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Drekkus
20-07-2005, 14:01:35
OK, you english and germans are making a mess of this, too many meanings for the same word. So from now on we're going to use the dutch versions of cake and pie.

Cake:
http://home.wanadoo.nl/suyckerbol/fijnecake.gif
Some dryish stuff that you prepare in the oven.

Taart:
http://www.midgetgolfbaan.nl/taart_clown.jpg
Pie with whipped cream and all sorts of stuff.

Case closed.

Koyaanisqatsi
20-07-2005, 14:02:32
That's not cake, that's bread.

protein
20-07-2005, 14:03:18
Don't search for "pie" on google.

Yeurgh.

Nills Lagerbaak
20-07-2005, 14:03:26
OK, what's a pudding then?

Venom
20-07-2005, 14:04:36
The bottom one is a cake.

Koyaanisqatsi
20-07-2005, 14:05:06
Originally posted by protein
Don't search for "pie" on google.

Yeurgh.
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protein
20-07-2005, 14:05:27
That pie is a cake.

This is pie

http://www.semihomemade.com/webmagazine/issuenov2004/articles/images/pecan-pie.jpg

This is cake

http://www.watergardenhotel.com/images/wedding-cake-l.jpg

protein
20-07-2005, 14:07:15
Pie you have with icecream or custard or whatever. Cake you have served dry on a paper towel.

Tizzy
20-07-2005, 14:08:19
This is a pie

protein
20-07-2005, 14:09:06
That's served with baked beans on the top and a can of Irn Bru.

Koyaanisqatsi
20-07-2005, 14:10:41
ugh

Drekkus
20-07-2005, 14:11:11
See, you guys have it all mixed up. For international use, the dutch way should be the standard.

Venom
20-07-2005, 14:15:10
Pie is a crust filled with tasty treats (though tasty is relative when discussing english pies). Cakes are layers of batter covered with icing and possible other sweet things. Ultimate cakes are ice cream cakes that combine a tradition cake with a layer of ice cream ALREADY INSIDE THE CAKE! Is that not the greatest thing ever?

Nills Lagerbaak
20-07-2005, 14:16:08
Originally posted by protein
That pie is a cake.

This is pie

http://www.semihomemade.com/webmagazine/issuenov2004/articles/images/pecan-pie.jpg

This is cake

http://www.watergardenhotel.com/images/wedding-cake-l.jpg



This is a cake

Koyaanisqatsi
20-07-2005, 14:16:33
No, it's not the greatest...Boston Creme Pie is. And Boston Creme Pie is actually cake.

Venom
20-07-2005, 14:19:51
You're an idiot who was better under his old name. no one cares what you say.

Koyaanisqatsi
20-07-2005, 14:22:04
Yay! I've been accepted!

Venom
20-07-2005, 14:34:25
Nope. You're still trying to hard to be accepted.

Koyaanisqatsi
20-07-2005, 14:36:07
Damn you and your reindeer games!

Venom
20-07-2005, 14:37:41
Save something as equally important as Christmas and then maybe...MAYBE...you'll be accepted despite all your gag inducing flaws.

Koyaanisqatsi
20-07-2005, 14:41:17
Ok, but I might need some assistance from a Bumble.

Venom
20-07-2005, 14:46:12
You'll get nothing and like it.

MoSe
20-07-2005, 14:48:19
OK, let me tackle this.


Torta = cake

crostata = a tart, a sweet pie, a lower pastry layer topped/filled with fruit or jam, typical is apricots, prunes, cherries, blueberries

BUT
a salty pie, mostly vegetables-based, with minor inclusions of meats (usually diced bacon), cheeses, eggs, is called "torta" again, rather than crostata. For instance you have a "torta di carciofi" (artichokes), a "torta di spinaci", a mixed "Torta Pasqualina" (easter salty pie), and many other.
I reckon this is what french would call a quiche.

