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Diss
16-08-2005, 21:39:00
why would you drug and have sex with a woman over the age of 60?

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/4856517/detail.html

The Norks
16-08-2005, 21:47:49
or at all

Diss
16-08-2005, 22:04:58
I'd do Sophia Loren. :D

(without drugs of course)

Beta1
16-08-2005, 22:46:38
why does his victims age make a difference to the sentence?

The Norks
16-08-2005, 23:21:35
I think 5 years is a fucking joke whatever the age. rapists should be banged up for life.

Funko
17-08-2005, 09:05:59
You manage two awful puns in that sentence.

Diss
17-08-2005, 09:15:58
Originally posted by Beta1
why does his victims age make a difference to the sentence?

so raping a 5 year old is the same as raping a 25 year old?

I admit, the over 60 law is kind of weird. Someting put in to appeal to older voters I guess. Make it look like the politicians are protecting the old people.

Gary
17-08-2005, 09:20:59
I thought they were rather good puns :)

My hat is off to Norks

Beta1
17-08-2005, 09:56:04
Originally posted by Diss
so raping a 5 year old is the same as raping a 25 year old?

I admit, the over 60 law is kind of weird. Someting put in to appeal to older voters I guess. Make it look like the politicians are protecting the old people.

I was wondering why in this case raping a 55 year old was different to a 65 year old.

King_Ghidra
17-08-2005, 11:33:39
Originally posted by Diss
I admit, the over 60 law is kind of weird. Someting put in to appeal to older voters I guess. Make it look like the politicians are protecting the old people.

that would be a rather bizarre interpretation...

if i'm raped and the guy is put in prison for longer, i've still been raped, that's not protection...

unless you believe that tougher sentences discourage crime, but that doesn't seem true in the context of sex crimes


The question of whether it is worse to rape a child, an adult or an OAP is a rather horrible moral question of the kind with no satisfying answer. There's almost that implication that because the oap and the child are arguably more vulnerable that it is somehow worse for them. Certianly i think people have the idea that with a child there's the 'you're ruining the rest of their life' idea, but that by implication would mean raping an OAP is not as bad as raping an adult woman, which doesn't seem right either. All rape should be punished extremely harshly i think, and damn the subtle differences.

MDA
17-08-2005, 11:37:19
damn right.

Beta1
17-08-2005, 11:39:47
I think I agree with KG

Lock em up no matter what age the victim.

Doesn't five years seem a rather short minimum sentance?

Fistandantilus
17-08-2005, 12:37:12
Well, it's a minimum sentence... it will generally get more... what is the minimum sentence for murder?

No longer Trippin
17-08-2005, 23:07:25
Depends on how large your bank account is.

The Norks
18-08-2005, 01:58:56
only date rape and statutory rape should be 'grey' and down to the merits of the case I think. Lock the rest up and throw away the key.

JM^3
18-08-2005, 02:08:12
well, if you want to be very harsh to all rapers, I am all for that

the difference between kiddie rapers, and adult rapers exists....

it is that kiddie rapers, besides being messed up and needing to be punished for the rape, are also messed up because of going kids (which shows an additional thing mentally wrong)

JM

JM^3
18-08-2005, 02:13:38
I don't know how they define statutory rape (but I think it is having sex with a minor, with their 'consent')

I would probably make two levels, one would be for those younger then say an age (12?) and one for those older (but still below the age of consent)

the younger one I would consider the guys (and girls) to be messed up in the head, and to get a sentence for rape (none statutory) as well as they couldn't leave until counselors determined they would not be a danger for society (after they serve prison sentence maybe be sent to a mental institution?)

for the older one (where the victims are older then say 12) I would say a punishment would be in order, but probably no prison time... (depending on the case)

Jon miller

*End Is Forever*
18-08-2005, 12:36:49
That is how it works here, the punishment for having consensual sex with an underage girl increases dramatically if that girl is under thirteen.

King_Ghidra
18-08-2005, 13:16:45
consensual? surely the whole point of the statutory rape offence is that the victim is legally considered unable to provide their consent?

Nills Lagerbaak
18-08-2005, 14:06:31
Yes, but it's different from rape no? You get a much lesser charge for a 16 year old boy having "consentual" sex with a 15 year old girl, than if the 16 year old boy had forcibly "raped" the girl.

King_Ghidra
18-08-2005, 15:04:23
thats true, but i think it's a rather bizarre double standard in law

'you're under 16, you don't have the mental faculty to decide if you should be having sex or not, we're going to prosecute your attacker'
'but he's my boyfriend and i love him'
'Oh alright then, two weeks community service'

Nills Lagerbaak
18-08-2005, 15:33:41
Yeah, it's dumb as fuck... But I'm glad it exists. It's one of those cases where you need regulation, but have to apply common sense.

I think calling it stautory rape is misleading, it should be called having sex with a minor.