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The Norks
14-08-2005, 23:07:06
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/athletics/4150694.stm

the girl done good!

Provost Harrison
15-08-2005, 00:18:29
She could do with eating a bit more food IMO ;)

Greg W
15-08-2005, 01:14:35
The anorexic olympics?

Venom
15-08-2005, 01:38:23
She won't quit in those olympics.

RedFred
15-08-2005, 06:41:18
Nice race. The Romanian added some excitement by zipping to the front, falling back, recovering, etc.

Oerdin
15-08-2005, 07:15:06
Isn't she the one who took a shit in the road while running?

Funko
15-08-2005, 09:27:23
She's the world champion and world record holder in the marathon but will probably be remembered for quitting and shitting.

mr.G
15-08-2005, 09:37:40
Originally posted by Oerdin
Isn't she the one who took a shit in the road while running? ow the one hand in here trousers-shot.... love that

Nills Lagerbaak
15-08-2005, 09:48:05
Damn, I can't tell my horrific joke anymore....

What's the difference between Paula Radcliffe and Hitler?


Hitler tried to finish a race.

mr.G
15-08-2005, 09:49:38
diarrhoea?
http://www2.iaaf.org/Multimedia/Photo/wxc01/women/Radcliffe-mud.jpg

The Norks
15-08-2005, 13:22:13
Originally posted by Oerdin
Isn't she the one who took a shit in the road while running?

she what??
is that true??
:eek:

Funko
15-08-2005, 13:23:06
Yeah, in the London Marathon when she won it this year. How did you miss that story? :lol:

The Norks
15-08-2005, 13:24:00
I'm flabbergasted. did she shit literally while on the hoof? or did she squat? I need a link!

Beta1
15-08-2005, 13:25:22
run, squat, dump, run

And still won by a fair distance

Gary
15-08-2005, 13:25:23
I think she just held one knicker leg out.

Funko
15-08-2005, 13:25:36
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/athletics/4454315.stm

The Norks
15-08-2005, 13:28:39
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/athletics/4445391.stm

you have to admire a woman who can not only win the marathon, but nonchalantly coil one out in ten seconds. I think Norris Mc WHirter might consider that a record breaking shit as well.

I love this quote:

"It was a similar problem to Athens but there was no danger of me being glycogen-defeated again. I knew if I stopped I would be able to get rid of the cramp and concentrate properly again."

she's not a quitter, she's glycogen-defeated LOL. If it hadn't been for that pesky glycogen!

Funko
15-08-2005, 13:32:56
She probably shouldn't have started that race in Athens, but even if she hadn't been injured the heat would have made it tough and the air quality would have played havoc with her asthma but that's another story.

Zopperoni
15-08-2005, 13:33:14
Originally posted by The Norks
the girl done good!
Was that your only medal at the world championship?

Funko
15-08-2005, 13:34:54
We got bronze in both the mens and womens 4*100m but basically yes. Worst World Championships ever for British Athletics. Total disaster.

Zopperoni
15-08-2005, 13:41:47
I looked it up on the championships website, and yea, having your asses whooped in the medals table by Bahrain, Estonia, the Bahamas, and even the Netherlands is very embarrassing indeed.

Funko
15-08-2005, 13:44:34
Yep.

The BBC has a good table showing the decline:


BRITAIN'S WORLDS WOE
Points based on: gold=8, silver=7, down to 1 for 8th
1993: 95
1995: 78
1997: 76
1999: 66
2001: 54
2003: 46
2005: 29

The mens team got relegated from the elite division of the European Cup earlier this year as well. Although at the same time the Womens team got promoted again.

Drekkus
15-08-2005, 13:50:59
I think the british government is discouraging people who look 'slightly foreign' to be able to run fast.

Funko
15-08-2005, 13:51:53
They have to be able to run REALLY fast whilst dodging.

Drekkus
15-08-2005, 13:55:08
Undercover police officers could persuade them to run a little faster, yes.

