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Funko
05-08-2005, 10:36:45
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4746787.stm

Scientists have found large quantities of cocaine residue in a river in northern Italy - suggesting consumption is much higher than previously thought.

They say they found the equivalent of 40,000 doses a day in the Po valley, home to about five million people.

According to official estimates, people living around the Po consume about 15,000 doses of cocaine a month.

But the research claims more than three times as much cocaine is used in the area.

Now I'm not sure about these figures, if it's three times as much then that means one of the days/months figures is wrong, either that or the days/months are right and the reporter is an idiot.

Spartak@work
05-08-2005, 10:38:43
I was just reading that report on the BBC

Funko
05-08-2005, 10:39:41
Guardian confirms that they expected 15,000 doses a month but got 40,000 a day.

http://education.guardian.co.uk/higher/research/story/0,9865,1542896,00.html

Which is amazing. And 90 times what people admitted to. :)

MoSe
05-08-2005, 11:05:24
And I never got beyond cannabis derivates...

BTW, how can they say it's 40,000 using 0.1g everyday, and not just 4,000 using 1g everyday?

I frankly have no idea about the doses weigths...

King_Ghidra
05-08-2005, 11:09:35
1g a day is a lot, but as the pattern of cocaine use is mainly a weekend focused thing, the 'per day' measure is quite misleading, i would say

still thinking of it as 4,000 people using 7g a week would be quite terrifying, not sure even kate moss gets through that much

Fistandantilus
05-08-2005, 11:09:38
Originally posted by MoSe
BTW, how can they say it's 40,000 using 0.1g everyday, and not just 4,000 using 1g everyday?

Spot on. I live there and they didn't ask me what I have for breakfast. That 1 Kg cocaine I put in the tea must screw their statistics.

MoSe
05-08-2005, 11:12:19
No Fist, cocaine doesn't mean "cocoa and caffeine"...

Drekkus
05-08-2005, 11:38:34
Hehehehehe, a po is an old dutch word for toilet, hehehehe.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
05-08-2005, 11:44:21
In german, it means ass.

"They say they found the equivalent of 40,000 doses a day in the Ass valley, home to about five million people."

Funko
05-08-2005, 12:20:12
The proper translation in English is Ass Crack.

Chris
05-08-2005, 12:23:03
I take it Italy isn't big on sewage treatment plants.

protein
05-08-2005, 12:38:07
Originally posted by King_Ghidra
1g a day is a lot, but as the pattern of cocaine use is mainly a weekend focused thing, the 'per day' measure is quite misleading, i would say

still thinking of it as 4,000 people using 7g a week would be quite terrifying, not sure even kate moss gets through that much
Some people get through 7 grams in a day. That's the top end of the scale though. John Belushi area.

Danniella Westbrook did 15 grams a week I think.

I just can't fathom how horrible you'd feel after that.

Funko
05-08-2005, 12:39:09
You'd only feel bad if you stopped?

Chris
05-08-2005, 12:40:14
Dead would appear to be bad.

protein
05-08-2005, 12:46:18
Originally posted by Funko
You'd only feel bad if you stopped?
I don't think so. If you do too much cocaine it's not enjoyable. Not to me anyway - feeling like you are about to step out of a plane at 30,000 feet and feel all snotty and dehydrated and twisted. The most annoying thing is that you keep doing it to put that bit off. Ten minute cycles of feeling relief and happily excited and then nervous and needy and tense.

Yuck.

I'd rather have a wicked esspresso or two nowerdays.

Nills Lagerbaak
05-08-2005, 15:00:56
I have some fantastic MDMA crystal :D

MDA
05-08-2005, 15:08:19
kiss your brain chemistry goodbye - it'll be back in about six months :p

Funko
05-08-2005, 15:08:58
Says the man named after MDA... ;)

Nills Lagerbaak
05-08-2005, 15:17:34
Yes, these days its a half yearly pursuit!

Funko
05-08-2005, 15:18:13
Half a year on, half a year off.

Nills Lagerbaak
05-08-2005, 15:18:17
Originally posted by protein
I don't think so. If you do too much cocaine it's not enjoyable. Not to me anyway - feeling like you are about to step out of a plane at 30,000 feet and feel all snotty and dehydrated and twisted. The most annoying thing is that you keep doing it to put that bit off. Ten minute cycles of feeling relief and happily excited and then nervous and needy and tense.

Yuck.

I'd rather have a wicked esspresso or two nowerdays.


Two nowerdays?! I've never even taken one.

Gary
05-08-2005, 15:31:01
It probably comes from a drug bust, and the perp flushed it down the Po.

Oerdin
06-08-2005, 01:19:26
Originally posted by Funko

Which is amazing. And 90 times what people admitted to. :)

Not amazing at all. Supposedly the 15k figure came from walking up to people on the street and asking if they use cocaine. Many people will naturally lie in such a situation.

MoSe
08-08-2005, 09:12:45
Originally posted by Gary
It probably comes from a drug bust, and the perp flushed it down the Po.

I had thought of it too, but the chemical sought for is a cocaine METABOLITE, benzoylglensomething.
They should've assumed it and urinated it, before dumping it...

No longer Trippin
08-08-2005, 18:42:54
Quite a few flaws in the study. They tabbed the doses at 100 mg a day. That isn't much at all unless it is quite pure, even then, anyone who's doing coke is still going to wind up doing more than 1/10th a gram a day more than likely (try 1 - 5 grams). They also mentioned the street value would be 150 million at $100 a gram which they labeled at US street value. You can get twice that much for 100 and still be getting ripped off. Of course it gives the police more cash to tackle the larger than true drug problem.

protein
08-08-2005, 19:07:12
Originally posted by Gary
It probably comes from a drug bust, and the pope flushed it down the Po.
http://breakingnewsblog.com/pope/wp-content/pope-benedict%20XVI.jpg
I'm off my motherloving tits!

Provost Harrison
08-08-2005, 19:27:57
Those words and that picture in combination are rather disturbing :lol:

Seamus
08-08-2005, 20:48:20
I curious how a few drug dealers flushing their stash would change this reading. Maybe the cops were banging at the door so the drug dealer flushed it down the toilet to get ride of it then the readings for way up giving false numbers.

Provost Harrison
08-08-2005, 21:00:41
Because they took samples from the river and must have performed some sort of estimate...how accurate it could possibly be is another question...

Koshko
09-08-2005, 03:14:37
That's actually probably only about 200 hardcore cokeheads accounting for that.

Funko
09-08-2005, 09:58:48
Originally posted by Seamus
I curious how a few drug dealers flushing their stash would change this reading. Maybe the cops were banging at the door so the drug dealer flushed it down the toilet to get ride of it then the readings for way up giving false numbers.

They were measuring for the chemical that cocaine becomes when it's been metabolized by the human body, so pure cocaine flushed wouldn't skew the ratings at all.

MoSe
09-08-2005, 12:10:39
now we could claim that we end in ICU because of ICU! :D

Venom
09-08-2005, 13:12:07
So can you get high from swimming in the river?

Funko
09-08-2005, 13:13:30
You can drink peoples piss with coke residue...

King_Ghidra
09-08-2005, 13:19:46
that's pretty much a regular weekend then

Venom
09-08-2005, 13:25:45
Yeah. I mean, of course I can drink piss.

Funko
09-08-2005, 13:25:53
Normally referred to as a JD and coke.

Venom
09-08-2005, 13:33:18
That's dog piss.

Funko
09-08-2005, 13:34:26
And Coke