Fist is welcome to mock me about any absurdity I might have just said.

and finally I found out something I didn't know:
what's a patty?
and a patty-cake???
:confused:

Funko
20-07-2005, 14:48:32
This is a pie:

http://www.schwartz.co.uk/assets/Pork-pieXS_GIF.gif

Koyaanisqatsi
20-07-2005, 14:48:54
You'll get nothing and like it.
Does that mean if I fall I can bounce on you?

Drekkus
20-07-2005, 14:50:42
you people do not understand. I just made it very clear what is what, so no more discussion about this.

Koyaanisqatsi
20-07-2005, 14:52:20
Originally posted by Funko
This is a pie:

http://www.schwartz.co.uk/assets/Pork-pieXS_GIF.gif
Hmm. A pie of cake proportions. That has potential, if we lose the pork part.

MoSe
20-07-2005, 14:55:17
what about a plumcake?

Greg W
20-07-2005, 14:55:48
Drekkus: Yeah, but you were wrong.

MoSe
20-07-2005, 14:57:53
he was ducth-right

Drekkus
20-07-2005, 15:03:22
Originally posted by Greg W
Drekkus: Yeah, but you were wrong. This isn't about right or wrong, this is about me deciding how it is.

Greg W
20-07-2005, 15:04:52
And deciding wrong.

Lurker the Second
20-07-2005, 15:06:31
Originally posted by Drekkus
See, you guys have it all mixed up. For international use, the dutch way should be the standard.

In advanced society, the dutch way should be, and generally is, illegal.

Drekkus
20-07-2005, 15:10:23
Originally posted by Greg W
And deciding wrong. I imposed the dutch standard, the dutch standard isn't wrong, it's different, but far more clear on what is what, and therefor far more useful.

Venom
20-07-2005, 15:15:15
The Dutch have no standards.

Greg W
20-07-2005, 15:17:45
And the second of your pics could just be cake with icing on it. Icing doesn't turn a cake into a pie.

Lurker the Second
20-07-2005, 15:19:38
Originally posted by Venom
The Dutch have no standards.

Almost but not quite true. Primordial ooze is a standard. A low one, but a standard nonetheless.

The Norks
20-07-2005, 15:20:55
Pie= enclosed pastry good, ie has a lid and contains meat or fruit goodness
Tart/flan=pastry bottom but no top, can be sweet or savoury
cake= related to the confectionery pie family, but only loosely, must be sweet. Except beefcake, but thats something else entirely. :D

The Norks
20-07-2005, 15:22:54
and greg, pudding is just a general name in this country for any dessert, as well as also meaning steamed puddings like spotted dick or steak and kidney pudding- confusing innit? :)

Lurker the Second
20-07-2005, 15:23:24
Exactly, Norks, exactly.

Greg W
20-07-2005, 15:24:40
Confusing doesn't even begin to describe it...

Funko
20-07-2005, 15:24:41
You can also have steak and kidney pudding (http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/database/steakandkidneypuddin_4410.shtml). Which is steak and kidney pie.

Drekkus
20-07-2005, 15:24:47
you eat spotted dick?

The Norks
20-07-2005, 15:28:45
Originally posted by Funko
You can also have steak and kidney pudding (http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/database/steakandkidneypuddin_4410.shtml). Which is steak and kidney pie.

Ha! Funko is WRONG day!

the pudding is steamed or boiled and uses a suet crust, whereas the pie is cooked in a conventional oven. The pudding is far lardier, and therefore better all round.

Venom
20-07-2005, 15:29:33
See there Drekkus. Your hero is wrong.

The Norks
20-07-2005, 15:30:02
Originally posted by Drekkus
you eat spotted dick?

can't beat munching on a spotted dick with custard :D

Drekkus
20-07-2005, 15:32:20
Originally posted by Venom
See there Drekkus. Your hero is wrong. He'll probably come around with some in the middle theory that states they are both a bit right.