Zopperoni
15-08-2005, 13:57:35
How about training police officers to run a bit faster so they can run in these championships?

Undercover of course.

Funko
15-08-2005, 13:58:54
I think we did, they won several medals for other countries but they didn't break their cover.

lightblue
15-08-2005, 14:05:35
Think the main issue is this whole "everyone is a winner" attitude they try to breed in schools. Noone can fail, it's deferred success. Noone can win a race, everyone gets a prize for taking part. Tis rubbish tbh.

In my school back home people had to repeat years if they failed, and we used to laugh at the gimps that finshed last in any of the runs we had to do. Fun times :) (as a sidenote, my class of about 320 or so produced 3 olympians and a couple of top150 tennis players).

Funko
15-08-2005, 14:08:39
And they say class sizes are large now!

Mostly they have got rid of the "everyone is a winner" attitude. The main problem is a social one, young people aren't doing as much sport as they used to and those that are aren't doing athletics.

Lurker the Second
15-08-2005, 14:10:53
Yeah, but they were still British olympians. :p

Funko
15-08-2005, 14:11:31
Interestingly after the Mens relegation they were talking to a few of the old athletes, and the new head of UK athletics about what was wrong and they were saying that they thought in some ways too many people were getting lottery funding, so lottery funding became the goal. Wheras in the days of Gunnell, Jackson and Christie etc. you had to be a medal winner or similar level to be able to make your living out of athletics. So even though the athletes could be full time, not part time, they didn't necessarily have the same hunger.

Now I don't think that's the fault of the lottery funding but it's clearly a concern.

And the standards of coaching have declined relative to the rest of the world too.

lightblue
15-08-2005, 14:18:30
Well it was a big school. It was split up in language sections, an international school.

I think another problem is the selling off of a lot of the playing fields of schools, and replaceing PE with rubbish stuff like citizenship. Personally i think every kid should do 2-4hrs of sport a week in school, with options for more.

Funko
15-08-2005, 14:20:05
320 in the year then not the class? :)

Zopperoni
15-08-2005, 14:27:00
Will holding the 2012 Olympics serve as a motivation, you suppose?

Funko
15-08-2005, 14:27:52
Hopefully.

Drekkus
15-08-2005, 14:30:52
Originally posted by Zopperoni
Will holding the 2012 Olympics serve as a motivation, you suppose? Olympic hosts always score high in the medals table.

Venom
15-08-2005, 14:32:46
This thread is gold. So maybe we should just give it to England so they feel better about themselves.

Zopperoni
15-08-2005, 14:33:19
Originally posted by Drekkus
Olympic hosts always score high in the medals table.
That theory needs to be disproven, go Britain :p

And if that fails, let's go Bahamas 2016!

Funko
15-08-2005, 14:36:25
:lol:

Beta1
15-08-2005, 14:52:28
Originally posted by lightblue
Well it was a big school. It was split up in language sections, an international school.

I think another problem is the selling off of a lot of the playing fields of schools, and replaceing PE with rubbish stuff like citizenship. Personally i think every kid should do 2-4hrs of sport a week in school, with options for more.

PE hasn't been replaced - curriculum requires minimum of 2 hours per week untill GCSE, citzenship is crap, but seperate to PE.

The lack of playing fields is a problem, getting kids interested in anything but football is an even bigger problem.

RedFred
15-08-2005, 15:28:05
Originally posted by Zopperoni
I looked it up on the championships website, and yea, having your asses whooped in the medals table by Bahrain, Estonia, the Bahamas, and even the Netherlands is very embarrassing indeed.

Bahrain doesn't have many atheletes, but the country is very rich. I think most of their Olympic athelete development program consists of luring fleet-footed Kenyans with enough money that they will (1) move to Bahrain and (2) convert to Islam.

Funko
15-08-2005, 15:28:33
Yep, exactly.

