergus & The Brazen Car
24-09-2005, 13:06:04
Originally posted by protein

I bet he throws a great dinner party.


The flambed heretics are divine, darling, simply divine!

And you must try the apostate mixed grill- exquisite.

Alexander's Horse
24-09-2005, 13:10:19
The Pope has always said the instruments of torture are useful in the kitchen

Nills Lagerbaak
24-09-2005, 13:14:43
I hear he does a divine rack of lamb.

The iron maiden (real maiden served from a spiked dish) is out of this world.....

Fergus & The Brazen Car
24-09-2005, 13:31:57
You should try the Holy Inquisition pear- an exquisite dessert fruit, consumed in slightly unorthodx fashion though:

Quite a versatile tool, the pear, it is used upon you of foul tongue or sexual practice. For you who speak heresy, it is inserted deep into your mouth, for the male homosexual, your anus, and for the woman who would have sexual relations with that which is not holy, your vagina.

http://www.inquisitionchamber.com/church/pear.htm


Interestingly enough, it was a pope who was responsible for pressuring an English king to introduce torture into the English legal code....

Provost Harrison
24-09-2005, 14:10:23
Not the kind of old man you'd want to come near your children :eek:

Alexander's Horse
24-09-2005, 14:26:38
Inquisition oozed kinky S&M sex.

Oerdin
24-09-2005, 17:25:30
I think I will strike a blow for religious freedom and have some unholy sex. I'm assuming just shagging a chick I'm not married to will suffice.

MOBIUS
24-09-2005, 18:33:29
Yep - definitely a one way ticket to hell!:beer:

KrazyHorse@home
24-09-2005, 19:51:25
Just get on the Highway to Hell. I hear it's quicker.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
24-09-2005, 20:49:38
Originally posted by protein
Apart from all the extreme views, covering up child abuse scandals, being anti-abortion, anti-gay, anti-other religions, being a powerful and scary man, believing in creationism, god, invisible beings, virgin births, magic and miracles and his divine right to rule over one fifth of the population of the entire planet, I'm sure you are right. I bet he throws a great dinner party.

I do not think that the pope believes in creationism. That's for weird american evangelists.

protein
25-09-2005, 00:26:30
So the even the pope knows the bible is bollocks?

MOBIUS
25-09-2005, 00:29:28
Anyone who's ever read the bible and has a brain knows it's bollocks...

Provost Harrison
25-09-2005, 00:41:03
Yeah, But JP II's brain had become a grey mush by the end of his papacy :D

protein
25-09-2005, 00:43:33
I tried to read it once. It starts of brilliantly and then decends into all that boring begatting and crap after a couple of pages.

Provost Harrison
25-09-2005, 01:03:40
I find his resemblance to Darth Sidious most disturbing...

DaShi
25-09-2005, 05:33:47
You think everyone resembles Darth Sidious. ;)

Rodgers
26-09-2005, 13:06:12
Originally posted by KrazyHorse@home
Just get on the Highway to Hell. I hear it's quicker.


So have they added more lanes since Chris Rea wrote "Road To Hell" - or is it some sort of bypass scheme?

MoSe
26-09-2005, 13:14:40
It's the evolution baby!

Err.... no, maybe it was created that [high]way...
:nervous:

Funko
26-09-2005, 13:27:46
Originally posted by protein
I tried to read it once. It starts of brilliantly and then decends into all that boring begatting and crap after a couple of pages.

After all that begat stuff it goes into a load of stuff about plagues, battles, fire and brimstone.

Bet bit.

Much better than all that boring new testament "be good to each other" crap.

Alexander's Horse
26-09-2005, 14:57:11
and now back to the stick cricket

Funko
26-09-2005, 15:15:07
I need 338 today to get first place in our league and I'm having an off day. FUCK!

Alexander's Horse
26-09-2005, 15:32:19
I'm having a lot of trouble with the spinners.

Funko
26-09-2005, 15:47:13
I'm just generally being shit.

Funko
26-09-2005, 15:47:34
When I said 338 I meant 238.

338 would be the best score EVAH.

mr.G
26-09-2005, 15:49:32
so you need 338 *point*

Drekkus
26-09-2005, 15:52:39
shit stick cricket.

Funko
26-09-2005, 15:57:30
Shit Drekkus!

Drekkus
26-09-2005, 16:21:17
That doesn't have a good ring to it.

Funko
26-09-2005, 16:22:15
Shit Shit Kisser.

Drekkus
26-09-2005, 16:25:02
:lol:

Lazarus and the Gimp
26-09-2005, 19:48:31
Originally posted by Funko
After all that begat stuff it goes into a load of stuff about plagues, battles, fire and brimstone.

Bet bit.

Much better than all that boring new testament "be good to each other" crap.

The New Testament picks up a lot once St John the Divine of Patmos turns up. Fire, lakes of burning sulphur, angels with keys, Anti-Christs, etc.

MDA
26-09-2005, 19:58:36
He's not evil, he's just German.

Lazarus and the Gimp
26-09-2005, 20:03:19
He definitely looks a bit feminine. I think he's the new Pope Joan.