Drekkus
20-07-2005, 15:33:14
Originally posted by The Norks
can't beat munching on a spotted dick with custard :D I'd say you should be carefull with that.

Venom
20-07-2005, 15:37:19
Originally posted by Drekkus
He'll probably come around with some in the middle theory that states they are both a bit right.

Blind hero worship.

Nills Lagerbaak
20-07-2005, 15:41:54
Originally posted by The Norks
can't beat munching on a spotted dick with custard :D

Or chowing down on a hairy fish pie.


Only the best for the cap'ns table.

Greg W
20-07-2005, 15:46:04
Or chowing down on a bearded clam.

paiktis22
20-07-2005, 15:48:34
pie is not dry

paiktis22
20-07-2005, 15:49:49
I hope that solves everything.

Drekkus
20-07-2005, 15:50:20
the problem was already solved.

paiktis22
20-07-2005, 15:51:29
But never this decisively.

protein
20-07-2005, 15:52:55
Now that I think of it there are some confusing crossovers.

Cheesecake is quite pie-like and what would a victoria sponge count as? It's a kind of half pie pastry/half sponge hybrid.

Drekkus
20-07-2005, 15:53:06
Post #1 in this thread massively decisivley decides the debate.

Funko
20-07-2005, 16:04:25
Originally posted by The Norks
Ha! Funko is WRONG day!

the pudding is steamed or boiled and uses a suet crust, whereas the pie is cooked in a conventional oven. The pudding is far lardier, and therefore better all round.

Whatever, I'm just trying to portray the full complexity of the issue.

Drekkus
20-07-2005, 16:15:32
verliezer

Funko
20-07-2005, 16:16:39
clitface

Greg W
20-07-2005, 16:17:46
Originally posted by Drekkus
Post #1 in this thread massively decisivley decides the debate. That decided about as much as two flies climbing a wall.

Funko
20-07-2005, 16:18:51
You mean as much as two flies climbing a wall on the other side of the fence?

Drekkus
20-07-2005, 16:19:46
Either agree on the suggestions made, or keep on fighting forever. The time for peace is now.

Venom
20-07-2005, 16:19:51
clitface :lol:

Drekkus
20-07-2005, 16:21:04
He should use the original 'klit hoofd'.

Venom
20-07-2005, 16:22:53
He made it international, not stupid low standard dutch. Like your retarded ass pie rules.

Funko
20-07-2005, 16:27:21
Are you done sucking my dick and licking my balls yet you slack jawed faggot?

Greg W
20-07-2005, 16:31:24
God, now there was an image that I really didn't need...

The Norks
20-07-2005, 16:31:54
Originally posted by Venom
He made it international, not stupid low standard dutch. Like your retarded ass pie rules.

is that retarded ass pie rules
or
retarded ass pie rules?

:confused:

Funko
20-07-2005, 16:32:38
or retarded ass pie rules
or retarded ass pie rules
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or retarded ass pie rules
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or retarded ass pie rules
or retarded ass pie rules

The Norks
20-07-2005, 16:32:40
that had spaces in it

retarded ass
or ass pie

was my question

The Norks
20-07-2005, 16:33:18
Originally posted by Funko
Whatever, I'm just trying to portray the full complexity of the issue.

portraying it WRONGLY :D

Funko
20-07-2005, 16:33:24
or retarded ass pie

Funko
20-07-2005, 16:34:02
Originally posted by The Norks
portraying it WRONGLY :D

They are probably just as shit as each other.

Funko
20-07-2005, 16:35:03
Anyway I was asked to spread misinformation. I can't win can I.

The Norks
20-07-2005, 16:35:25
Originally posted by protein
Now that I think of it there are some confusing crossovers.