RedFred
15-08-2005, 15:31:39
Did anyone see that elbow a Russian female threw in the 1500 m final? Glad to see she got the DQ for it.

Zopperoni
15-08-2005, 15:39:54
Really? Good thing to see that the judges can make sensible calls.

I still cannot understand why they didn't DQ the Russian woman (yes, again) in the 400 meters hurdles final. She went around the hurdle with her forward leg instead of over it. It's a rule violation!

Venom
15-08-2005, 15:49:52
If Rocky IV taught me one thing, it was that the Russians are cheaters.

Zopperoni
15-08-2005, 16:02:13
On a totally non-related note:

Venom, go to FFZ and post your draft pick before I BAPAY you :p

Oerdin
15-08-2005, 17:40:37
Originally posted by Beta1
run, squat, dump, run

And still won by a fair distance

The whole thing took like 2 seconds. She even shits fast. :lol:

Provost Harrison
15-08-2005, 17:44:58
I have never liked sport and hated it at school. Never did see what all the excitement was about...

Oerdin
15-08-2005, 17:45:48
Sports are fun.

Provost Harrison
15-08-2005, 17:47:12
...and people who like sport really don't have an insight into why people like me can't stand them...

Gary
15-08-2005, 17:47:20
How could you not find it exciting at school ? All the girls would be running around in vest & knickers !

mr.G
15-08-2005, 18:14:00
yaaaaaaaaay bless that

Provost Harrison
15-08-2005, 18:17:00
I went to a boys school, silly :p

Venom
15-08-2005, 18:32:27
That explains so much. Well, not that much really. But it does explain the extensive gayness.

The Norks
16-08-2005, 00:31:43
I went to a girls school and believe me uniform grey gym knickers, thick black tights and leather faced lesbian PE teachers are not exciting.

RedFred
16-08-2005, 03:46:51
Damn. I wish I got to go to a girl's school.

Gary
16-08-2005, 08:13:40
You might yet

Funko
16-08-2005, 09:24:28
Originally posted by Provost Harrison
...and people who like sport really don't have an insight into why people like me can't stand them...

I would guess it is because you weren't very good at them and kids, boys especially, tend to value other kids for their sporting ability above brains so as you are going through your difficult enough teenage years the last thing you need is another thing to be insecure about.

So you end up hating sport because it makes you feel inadequate, which was doubly annoying because you were very clever and this wasn't respected by your peers. This probably carried on into later life because it's a lot easier to blame the concept of Sport in general than deal with your own issues.

Something like that?

mr.G
16-08-2005, 09:27:08
bull's eye

MoSe
16-08-2005, 10:08:46
Originally posted by Funko
Yep.

The BBC has a good table showing the decline:


BRITAIN'S WORLDS WOE
Points based on: gold=8, silver=7, down to 1 for 8th
1993: 95
1995: 78
1997: 76
1999: 66
2001: 54
2003: 46
2005: 29

The mens team got relegated from the elite division of the European Cup earlier this year as well. Although at the same time the Womens team got promoted again.
I found this
http://www.iaaf.org/documents/pdf/3365/AT-------.MD2.pdf
Interesting to note that in women's medal table Russia did beat USA, who dominated instead the men's medal table and thus the overall

I could not find a source publishing the points table/ranking tho.
Did that bbc article show Brit points only?

About medals, on 47 events = 141 medals, only 40 different countries grabbed at least one, and Italy had a very bad championship compared to previous editions, saved by a 20yo südtiroler getting 3rd in 50km men's walk race.
I heard that we got a little better (or less worse), ranking 22nd by points, but couldn't get any further detail...

MoSe
16-08-2005, 10:13:07
I'm afraid I'll have to work it out myself from there...
http://www.iaaf.org/WCH05/results/byEvent.html
:cute: :nervous:

SPORTS FORUM!

