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Drekkus
22-08-2005, 17:27:19
I'm waisting some time at the office waiting for the right time to go to a friends place in amsterdam. Out of boredom, I decided to play a game of spider solitair. I suck. A standard two colour game, and i win only 1 in 4 games. Is that normal? Or should you be able to win all games? Or can you just have bad luck, and find no way to win?

Funko
22-08-2005, 17:31:11
Yeah, that's about my average. I've never won a 4 suit game.

Gary
22-08-2005, 17:49:47
The 2 colour game is the only one worth trying. Your rate doesn't seem that bad. I find success seems to come in batches for some reason. Many wins on the trot followed by many nowhere games.

JM^3
22-08-2005, 18:17:01
spider solitaire I win about 1 in 5

I think that you can do better or worse, but I would be amazed if you did better then 50%

JM

JM^3
22-08-2005, 18:17:47
and I am refering to two color, have never won 4 suit

JM

Koshko
22-08-2005, 21:32:21
I went through a period when my net was fucking up for an extended period of time where I was playing that game a lot. I can't remember my winning rate for the 2 suits, but I have managed to won the 4 suit before.

Lurker the Second
23-08-2005, 05:13:04
Stats: 1239 wins, 3343 losses, win rate 27%, high score 1198, most wins 5, most losses 25.

I think the actual long term win rate is more like 30, though, b/c the 25 losses came in the first bunch of games when I didn't know the rules.

Greg W
23-08-2005, 05:28:33
Well, 25 out of 4500 odd is only slightly over 0.5%. So maybe 27.5% is more acurate. :p

Drekkus
23-08-2005, 10:21:51
Lurker's isn't all that good with statistics. :D

mr.G
23-08-2005, 10:23:12
damn you Drekkus
totally forgot about that game

Drekkus
23-08-2005, 10:30:37
I tried the other solitair once, but how does that differ, because I have no idea how to play that.

Lurker the Second
23-08-2005, 13:02:29
It was more than just the 25 losses in a row. I didn't know the bastard computer was keeping my stats until probably 1000 games, so I used to just quit without finishing a lot, which counts as losses. I think when I first saw the stats, it ws 24% and I had well over 1000 games played. Now it is at 27+, so the actual rate is better than that over the last several thousand games. I haven't played in probably a year, though.

Drekkus
23-08-2005, 13:46:21
So how many Games Behind are you then?

Gary
23-08-2005, 14:02:34
I found that 'quit and you lose' rule a bit of a pain. Decide you've had enough for the night and will close down the PC after you've finished the game you're on. Finish it, hit the wrong option and voila ! A new game waiting for you to quit on it ! :(

Drekkus
23-08-2005, 14:21:34
or maybe you shouldn't be so fixated on statistics. :lol:

Lurker the Second
23-08-2005, 14:59:30
It's the bastard computer that's fixated on statistics. :D

The Mad Monk
24-08-2005, 00:11:40
Poor spiders. :(

Drekkus
24-08-2005, 11:27:27
All the lonely spiders
where do they all belong

MoSe
24-08-2005, 11:31:40
here a spider is an open car

www.alfaspider.com "everything you want to know about spiders" - in dutch!
http://www.alfaspider.com/Links/foto%27s/Spider-v-final.jpg

Drekkus
24-08-2005, 11:50:31
If I ever buy a spider, I want one of these:

http://fiat-spider.homepage.dk/billeder/olelund-1.jpg

MoSe
24-08-2005, 11:53:24
except that that's a "duetto" not a "solitaire"

Drekkus
24-08-2005, 12:00:55
duetto? For two people? Unlike your alfa spider?

MoSe
24-08-2005, 12:04:39
unlike whose?

Drekkus
24-08-2005, 12:10:39
OGP, the one you posted above mine?

Gary
24-08-2005, 12:17:03
I take it, it has lots of leg room ?

Drekkus
24-08-2005, 12:20:46
:lol:

King_Ghidra
24-08-2005, 13:12:58
i'll take this spider over those shitty ones

http://www.times.co.nz/uploads/motoring/f430.jpg

MoSe
25-08-2005, 12:30:03
the one posted by Drekkus is not shitty, it's a true vintage classic model, an evergreen
and both can be still considered road-cars, not purely dick-waving extensions... ;)

Drekkus
25-08-2005, 12:34:05
:lol:

So is a spider called a spider in Italy as well. Or Spidarossarissimo or something? Italians aren't known for using english words, are they?

zmama
26-08-2005, 11:21:46
Play free cell instead

MoSe
26-08-2005, 14:16:29
Originally posted by Drekkus
So is a spider called a spider in Italy as well. Or Spidarossarissimo or something? Italians aren't known for using english words, are they?

On the contrary, we are one of the european nations most prone to linguistic colonisation from US/UK. Not like the protectionistic French for instance.
We adopt hundreds of english words in our everyday slang, especially in a computer/technical environment.
Sometimes we italianize them (adding the proper endings/declension/conjugation) sometimes we keep them as they are.

I posted a while ago that now everybody uses "confidente" taking it from english "I'm confident", not knowing that in italian the word would actually mean "confidant"...

You can happen to hear sentences where only the connections are in italian, but most words are in english.
Same with english acronyms: when I ask a colleague "when can you schedule that task" he naturally answers "tibidė" (read: teebeedee). Or āsap (read as a single word: aah-sapp).

When I was young, every kid knew what a spāider is, they were more in vogue too, but 99.99% had absolutely no fucking idea that it meant spider in english, that is, the arachnid! And when Spiderman comics came out, every italian kid wondered why with that name he went around with webs and not in a spider car....

Gary
26-08-2005, 14:22:54
:D

Drekkus
26-08-2005, 14:25:18
I was in Italy in the early 90's, and found hardly anyone spoke english.

What's teebeedee?

MoSe
26-08-2005, 14:40:48
We don't speak english, we use english words in italian, whithout often knowing what they originally mean in english

To
Be
Defined

Drekkus
26-08-2005, 14:57:30
Ah, ok. I didn't know that was a common english expression.

fp
26-08-2005, 16:36:03
It isn't.

Drekkus
26-08-2005, 16:37:24
:D

MoSe
26-08-2005, 16:56:46
well, it's one of the default options in several action planning/reporting SW I saw, and on many Meeting Report templates I d/l'ed

maybe it's common in a work management environment, and/or in the US...

MoSe
26-08-2005, 17:50:32
LOL, a coulleague just sent an email where in a single dozen-words sentence he inserted the words "pending" and "week" in english!
The first one could be justifiable as it's a typical term to describe a specific state of a workflow process, the correspondiong being "in sospeso" or "in lavorazione (=WIP)".

but he used "week" in the middle of italian talk just because the word is easier and faster to type than "settimana" !!!!

:lol:

Drekkus
26-08-2005, 17:52:28
Lazyness will overcome all language boundaries.

MoSe
26-08-2005, 17:56:06
da!

Drekkus
26-08-2005, 17:57:45
ja is easier :D

MoSe
26-08-2005, 18:06:38
nn, d is much closer to a on the kbd than j!!!!

:p :lol:

MoSe
26-08-2005, 18:08:18
nij could rival with no, tho, except there's 1 more letter :D

alsieboo
26-08-2005, 19:15:48
I prefer free cell

Qaj the Fuzzy Love Worm
26-08-2005, 20:50:06
Me too. Got a 70% win rate on Freecell!

Japher
26-08-2005, 21:03:09
damn all you, now you got me playing this damn game