Cheesecake is quite pie-like and what would a victoria sponge count as? It's a kind of half pie pastry/half sponge hybrid.

victoria sponge is a cake...are you thinking of bakewell tart (which is a tart)?

cheesecake is to cake and pie as platypus is to mammal and amphibian

Gary
20-07-2005, 16:37:10
Agree ? Never !

Pie

Correctly

1. A baked food composed of a pastry shell and filling, and usually covered with a pastry crust.

http://www.myhomecooking.net/apple-pie/apple-pie-2_small.jpg


Erroneously as it's obviously a flan

2. A layer cake having cream, custard, or jelly filling.

http://www.leeleescreations.shoppingcartsplus.com/i/Malt%20Shop/tn_cherrypiedeb.jpg




Cake

Clearly

1. A sweet baked food made of flour, liquid, eggs, and other ingredients, such as raising agents and flavourings.

http://www.laktel.com/gift/cakes/GC/full/GCB-007_BlackForestCake.jpg http://www3.telus.net/~cblake1/reception/Cake.jpg http://www.leisure-cat.com/images/sponge%20cake.jpg


Less obviously

2. A flat rounded mass of dough or batter, such as a pancake that is baked or fried.

http://www.hollyeats.com/images/Chicago/Pamelas-Pancakes.jpg


Unbelievably, and more applicable to fish cakes and the like.

3. A flat rounded mass of hashed or chopped food that is baked or fried; a patty.

http://www.network-operations.freeserve.co.uk/fishcake/images/fishcake.gif



Now that's definitive.

The Norks
20-07-2005, 16:37:18
Originally posted by Funko
They are probably just as shit as each other.

you dont like steak and kidney pastries?
whats wrong with you man?!!

Funko
20-07-2005, 16:37:53
Pie = Bad

Did you miss the whole cake vs pie thread? :confused:

The Norks
20-07-2005, 16:39:52
pie won!

Funko
20-07-2005, 16:44:59
Yeah, because you lot are weirdos.

paiktis22
20-07-2005, 16:47:40
@Gary
cake is wrong. I'm sorry.

protein
20-07-2005, 16:49:16
You don't eat anything without a backbone and we're the weirdos?

paiktis22
20-07-2005, 16:49:53
actually this is called tourta and it means a cake.
the cake is then what drekkus called his dutch cake
and a pie is a pita but not the bread pita (amylum composed) but the other pitta which is the pie

Funko
20-07-2005, 16:50:54
That's not true I'll eat vegetables and fruits and nuts etc.

I think I refined my definition to be nothing with more legs than a cow.

protein
20-07-2005, 16:50:59
Does a cake taste better if it is triangular?

Funko
20-07-2005, 16:51:43
Stupid question, there's no other possible way to slice a cake.

protein
20-07-2005, 16:51:51
You need to eat more centpedes.

Funko
20-07-2005, 16:52:16
Do they feed on raw sewage like prawns?

protein
20-07-2005, 16:52:31
Originally posted by Funko
Stupid question, there's no other possible way to slice a cake.
Unless it is a rectangular or nevelty cake or a cupcake.

protein
20-07-2005, 16:53:16
Then I suppose you'd want the least sickly icing to edible sponge ratio...

protein
20-07-2005, 16:53:39
Hmm.

Need data.

Must buy cake...

Funko
20-07-2005, 16:54:22
Originally posted by protein
Unless it is a rectangular or nevelty cake or a cupcake.

You are a crazy man.

Funko
20-07-2005, 16:54:57
Originally posted by protein
Then I suppose you'd want the least sickly icing to edible sponge ratio...

Yeah, I'm not a big fan of icing.


Or cake/sweet things in general really.

Venom
20-07-2005, 17:24:16
That's suprising. Considering your tremendous love of musical theater and overall gayness.

The Norks
20-07-2005, 17:44:20
Originally posted by protein
You don't eat anything without a backbone and we're the weirdos?

I'm with him on that (except for squid and scallops)

MoSe
20-07-2005, 19:07:40
I eat raw squids
with plumcake