MoSe
16-08-2005, 14:40:18
:cute: I DID IT! :o

Results, tables and consideration will be posted in the sports forum, as soon as I can be bothered.

BTW, Funko reported that BBC attributes just 29 points to Britain this year.
From that link I collected:

pts
8 W Marathon win
6 M 4x100 relay 3rd
6 W 4x400 relay 3rd
5 M 4x400 relay 4th
4 M 400m 5th
4 W Eptathlon 5th
1 W Long Jump 8th

The above sum up to 34, not 29...

Maybe they thought the 4x400 Men were disqualified?

Drekkus
16-08-2005, 14:56:12
:lol: MoSe outwits the BBC.

Gary
16-08-2005, 15:20:25
Perhaps they'd lost interest by then

MoSe
16-08-2005, 15:38:02
"OK, we'll get out with what you got so far. It's not like any of our readers cares for the details and goes all the way to check'em, anyway..."

:lol:

Lazarus and the Gimp
16-08-2005, 17:20:06
Originally posted by Funko
I would guess it is because you weren't very good at them and kids, boys especially, tend to value other kids for their sporting ability above brains so as you are going through your difficult enough teenage years the last thing you need is another thing to be insecure about.

So you end up hating sport because it makes you feel inadequate, which was doubly annoying because you were very clever and this wasn't respected by your peers. This probably carried on into later life because it's a lot easier to blame the concept of Sport in general than deal with your own issues.


I was crap at sport as a kid. I have all the natural grace and poise of a cranefly in the throes of a an epileptic fit. Yet I like sports and I've always been into it.

Which means, if I'm following that theory correctly, I must be a moron.

Funko
16-08-2005, 17:31:55
I didn't say that theory had to apply to everyone...

Lazarus and the Gimp
16-08-2005, 17:35:20
Quitter. I wear my learning disabilities with pride, alongside my "Spastic at Sports" badges.

Drekkus
16-08-2005, 17:39:28
You should come to the football match in Rotterdam, Laz. :D

Provost Harrison
16-08-2005, 18:34:32
Originally posted by Funko
I would guess it is because you weren't very good at them and kids, boys especially, tend to value other kids for their sporting ability above brains so as you are going through your difficult enough teenage years the last thing you need is another thing to be insecure about.

So you end up hating sport because it makes you feel inadequate, which was doubly annoying because you were very clever and this wasn't respected by your peers. This probably carried on into later life because it's a lot easier to blame the concept of Sport in general than deal with your own issues.

Something like that?

There could be that. Or that I just don't like sport :p

The Norks
16-08-2005, 18:39:42
i didnt do any sport for years after leaving school, but I sporadically run or swim these days. I used to like all the arty sports at school like gym and dance, and i loved ballet, but I seemed to always end up with hitlerian sports teachers. Once at primary school I collapsed after doings laps of a field and was treated like a leper by the PE teacher (who put the teacher in The Grimleys to shame) and again in secondary school after circuits when I received a lecture about how i was unfit and was going to die young because i wasnt doing enough exercise. Years later I discovered I have exercise induced asthma- its that kind of thing that put me off sports. Fortunately, a great gym instructor worked with me this year to get me to realise I could do these things but with due care and attention to the asthma. Which was fantastically liberating, and now I really love it all again. I think bad experiences at school are responsible for a lot of inactive adults.

Provost Harrison
16-08-2005, 22:20:14
That probably figures too...I was thrown into that mould where I would like football or rugby or cross country running or else, and it just worked the opposite way for me...

Funko
17-08-2005, 09:08:36
Me too, PE teachers are basically nazis aren't they, but luckily I rediscovered sport after school. :beer:

Lazarus and the Gimp
17-08-2005, 20:03:55
I used to think my PE teacher was a nazi. Then, about 6 months after I left school I discovered he was badly asthmatic and in the grips of a severe chest infection which meant he was on oxygen and unable to sleep lying down.

Some people might have found new feelings of respect for him, but I just found it really funny.