Alexander's Horse
26-09-2005, 22:46:35
He wears frocks I know that much

protein
26-09-2005, 23:22:57
I think they did that ceremonial bollock check didn't they?

mr.G
26-09-2005, 23:40:58
Originally posted by Funko
Shit Shit Kisser. :lol:

Shining1
27-09-2005, 07:24:00
/serious

My theory is that the liberal side of the catholic church (for a given value of liberal, yeah I know) voted for him in the hope that:
* He would demonstrate the extremist right wing views do nothing to advance the religion
* He's over 70 and would have to retire within after a relatively short duration - hopefully having done enough damage to demonstrate that a liberal pope is required, but not enough damage to endanger the church wholesale. Thus they can then get a liberal pope who will hopefully last say 30 years.

/serious

mr.G
27-09-2005, 07:50:54
are you serious?

Oerdin
27-09-2005, 08:04:18
I don't think he is. He said /serious twice.

Nills Lagerbaak
27-09-2005, 11:51:51
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article315384.ece


"polls show that at least 45 per cent of Americans believe God made man in his current form. Only 26 per cent believe in the central tenet of evolution, that all life descended from a single ancestor, and 65 per cent believe schools should teach creationism as well as evolution."

Intelligent design or creationism belongs in an R.E lesson not a science lesson! Science is about teaching different theories that can be backed up by evidence.
By relying on lack of evidence for a particular theory to prove the validity of a counter theory is not good enough and certainly has no place in a class room.

e.g. Creationism is true because there is are gaps in the fossil record.

Dumb, dumd, dumb I can't believe they won this case :(

Kitsuki
27-09-2005, 12:05:56
And that's another example of why Americans are not nearly as clever as they seem to think they are.

Funko
27-09-2005, 12:15:01
That's nothing to do with clever/not clever it's to do with how they've been taught.

Einstein thought that Uncertainty principle was wrong. He famously said "god does not play dice".

If I went up to some physics student and said that the Uncertainty principle was wrong because "god does not play dice" then they'd probably say I was stupid, but Einstein clearly wasn't stupid. He just had a worldview that turned out to be out of date.

The Creationist lobby is great at marketing themselved, discrediting evolution and spreading false information.

Is it bullshit? Yes. But how many of the population of any country have the scientific knowledge to counter, in detail, all the creationists movement's claims?

Anyway, I think it's pretty unrealistic to think that the spread of intelligence in the US is any different to any other country in the world.

MoSe
27-09-2005, 12:21:28
it's just they have a vaster surface and the spread gets thinner?
;)

Dyl Ulenspiegel
27-09-2005, 12:27:29
brain is like peanut butter ?

MoSe
27-09-2005, 13:02:37
is that an "American Pie" thing?

Shining1
28-09-2005, 03:03:22
I don't get this intelligent design thing.

nature is too complex to have 'evolved', therefore it was created by a highly intelligent being?

Sooo... who made the highly intelligent being?

Which seems to be religion's least favourite question of all - 'who made god'.

In all honesty I think this is more a resounding indictment of the state of the U.S (and other countries) legal system than anything else.

Alexander's Horse
28-09-2005, 12:30:54
God was begotten not made

Funko
28-09-2005, 12:38:32
Well in that case, who's God's daddy?

fp
28-09-2005, 12:44:43
Originally posted by Funko
Anyway, I think it's pretty unrealistic to think that the spread of intelligence in the US is any different to any other country in the world.

Indeed. If we've learnt anything from the great culturual melting pot that is the internet, it is that 99% of people from everywhere are total morons.

Funko
28-09-2005, 12:45:24
Yeah. And nice spelling of cultural you moron!

fp
28-09-2005, 12:48:33
See, I'm right.

Nills Lagerbaak
28-09-2005, 13:09:52
Yeah, but you'd think that most people could undestand the difference between a scientific disciplin and a religious notion.

Funko
28-09-2005, 13:35:40
Yeah, but the intelligent design people have been incredibly clever with how they've marketed their concepts.

This is a great article on the subject but unfortunately you can't read it all unless you subscribe:

http://www.newscientist.com/channel/being-human/dn7647

I'll see if I can find a free article on it. In the meantime, have a look at The Discovery Institute's web page.

http://www.discovery.org/

This is one of the Intelligent Design promoting institutes.

Check out articles like this:

http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/index.php?command=view&id=2834&program=CSC&callingPage=discoMainPage

It's bullshit but it's very, very well crafted and you can see why it can be quite difficult for laypeople to tell the difference between their stuff and genuine scientific papers.

The scientific community are notoriously disorganised and poor at marketing what they do and the ID people have really stolen a march on them.

Nills Lagerbaak
28-09-2005, 14:10:26
Jesus, the day science becomes marketing is the day I hang up my goggles.

Nills Lagerbaak
28-09-2005, 14:17:47
That article is the most needlessly complicated thing I have ever read. The very tone, never mind the content is pure philosophy which in itself supports the case forbanishing it from the classroom.

It's an article attempting to poo-poo the very criteria that scientists use to judge a theory. Fine. Invent a whole new subject called bullshitsu, just don't inlcude me in it.

Alexander's Horse
28-09-2005, 14:30:42
Originally posted by Funko
Well in that case, who's God's daddy?

God :p

The Norks
28-09-2005, 14:37:34
the concept of the creation is no more ridiculous than the big bang. In fact to the layperson it makes more sense, as you just don't see something appear from nothing in the world around you. There's always a cause.

I am not a creationist btw, just playing devil's advocate :)

Nills Lagerbaak
28-09-2005, 14:42:27
Science has never claimed to be able to explain events in the first few miliseconds of the universe - every scientist will tell you that is the realm of philosophers and theologins.

Sorry for the cut and paste but this section of that article is bollox (or I'm missing summit). It's supposed to be a case why science fails on it's own "Must obey natural law"

...


Perhaps another example will help. If one wishes to explain why astronauts were able to fly to the moon when apples usually fall to the earth, one will not primarily cite the law of gravity. Such a law is far too general to be primarily relevant to explanation in this context, because the law allows for a vast array of possible outcomes depending on initial and boundary conditions. The law stating that all matter gravitates according to an inverse square law is consistent with both an apple falling to the earth and with an astronaut flying to the moon. Explaining why the astronaut flew when apples routinely fall, therefore, requires more than citing the law, since the law is presumed operative in both situations. Accounting for the differing outcomes—the falling apple and the flying astronaut—will require references to the antecedent conditions and events that differed in the two situations. Indeed, explanation in this case involves an accounting of the way engineers have used technology to alter the conditions affecting the astronauts to allow them to overcome the constraints that gravity ordinarily imposes on earthbound objects.

Such examples suggest that many explanations of particular events—explanations that occur frequently in fields already regarded as scientific—such as cosmology, archaeology, historical geology, applied physics and chemistry, origin-of-life studies and evolutionary biology would lose their scientific status if Ruse's criterion of "explains via natural law" were accepted as normative to all scientific practice.


...

In this stupid example you just break it down to simpler laws, like that of density, combustion, stress and strain, which all eventually boil down to the natural laws. They have said nothing here (albeit in a clever way). I know see the problem.

Nills Lagerbaak
28-09-2005, 14:46:26
In their argument against descent, they say evolution thoery again does not obey natural law....

What about the fact that cells reproducing in the same manner time after time will eventually differ in the result?! If that's not a law then I don't know what is.

protein
28-09-2005, 14:54:05
Originally posted by Shining1
I don't get this intelligent design thing.

nature is too complex to have 'evolved', therefore it was created by a highly intelligent being?

Sooo... who made the highly intelligent being?

Which seems to be religion's least favourite question of all - 'who made god'.

In all honesty I think this is more a resounding indictment of the state of the U.S (and other countries) legal system than anything else.
There is a part of the human brain linked to both religion and the ability to grasp long periods of time and complex ideas. The more damaged that part of the brain is, the more likely you are to have religious experiences.

If you can't look at a mountain and marvel at billions of years of heat, cooling, growth, destruction, gravity, rebirth and so on you are going to marvel at how that massive and complex thing just appeared there. The answer to which is that it was put there as it is by someone. Someone very big. Someone to fear.

protein
28-09-2005, 15:00:20
Originally posted by Nills Lagerbaak
Fine. Invent a whole new subject called bullshitsu, just don't inlcude me in it.

Hey, that's the martial art I've been developing. Hands off mofo.

Nills Lagerbaak
28-09-2005, 15:02:26
Right everyone! Stop your arguing! Someone just sent me definitive proof that evolution is in fact - wack!!


http://beedogs.com/

protein
28-09-2005, 15:03:07
:lol:

King_Ghidra
28-09-2005, 15:07:04
best site evah! :lol:

Funko
28-09-2005, 15:15:54
Can someone now show me a bulldog shitzu cross in a bee costume?

Nills Lagerbaak
28-09-2005, 15:35:04
that is the next logical evolutionary step. (I don't have one by the way, but I'm sure fossils exist).

Provost Harrison
28-09-2005, 16:07:00
Excuse me Nills, you've been predated :p

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=138943

Funko
28-09-2005, 16:09:19
Why didn't you post it here then?

Provost Harrison
28-09-2005, 16:10:09
Good question :p

Provost Harrison
28-09-2005, 16:11:26
But meanwhile (I'd post the picture here but CG has the most pathetic attachment size limits)...

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=139039

Nills Lagerbaak
28-09-2005, 16:23:26
What does it say (one has to register)?

Funko
28-09-2005, 16:32:06
It's directions to the best mushroom site near bristol.

King_Ghidra
28-09-2005, 16:41:32
i just wanted to say, i like the pope, the pope smokes dope

thank you

Funko
28-09-2005, 16:42:24
When the pope smokes dope is it soap (bar)?

Nills Lagerbaak
28-09-2005, 16:57:38
Originally posted by Funko
It's directions to the best mushroom site near bristol.

You're so cruel getting my hopes up. Still, there's no way those losers would know where to find any.



Still please tell me what it says!!!

Funko
28-09-2005, 16:59:28
He just posted that bee dog thing, the second one is about some burglars snorting stuff from a bag labeled charlie but it was the owner's dog (called Charlie)'s ashes